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Apple Seeds Sixth Beta of macOS Sierra 10.12.4 to Developers [Update: Public Beta Available Too]

CmdrLaForge said:
What I am wondering if that has a negative impact on older apps that still work e.g. Aperture.
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It mainly affects apps that look for files in certain locations and referencing it in case "insensitive" way (e.g., "/library/system/..." instead of "/Library/System/...").
 
nutmac said:
It mainly affects apps that look for files in certain locations and referencing it in case "insensitive" way (e.g., "/library/system/..." instead of "/Library/System/...").
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If that happens, you could fix that with a soft-link (ln -s)
 
C DM said:
What are people expecting from beta updates for the same version, something new in each beta? That's not really how that works.
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I think a lot of "beta testers" aren't really testing anything. They just can't wait for updates so they pay the $100 a year to get new features 1st. Same with public beta testers. I'd be surprised if most even report bugs. They're in it for the yeehaa new features. The whole point of beta releases is to fix features, new or old. Not to add a new feature with every release.
 
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Skoal said:
I think a lot of "beta testers" aren't really testing anything. They just can't wait for updates so they pay the $100 a year to get new features 1st. Same with public beta testers. I'd be surprised if most even report bugs. They're in it for the yeehaa new features. The whole point of beta releases is to fix features, new or old. Not to add a new feature with every release.
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Yeah, just using the OS and reporting bugs should be enough for a PB tester... :eek:
 
Skoal said:
I think a lot of "beta testers" aren't really testing anything. They just can't wait for updates so they pay the $100 a year to get new features 1st. Same with public beta testers. I'd be surprised if most even report bugs. They're in it for the yeehaa new features. The whole point of beta releases is to fix features, new or old. Not to add a new feature with every release.
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Yeah kinda true.
Besides tends to kill your battery - this is why I jumped off the beta programs.
 
Skoal said:
I think a lot of "beta testers" aren't really testing anything. They just can't wait for updates so they pay the $100 a year to get new features 1st. Same with public beta testers. I'd be surprised if most even report bugs. They're in it for the yeehaa new features. The whole point of beta releases is to fix features, new or old. Not to add a new feature with every release.
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Is that so wrong? You seem to have a bee in your bonnet about it.
 
Parsec said:
If that happens, you could fix that with a soft-link (ln -s)
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"/Library/System/..." was merely an example. Many apps hardcode many file paths that are difficult for Apple to account for.

I suspect at WWDC, Apple will announce (1) APFS becoming default on 10.13, (2) app developers will scramble to update their apps to make sure they work fine with case insensitive file system, (3) Apple will provide a "compatibility box" of some sort (lookup table for popular paths) for major incompatible apps as a last resort if #2 isn't progressing quick enough.
 
This build seems to have remedied a number of problems for me, including Bluetooth connection problems upon start-up (which would require a restart) and some intermittently glitchy graphics on my 5K iMac. Also, after many months of glacial performance with iTunes (including ten seconds of beachball just to switch from the Store to my library), the program seems to at least be working normally again. Thumbs up to this build so far.
 
Milltek said:
Has anyone tried APFS yet? Is it any faster than previous file system?
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Yes, and yes! I have my home dir on apfs so all but the OS runs off it. Only app that doesn't work is Photoshop (with that I ditched Photoshop for affinity photo) when installing or copying apps I sometimes wait for the file transfer pop-up in vain; it's instant. More free space too, and copying large directories is megafast. I'm very, very impreaaed. I'm on a 2012 MBP with 3rd party SSD.

I had some internet issues on the previous beta, hoping that'll be fixed now too.
 
SvP said:
Yes, and yes! I have my home dir on apfs so all but the OS runs off it. Only app that doesn't work is Photoshop (with that I ditched Photoshop for affinity photo) when installing or copying apps I sometimes wait for the file transfer pop-up in vain; it's instant. More free space too, and copying large directories is megafast. I'm very, very impreaaed. I'm on a 2012 MBP with 3rd party SSD.

I had some internet issues on the previous beta, hoping that'll be fixed now too.
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Would it be possible to list down the steps and challenges of migrating the Home Directory to AFPS? Is the setup done on single SSD or you've got 2 SSDs. Since I recall AFPS cannot boot MacOS currently. [Sorry for noob questions]
 
sumgro said:
Would it be possible to list down the steps and challenges of migrating the Home Directory to AFPS? Is the setup done on single SSD or you've got 2 SSDs. Since I recall AFPS cannot boot MacOS currently. [Sorry for noob questions]
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I partitioned the single, 1 TB SSD in two partitions (200 GB for the suysten, 800 GB for the data partition),
Converted one partition into an apfs partition. (handy guide: https://www.howtogeek.com/272741/how-to-format-a-drive-with-the-apfs-file-system-on-macos-sierra/ )
Copy over your home directory to the apfs partition, and change the location in advanced options under settings -> users -> you.

That's it. It could cost you your data though, so be careful.
 
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Skoal said:
I think a lot of "beta testers" aren't really testing anything. They just can't wait for updates so they pay the $100 a year to get new features 1st. Same with public beta testers. I'd be surprised if most even report bugs. They're in it for the yeehaa new features. The whole point of beta releases is to fix features, new or old. Not to add a new feature with every release.
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Apple collects automated data from many of these people I'm sure; e.g. spotting where crashing occurs often. It's not all wasted.
 
Sierra is a fish in Spanish, in English = sawfish
also Sierra in Spanish is a tool use for cutting wood or trees, in English = saw or/and chainsaw
Sierra is a mountain
Sierra is also a Mac OS
 
...And I'm hopping, wishing, praying etc for a totally new, renewed, remodeled etc mac system cause, macOS Sierra, El Capitan, Yosemite, as we say in Brazil, have given what they had to give already!
 
With Sierra 10.12.3, when I enter last in Terminal, every startup/shutdown has been logged as a crash. It's the same on both my Air and iMac. Is this a known issue? Has it been fixed in 10.12.4?
 
zany.ninja said:
With Sierra 10.12.3, when I enter last in Terminal, every startup/shutdown has been logged as a crash. It's the same on both my Air and iMac. Is this a known issue? Has it been fixed in 10.12.4?
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Didn't know that one.(Last command)
I just checked mine, kinda odd, only when I updated to a new beta, so yesterday and one week ago and every other beta update.

SvP said:
I partitioned the single, 1 TB SSD in two partitions (200 GB for the suysten, 800 GB for the data partition),
Converted one partition into an apfs partition. (handy guide: https://www.howtogeek.com/272741/how-to-format-a-drive-with-the-apfs-file-system-on-macos-sierra/ )
Copy over your home directory to the apfs partition, and change the location in advanced options under settings -> users -> you.

That's it. It could cost you your data though, so be careful.
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Hm, might do the same in the weekend, I have a 512 GB SSD in a 2012 MBP, plenty of free space.
But, do I need to erase the disk, wouldn't resizing this partition and creating a new partition be enough, I myself think probably not cause of APFS.
Yup, it's not that hard, especially moving the Home Folder
 
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