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Apple Seeds Sixth OS X 10.11 El Capitan Beta to Developers

xmichaelp said:
Currently running Mountain Lion after a failed time machine restore. :(

My days with beta OSes are over. I knew about bugs and all that, but completely breaking my install and not letting me roll back to the previous version sucks.
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Which is why you should read the installation notes, which clearly tell you not to install beta software on primary machines or over the top of current operating systems, so you end up getting what you deserve. You never heard of installing on to a partition or external drive?
 
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leman said:
I didn't notice any improvements in that area, but then again, my computer has an SSD with 2GB/s :D
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Nugh, those are crazy speeds. Do you have the latest 1TB 15" MBP Retina or are you running some delicious SSD RAID thing through a cMP?
 
leman said:
That might be right, but at the same time Safari should not crash even if the extension does something wrong, its a managed environment after all. Crashes indicate that there are bugs in the extension API. The correct behaviour is to crash the extension instead.
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Correct, Apple have sandboxed these issues for some time now, and the use of the word "crashed" is overused to describe minor glitches not the actual crashing and unexpected quitting of Safari, so my use was not correct, but used in context in regard to those commenting on Safari crashing. I myself haven't had Safari "crash" for a very long time, but while testing in beta the odd spinning beachball and page load errors do occur. But anyone who does experience issues, should just try turning off extensions, it may save having to read more "Safari crashes on El Capitan beta 6" comments.
 
leman said:
Its the 2015 15" model with 512GB
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Darn, you're getting 2GB/s read/write in Blackmagic? I know the Flash chips work in parallel (so the higher the storage, the quicker the speeds) - and I benchmarked the 256GB in-office (which got 1.8GB read, 1.4GB write) ... still stupid crazy speeds though.

I wonder if anybody has the 1TB model benchmarked ...
 
I can’t see any update in the AppStore although I have installed dp5. But I also installed pb3 before. So can I delete the public beta profile?
 
I wish Apple would stop it with these crap OS names - they mean nothing to anyone outside the US...
 
Kroo said:
Which is why you should read the installation notes, which clearly tell you not to install beta software on primary machines or over the top of current operating systems, so you end up getting what you deserve. You never heard of installing on to a partition or external drive?
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No need to be that rude to him man, he even said that he had a Time Machine backup which also failed to restore after El Capitan bricked his machine. It's a reasonable precaution to make and I wouldn't say he got what he deserved - it was bitterly unlucky.
 
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adrianlondon said:
When you say it works fine, does "folders on top" work?

When you say "temporarily disable SIP" have you re-enabled it again and it still works?
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I'm not sure what you mean exactly when you say "folders on top".

When you disable SIP, it enables ExtraFinder to run as rootless is disabled. If you re-enable SIP, ExtraFinder won't be able to run, so excuse my use of the word temporary, my context was regarding the testing of ExtraFinder, to the expectation it will run 100% efficiently on El Cap. The ExtraFinder FB page will keep you updated of any changes.
 
keysofanxiety said:
No need to be that rude to him man, he even said that he had a Time Machine backup which also failed to restore after El Capitan bricked his machine. It's a reasonable precaution to make and I wouldn't say he got what he deserved - it was bitterly unlucky.
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When all the expert commentary, release notes, community conversation and clear warnings have stated time and time again, NOT to install beta software over current OS's or on primary machines (it is clearly stated when you run the installer), then someone does, and complains when it goes sour, they can only blame themselves for being so ignorant in the first place. It's an insult to common sense to even comment on tech blogs of such stupidity, you are just asking for a serve.

He was not unlucky at all, he was either stupid or arrogant in thinking installing beta software over a current OS, was a great idea, regardless of having a backup. If he knew anything at all, he could've used his software restore function.

How many more times does it have to be stated before people stop doing it? No sympathy at all. I hope he's learnt a valuable lesson. Next time he may just heed all the warnings.

And can we give the term "Bricked" a rest. It's incorrect and ignorant.
 
Kroo said:
When all the expert commentary, release notes, community conversation and clear warnings have stated time and time again, NOT to install beta software over current OS's or on primary machines (it is clearly stated when you run the installer), then someone does, and complains about it, they can only blame themselves for being so ignorant in the first place. It's an insult to common sense to even comment on tech blogs of such stupidity, you are just asking for a serve.

He was not unlucky at all, he was either stupid or arrogant in thinking installing beta software over a current OS, was a great idea, regardless of having a backup. If he knew anything at all, he could've used his software restore function.

How many more times does it have to be stated before people stop doing it? No sympathy at all. I hope he's learnt a valuable lesson. Next time he may just heed all the warnings.

And can we give the term "Bricked" a rest. It's incorrect and ignorant.
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Heh, a quick scan through all your posts kinda confirms this attitude isn't isolated to your comment. Maybe have a smoke and a beer, try not to take things too seriously or personally. It's only a forum on the Internet about Apple products.
 
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For anyone running El Capitan, does it fix the MacBook wifi issue where you wake from sleep and see an exclamation point through the wifi symbol and have to turn it off and back on? I thought 10.10.4 would fix this but it didn't.
 
keysofanxiety said:
Heh, a quick scan through all your posts kinda confirms this attitude isn't isolated to your comment. Maybe have a smoke and a beer, try not to take things too seriously or personally. It's only a forum on the Internet about Apple products.
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I completely agree....although I would leave out the smoke........some people just need to chill:)
 
Ok to all all those who can't see Beta 6 in the App Store Updates like myself go check your version under About This Mac, I've noticed my version of OS X El Capitan is 15A244d already but not showing up as being updated to this version in Updates, My MBP was plugged in overnight so i'm assuming Power Nap updated this automatically for me but it just isn't showing up
 
Kroo said:
When all the expert commentary, release notes, community conversation and clear warnings have stated time and time again, NOT to install beta software over current OS's or on primary machines (it is clearly stated when you run the installer), then someone does, and complains when it goes sour, they can only blame themselves for being so ignorant in the first place.
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Then you need to start reading those release notes as you clearly didn't. Apple says you shouldn't use it as your primary OS on primary machines, that you are better off using a test machine AND that in all cases you should use backups.

In this case the problem isn't the use of a beta OS as primary OS. The problem is in restoring the backup. No matter how you put it, if you have a backup you should be able to restore it. I wonder how the backup was taken and how it is being restored. Could be that the backup is being restored in an incorrect way which has got nothing to do with a beta OS whatsoever. Another thing could be that the backup was corrupt, something that happens quite often. That's why you always have to check if it was done properly and you can restore stuff.

@xmichaelp: how did you take that backup and how did you try to restore it?

If he knew anything at all, he could've used his software restore function.
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He did and it failed, that's the problem ;)

How many more times does it have to be stated before people stop doing it?
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And how many more times until you start reading what it says instead of what you want it to say?
 
Anybody have issues post install? Mine has been sitting with a progress bar near 99% for the last several hours and despite rebooting it, going into safe mode, going into single user mode, nothing seems to get me past this. How can I fix the boot? This has happened a few times in the past, but a force reboot usually fixes it.
 
Who said they are limiting it to the US? The are now using names of places that are meaningful to them. Could be in the US but doesn't have to. Names do say more than numbers though.
 
I'm running Mavericks 10.9.5 alongside El Capitan beta 6 on the same Mac Mini (late 2009) in the partitioned HD.

I did XBench on both the OSes and I got better results for Mavericks, far better specially in Quartz Graphics Test ( 209.36 vs 102.02 !? ) and User Interface Test (188.98 vs 18.71 !?!?!? ) , still El Capitan running faster and smoother than Mavericks in every aspects.

How it is possible?

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