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Constantly runs “out of space” even though I have over 100GB of free space, files offloaded to iCloud radonmly don’t open or download when clicked but load fine on other machines, Time Machine has stopped working, High Sierra updates no longer work because it’s on an APFS Fusion Drive and apps no longer update because they require a newer version of High Sierra. So I’m in limbo.

It’s a mess. I had been planning to just wipe the machine and start over but I thought I’d wait for a version of High Sierra that supports APFS Fusion Drives as it was supposed to be but eventually I waited so long that it was announced that Mojave would support it.

Can we assume you are aware of the fact that High Sierra DOES NOT SUPPORT APFS on Fusion drives so it would really be interesting to find out how you managed to format a Fusion drive APFS since it doesn’t work and never has. Nor does High Sierra support APFS for Time Machine and never has. Time Machine can backup an APFS volume but it cannot use an APFS volume as the destination. APFS is coming for Fusion drives and Time Machine with Mojave. I think you are majorly confused here. Meanwhile High sierra runs flawlessly for millions and millions of people.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208018

https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/disks-you-can-use-with-time-machine-mh15139/10.13/mac/10.13
 
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Can we assume you are aware of the fact that High Sierra DOES NOT SUPPORT APFS on Fusion drives so it would really be interesting to find out how you managed to format a Fusion drive APFS since it doesn’t work and never has. Nor does High Sierra support APFS for Time Machine and never has. Time Machine can backup an APFS volume but it cannot use an APFS volume as the destination. APFS is coming for Fusion drives and Time Machine with Mojave. I think you are majorly confused here. Meanwhile High sierra runs flawlessly for millions and millions of people.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208018

https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/disks-you-can-use-with-time-machine-mh15139/10.13/mac/10.13

Early beta releases of High Sierra converted Fusion Drives to APFS, only to drop support later. If your drive was converted in this way you were stuck with an APFS Fusion Drive (which, of course, is unsupported and very buggy in 10.13) in later betas and the final release unless you completely reformatted your drive back to HFS+.
 
Can we assume you are aware of the fact that High Sierra DOES NOT SUPPORT APFS on Fusion drives so it would really be interesting to find out how you managed to format a Fusion drive APFS since it doesn’t work and never has. Nor does High Sierra support APFS for Time Machine and never has. Time Machine can backup an APFS volume but it cannot use an APFS volume as the destination. APFS is coming for Fusion drives and Time Machine with Mojave. I think you are majorly confused here. Meanwhile High sierra runs flawlessly for millions and millions of people.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208018

https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/disks-you-can-use-with-time-machine-mh15139/10.13/mac/10.13

Of course I’m aware. High Sierra did in fact support APFS on Fusion Drives when it was announced and in the early betas. It was near its public release that support was pulled.

If you read my post carefully, I’m neither complaining nor am I confused. I said I lived with the bugs waiting for official support and I eventually waited long enough for Mojave to be announced with support for APFS on Fusion Drives. I said that I’d rather move to Mojave with this support sooner and live with any of Mojave’s bugs than to continue living with the significant bugs I’ve dealt with High Sierra which does not support APFS on Fusion Drives.
 
So Mojave Public Beta doesn’t seem to support APFS on Fusion Drives yet. That’s the issue I have on High Sierra and if you’re having that problem on the Mojave Public Beta, then it’s still not supported.

Did Mojave offer to convert your Fusion Drive to APFS or did you do it manually?
I did not have the option. It automatically converted to APFS in the background during the update. Now, Mojave does state it now officially supports fusion drives with APFS. But it looks like it still has this issue where it runs out of space around 100gb. Of course we are still on Beta, so I am hoping this is resolved by official release. I am running public beta, so a new one should probably be out tomorrow. I will see if they might of fixed it.
 
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I did not have the option. It automatically converted to APFS in the background during the update. Now, Mojave does state it now officially supports fusion drives with APFS. But it looks like it still has this issue where it runs out of space around 100gb. Of course we are still on Beta, so I am hoping this is resolved by official release. I am running public beta, so a new one should probably be out tomorrow. I will see if they might of fixed it.

Thanks for the clarification. I’m looking forward to installing Mojave. I believe that I’ve got some data on the SSD portion of the fusion drive that isn’t being read. Hopefully that part of the drive becomes functional again with Mojave. Otherwise, I have an old Time Machine backup made just prior to the High Sierra update that converted my drive to APFS.

If you have a chance, please follow up here if the latest beta fixes your 100GB issue.
 
It looks horrible. Too dark.

But, let those who like it have it. At least Apple is giving you a choice, they do not force you to use it.

I wish they gave us same choice when they released the disgrace which was Yosemite. But no...
Yosemite was the prototype release of the modern theme was not the best release by a long shot but at least it still had the old Disk Utility which I much preferred. It is one of the reasons I retain a small Mavericks partition.
 
It’s almost here! Mojave GM is not far away! I believe it will be the most beautiful version of macOS since Snow Leopard.
 
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Yosemite was the prototype release of the modern theme was not the best release by a long shot but at least it still had the old Disk Utility which I much preferred. It is one of the reasons I retain a small Mavericks partition.


Oh look! It's another me!

lol, jk...

Or maybe not?

Let's see:
Not a fan of 10.10 and later UI design, just like me.
Has a partition with Mavericks installed, just like me.
Has the same profile picture, just like me.

This is suspicious. :)
 
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anyone see if pressure sensitivity with either wacom or astropad + apple pencil function yet? That's a deal breaker for me as an artist.
 
Anyone happen to have this running on a 2018 MbP? Im wondering if the issues have been resolved and if you are able to restore to High Sierra if needed.
 
Is it just me, or is anyone having this issue too? Ever since the first release, I see lines across certain boxes, such as the search box and others. I have submitted feedback to Apple in this respect, but it seems that is another (useless) thing they put in there. Not a single response on this issue!

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Can anyone confirm they're able to run VM's in Oracle's Virtualbox on this beta version? Thank you.

Not "out of the box" I had to install a newer version and then approve it in the System Settings Security Panel. I have version
5.2.16 r123759 (Qt5.6.3) Once I got it working all my VMs worked. I have Linux and Windows VMs.
 
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please define "so buggy".

  • DisplayServer crashing til .2
  • DisplayServer memory leaks til .3
  • Icon server memory leak when using custom folder icons on an APFS drive til .3
  • APFS slow performance on non-Apple drives
  • APFS constantly kernel panic'in on professional RAID arrays
  • Older Macs with nVidia graphics are slow AF
  • Laggy UI after a day or so, unless you own a Vega based GPU (iMac Pro)
  • Shutdown process does not display verbose messages
  • and so on and so on...
 
Whoa, this build runs significantly and noticeably faster for me on my 2013 MBP. Like new computer crazy fast.

Wi-Fi calling still doesn't work, however.

It seems to run zippier on my Mac Pro as well, especially Safari. Before it seemed a little slower than High Sierra. Now it seems to work just as well.
 
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Meanwhile High sierra runs flawlessly for millions and millions of people.

I agree. My friends don't have major issues. But they aren't pushing their machines to the limit by using many many applications time which their money depends on. HS is capable of running Mail and Safari at the same time without any side effects. Definitely. Beyond this point "flawless" loses the meaning.
 
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