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Apple Seeds Sixth OS X 10.11 El Capitan Beta to Developers
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I've never seen a snow leopard in the wild. It's just a naming scheme, and you can jjust call it OSX10.11
If any other developers were having issues downloading this beta, Apple Developer Support says it's an ongoing issue with a number of customers and that they are working on it. I haven't been able to download it since the download failed last night.
Currently running Mountain Lion after a failed time machine restore.
My days with beta OSes are over. I knew about bugs and all that, but completely breaking my install and not letting me roll back to the previous version sucks.
Have a carbon copy cloner full disk backup before you begin then it's trivial to restore. Beta oses are always like this if you aren't prepared to do a full restore from a good backup don't get involved. That's not harsh but simple advice.
I tried this in Terminal and the update showed and downloaded:
sudo softwareupdate --install --all
Found this via the developer forums.
I figured it was just my eyes getting older that I sometimes have trouble finding the cursor!We're getting closer to Windows 7 window-snapping and an easier to find cursor!
Xbench has not been updated for ages. It is by no means an accurate measure to assess the overall speed of a system.
How about the Expose lag on your Mini? Is there any Expose lag at all on El Capitan?
Its very simple: don't use flawed benchmarks. For instance, consider the UI refresh benchmark. For Mavericks, it reports over 800 refreshes/sec while for El Capitan, its just 80. Surely it means that Mavericks is much faster, no? The crucial fact, which XBench blatantly disregards here, is that the display can only display 60 updates per second. This means that modifying the UI hundreds of times per second is completely and utterly pointless. In fact, an application that attempts something like that should be considered buggy. This is why OS X introduced an optimisation on 10.10, which removes all the unnecessary (invisible) updates. For the user, nothing is changed, but a lot of unnecessary work is avoided — the buggy application uses less CPU, your computer runs cooler and the user is happy. The same probably applies to the Quartz drawing tests as well.
XBench might have been useful some years ago. However, at this point it should be retired to the garbage dump of history, where it rightfully belongs
You said these names have no meaning. Who are you to decide what someone finds meaningful?
I had to boot into safe mode once to finalize the installation. On the first try i got a kernel panic. Now everything is fine.
Its very simple: don't use flawed benchmarks. For instance, consider the UI refresh benchmark. For Mavericks, it reports over 800 refreshes/sec while for El Capitan, its just 80. Surely it means that Mavericks is much faster, no? The crucial fact, which XBench blatantly disregards here, is that the display can only display 60 updates per second. This means that modifying the UI hundreds of times per second is completely and utterly pointless. In fact, an application that attempts something like that should be considered buggy. This is why OS X introduced an optimisation on 10.10, which removes all the unnecessary (invisible) updates. For the user, nothing is changed, but a lot of unnecessary work is avoided — the buggy application uses less CPU, your computer runs cooler and the user is happy. The same probably applies to the Quartz drawing tests as well.
XBench might have been useful some years ago. However, at this point it should be retired to the garbage dump of history, where it rightfully belongs
Good to know! So, what program can I use to benchmark my Mac on these modern days?
If you mean Mission Control on Mavericks it gets a lag the first time I play it, then it plays smooth although not so snappy.
Mission Control on El Capitan runs smooth and fast like the other OS animations, all the gui is very responsive too.
It depends on what you want to benchmark. There is no allround benchmark suite that I would be aware of. And there are no benchmarks that would test the performance of the UI (because it is quite difficult to test). For benchmarking your OpenGL implementation, I'd recommend the Unigine benchmarks.
Since updating to OS X El Capitan Beta 6 Xcode 7 Beta 4 now no longer works was hoping a new Beta would have arrived today but nothing as yet
was hoping a new Beta would have arrived today but nothing as yet
I found a sort of animation bug.
When you drag a window on the side of the screen to put it in the next desktop, the window also slide away with the first desktop and then "jump" to the second at the end of the animation.
The regular animation is that just the desktops slides under the window.
When you drag a window on the side of the screen to put it in the next desktop, the window also slide away with the first desktop and then "jump" to the second at the end of the animation.
The regular animation is that just the desktops slides under the window.
I'm running the 1TB on a 2014 MBP and I'm only hitting around 900 MB/s read & write. Of course that isn't a thorough test (lots of applications like Xcode open reading and writing as well) but still pretty nice
Ah right, the 2015 has 2x the Flash speed as the 2014 though which is why I'm interested. speeds are ridiculous.
Having the same issue with Chrome. I'll try to switch to Chrome beta to see if it's any better. I had gone back to release since that had a problem with 1Password. Betas are just no fun!
i've had extensive spotlight reindexing and metadata updates... if that's the problem it'll be blazing fast in a day or soHaving the same issue with Chrome. I'll try to switch to Chrome beta to see if it's any better. I had gone back to release since that had a problem with 1Password. Betas are just no fun!
Yes, this appears to be my mistake. It had the (/) symbol over it and wasn't working in several betas.Xcode 6.4 worked on Beta 1 and Beta 5. It's so pathetic that I can't help myself but laugh about it.
It actually appears to be working fine for me in this build. (Both 6.4 and 7.0 beta)
When 6.4 stopped working, I just stopped using it and switched to 7.0 beta, so I didn't notice that it started working again in beta 5. I assumed it was like old versions of VMWare in the Yosemite beta, where they intentionally blocked it and required an app update.