Apple Seeds Sixth OS X 10.10.3 Yosemite Beta to Developers, Public Beta Testers

[reivilo]

Apple has 2 major problems: focus and quality.

I don't care about fancy watches, I want my Mac to "just work".

 

[rmadera]

What about the issue where Mission Control gets choppy after a while? Can anyone check if it's been fixed?

 

[justperry]

Samsung 840, TRIM disabled for two months:

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Samsung 840, TRIM enabled again, SSD freshly trimmed using fsck command:

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Note that this is an older Samsung 840 (not "EVO"), so your experiences might be different. But I have experienced a similar speed degradation (noticeable in real life) with my previous Samsung SSD (SATA-1, don't remember the model). TRIM fixed it.

Wow, just wow.
I did what you did, had similar R/W as yours, after enabling TRIM and using fsck -ff in Single User Mode it shot up even higher than yours, but, I do have a 840Pro.
Seems all is much faster now.

 

[lucastatic]

What about the issue where Mission Control gets choppy after a while? Can anyone check if it's been fixed?

I'd also be interested to know this beta brings Mission Control performance back to how smooth it was in Mavericks. In general a lot of the blur-backgrounded features of Yosemite are really graphically laggy-- even on newer hardware. For example, minimizing a Safari window that is just displaying favorites. The entire background is blurred on this screen and it stutters all the way down into the dock when minimized. I really hope they address some of these graphical issues. Or have they already?

 

[You are the One]

I'd also be interested to know this beta brings Mission Control performance back to how smooth it was in Mavericks. In general a lot of the blur-backgrounded features of Yosemite are really graphically laggy-- even on newer hardware. For example, minimizing a Safari window that is just displaying favorites. The entire background is blurred on this screen and it stutters all the way down into the dock when minimized. I really hope they address some of these graphical issues. Or have they already?

I don't know this is helpful but it works fine for me smooth, no lag or stutter.

 

[AllergyDoc]

I thought this too, but I just noticed (and this might not be new to this beta) that if you select "Photos" under the Media heading in the sidebar you can browse your Photos app library. Selecting "Pictures" however doesn't work.

You're right! I hadn't even noticed that.

 

[lucastatic]

I don't know this is helpful but it works fine for me smooth, no lag or stutter.

That is helpful! Could I bother you test what I mentioned about Safari? (Minimizing a Safari window that is just showing the tiled-favorites screen... is it stuttery still?)

 

[You are the One]

That is helpful! Could I bother you test what I mentioned about Safari? (Minimizing a Safari window that is just showing the tiled-favorites screen... is it stuttery still?)

It's blazing fast, buddy. I normally don't use Favourites since it pre-loads the pages and establishes a lot of unnecessary communications for me, I'm a Little Snitch fanatic and only accept communications I really need for content. Anyway, works w/o problems.

Genie effect is little slower than Scale effect which is almost instant. I have transparency enabled.

 

[Skoal]

I'd also be interested to know this beta brings Mission Control performance back to how smooth it was in Mavericks. In general a lot of the blur-backgrounded features of Yosemite are really graphically laggy-- even on newer hardware. For example, minimizing a Safari window that is just displaying favorites. The entire background is blurred on this screen and it stutters all the way down into the dock when minimized. I really hope they address some of these graphical issues. Or have they already?

I haven't experienced this issue but I'm on a 2014 rMBP which may be why.

 

[Skoal]

I can see what's going to happen here. Yosemite will just about become ok and then Apple will release another "fantastic" OS which will be full of bugs. A year later, that will be stable then they release...I'm sure you get the idea.



We (ok, I) don't need a new OS every year. I used Windows XP for 6 years. It was pretty good in 2001 and even better by 2007. Most of industry (not office staff...industrial use) still uses it because it's solid as a rock. That's what I want..a Mac OS that's as solid as a rock!

So 6 years to get XP solid and the only difference is they didn't rename it in that timeframe. I like XP as far as windows is concerned but I've had plenty of issues with it. Still do.

I get folks are having issues with Yosemite but I've been a beta tester for the OS since day one and I can't complain at all fortunately. My MBP has run like a top the entire time. I didn't expect that to be the case.

 

[neutrak]

I haven't experienced this issue but I'm on a 2014 rMBP which may be why.

I am on a rMBP 2014 and my Mission Control performance is astoundingly laggy. Swiping between spaces that have a lot of transparency enabled is a jittery mess and using the expose app view when there's more than about 3 windows opened tends to run at about 3fps. I've tried everything, resetting NVRAM, SMC resets, reinstalling the operating system. It is always consistently laggy.

If this update could fix it then I'd be ecstatic. I've been trying to think of ways to get Apple to replace my model with the 2015 one but that hasn't worked... I'm pretty desperate.

 

[MikhailT]

is it just me, or do newer OS's have a much longer time in beta compared to the past few years ?

Probably just wanna makes sure Apple gets it right

I gave up on public beta, unless i was actually using the OS on a primary system or had upgraded too...

Testing in VM doesn't count, unless they have made changes in mail to strip out the initials that bugs me.... May look good and quick access to contacts from Mail and reminds you who sent message(s) to those in your contact list, but to me it's useless being there...

If Apple had a way to disable these icons initials in mail, then maybe would upgrade.

No, it is not that much longer than usual for .x.x update and the third update (.x.3) almost always takes longer to release compared to the first two updates. You can find a detailed history here: http://robservatory.com/a-useless-analysis-of-os-x-release-dates/

 

[lucastatic]

I am on a rMBP 2014 and my Mission Control performance is astoundingly laggy. Swiping between spaces that have a lot of transparency enabled is a jittery mess and using the expose app view when there's more than about 3 windows opened tends to run at about 3fps. I've tried everything, resetting NVRAM, SMC resets, reinstalling the operating system. It is always consistently laggy.

If this update could fix it then I'd be ecstatic. I've been trying to think of ways to get Apple to replace my model with the 2015 one but that hasn't worked... I'm pretty desperate.

I don't think the 2015 hardware will help. I work in computer repair and have seen many different Macs on Yosemite so far. They all have the exact same stuttering. I think Apple just needs to optimize their transparency/blur... I'm really, really hoping 10.10.3 has some improvements here. Whenever I work on a Mac that has Mavericks or prior I always get jealous at how buttery smooth everything is. Yosemite is a laggy mess in comparison. (Just with transparency anyways; it operates and works fluidly enough when transparent things aren't on-screen.)

 

[neutrak]

I don't think the 2015 hardware will help. I work in computer repair and have seen many different Macs on Yosemite so far. They all have the exact same stuttering. I think Apple just needs to optimize their transparency/blur... I'm really, really hoping 10.10.3 has some improvements here. Whenever I work on a Mac that has Mavericks or prior I always get jealous at how buttery smooth everything is. Yosemite is a laggy mess in comparison. (Just with transparency anyways; it operates and works fluidly enough when transparent things aren't on-screen.)

That's interesting. In my experience at the apple store, the 2015 rMBPs seemed much more smooth at everything and resizing windows and things seemed to have pretty high fps all over. Oh well, at least I won't feel so much like I've missed out now. I couldn't be bothered waiting for the 2015's but they seem so much better than what I've got.

 

[alvindarkness]

After my MacBook wouldn't boot (due to TRIM being enabled) I think I'm gonna run with it turned off. I can't run the risk of this happening again. Luckily this time I have a time machine backup, but I may not be so lucky next time.

If its because the nvram boot args were reset/deleted/changed, all you have to do is boot into your recovery partition (hold down option on boot and choose recovery), open terminal, and type in -:

nvram boot-args=kext-dev-mode=1

Reboot and it should work. If it doesnt work because the kernal extension itself is corrupt, you can copy it over from the recovery partition to your mac partition, repair permissions and reboot (a few more steps, but still very simple). Theres no need to go resorting to time machine or freaking out that it cant boot. Granted, not the sort of stuff you ideally want to do on osx since it should 'just work', but the trim enabler benefits vs hassle from recovering from a non booting system (which is simple), to me at least, seems an easy choice.

 

[stonerdt]

New problem: GMail not archiving in Mail

I am getting a new problem with this new beta release. In Apple Mail when I delete some message in my GMail Inbox, it disappears like normal but still stays in All Mail. Everything fine so far. Then when I quit Mail and reopen it, all my Inbox messages are back again as though I did not archive them. Very strange. I looked at my GMail directly through the web and the messages are not being archived there. So Mail is not archiving them in GMail like before. Major problem here. Any suggestions?

 

[bcc2k]

That's interesting. In my experience at the apple store, the 2015 rMBPs seemed much more smooth at everything ...

Well they do have a faster Iris 6100 but don't they also run on 10.10.3, because 10.10.2 doesn't support the Force Trackpad, if I'm not mistaken.

 

[MacGizmo]

I'd also be interested to know this beta brings Mission Control performance back to how smooth it was in Mavericks. In general a lot of the blur-backgrounded features of Yosemite are really graphically laggy-- even on newer hardware. For example, minimizing a Safari window that is just displaying favorites. The entire background is blurred on this screen and it stutters all the way down into the dock when minimized. I really hope they address some of these graphical issues. Or have they already?

I have ZERO "lag" issues with Yosemite, in the Finder, Mission Control, Safari, or anywhere else. In fact I've found it to be the speediest version of OS X yet.

That being said, a few things to consider:

• I'm on a 2014 27" iMac w/ 3.5 GHz i7, 32GB RAM and NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M 4096 MB video card and a pure SSD storage drive. This is a fully upgraded Mac, so I expect it runs much better than an "off the shelf" Mac.
• Over the last few years, I've cut way back on the amount of apps I have installed in OS X that have background daemons or menubar mini-apps running. This has helped immensely in realizing the speed the machine is capable of delivering.
• I absolutely, positively, NEVER run any anti-virus, defrag, system optimizer, or "disk fixer-upper" software of any kind.

Your mileage may vary

 

[bcc2k]

I have ZERO "lag" issues with Yosemite, in the Finder, Mission Control, Safari, or anywhere else. In fact I've found it to be the speediest version of OS X yet.

That being said, a few things to consider:
I'm on a 2014 27" iMac w/ 3.5 GHz i7, 32GB RAM and NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M 4096 MB video card and a pure SSD storage drive.

Well, this problem usually occurs with Retina devices and the Retina mode in OSX is rather GPU intense, as running OSX with the native resolution without the scaling is much faster.

 

[Martin29]

Is anyone else having difficulty downloading this update?

All previous betas have downloaded without issue. I got my notification last evening and hit the download button this morning. Download is extremely slow (total download 1.52Gb and a after nine hours I only have 450Mb downloaded!)

My ADSL is working as normal and showing 17Mb/s (verified by ISP) Suggests the Apple server is not functioning correctly or else there is an issue with the download files. Be interesting to know your experience and thoughts..

 

[crashoverride77]

Well they do have a faster Iris 6100 but don't they also run on 10.10.3, because 10.10.2 doesn't support the Force Trackpad, if I'm not mistaken.

You are asking in a OS X 10.10.3 BETA thread if the new MacBookPro 13" with force trackpad, which you can buy already, runs 10.10.3?

 

[bcc2k]

You are asking in a OS X 10.10.3 BETA thread if the new MacBookPro 13" with force trackpad, which you can buy already, runs 10.10.3?

Apple is shipping the new MacBookPros with a different OSX build (14C2513) apparently. So even though its still versioned as 10.10.2, it's probably closer to the 10.10.3 beta.
But then again, it was only speculation

 

[cromagnontech]

I am getting a new problem with this new beta release. In Apple Mail when I delete some message in my GMail Inbox, it disappears like normal but still stays in All Mail. Everything fine so far. Then when I quit Mail and reopen it, all my Inbox messages are back again as though I did not archive them. Very strange. I looked at my GMail directly through the web and the messages are not being archived there. So Mail is not archiving them in GMail like before. Major problem here. Any suggestions?

I'm seeing exactly the same. If you archive in the web interface (or on a machine running 10.10.2), the messages will disappear from the inbox in Mail in 10.10.3.

I've reported through the Feedback app.

 

[zerolight]

I'm having trouble sharing video from Yosemite photos app. I have several albums containing a mix of photo and. Video. When sharing those albums some share just photos, some share all photo and video, some share some of the video. Anyone seen this. Any ideas?

 

[Skoal]

I don't think the 2015 hardware will help. I work in computer repair and have seen many different Macs on Yosemite so far. They all have the exact same stuttering. I think Apple just needs to optimize their transparency/blur... I'm really, really hoping 10.10.3 has some improvements here. Whenever I work on a Mac that has Mavericks or prior I always get jealous at how buttery smooth everything is. Yosemite is a laggy mess in comparison. (Just with transparency anyways; it operates and works fluidly enough when transparent things aren't on-screen.)

Again, this just hasn't been my experience at all. Guess it just goes to show how even the exact same hardware with the exact same OS can act so completely different. Like people lol!