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Apple Seeds 'Snow Leopard Graphics Update' to Developers

greythorne said:
Is yours an iMac or macbook pro?

When you said ALL folders what you mean by that?
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I'm on a MacBook Pro with a GeForce 9600M + 9400M (unibody first model).

I meant "all the files inside Extensions", except the ati and intel ones 🙂
I wrote folders because some of those are folders/packages/bundles 🙂

I've just updated my original post with WoW behavior before and after the driver update... 🙂
 
ATMB said:
I'm on a MacBook Pro with a GeForce 9600M + 9400M (unibody first model).

I meant "all the files inside Extensions", except the ati and intel ones 🙂
I wrote folders because some of those are folders/packages/bundles 🙂

I've just updated my original post with WoW behavior before and after the driver update... 🙂
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So any improvements?
 
Ah

greythorne said:
what to extract? give some details pls

thanks
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In the actual file there is a section: system/library/extensions.

In that section there are a number of ATI kexts.

Highlight ALL of them and select "install" in the pacifist masthead.

You're done.

Reboot.

I've been up 1 day, 5 hours and 41 minutes with no problems at all.
 
And

I've thought about some of these changes and realize this also potentially could benefit Leopard based systems as well. More as I play with it....
 
aliensporebomb said:
In the actual file there is a section: system/library/extensions.

In that section there are a number of ATI kexts.

Highlight ALL of them and select "install" in the pacifist masthead.

You're done.

Reboot.

I've been up 1 day, 5 hours and 41 minutes with no problems at all.
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Hmmmm ok. What about one who reported the GPU temperature being higher? Does that affect you or others who have done this?
 
I have an iMac 7,1 with the nvidia 8800 [edit] Trying it out now.. Pacifist is great!

Wouldn't it be funny if somehow they managed to wring higher FPS out of the OsX than Windows? That would confuse people. 😀

Ed: This is looking good. This is looking REALLY good. 😀
 
But be careful with temps under SC2!

I wonder how much hotter temps are going to be. On my 2009 i7 iMac after about an hour in SC2 running at full resolution with some options turned down, my GPU temp is 88 Degrees Celsius and very hot to the touch... I wonder what they would be with this update.
 
OK, just had a quick play after extracting everything Nvidia out of the iMac update (including AppleGPUPowerManagement) and it doesn't appear to have made a difference. I think the drivers I got from Nvidia fixed the mess that 10.6.4 made but they are apparently specific to the GTX 285.

I was playing WoW prior to the update and sadly I can't run it on high or extreme but still get decent detail but FPS drop to ~30 in Dalaran.

I applied those kexts via Pacifist, touched the Extensions folder and restarted and yeah, no different. I also checked the driver version and it says version 2.1 Nvidia 1.6.18. Sadly I don't know what it was prior as I didn't know where to find it at the time.

I have noticed a bit of screen tearing though, this is only when I'm not using any graphics intensive apps. Weird thing is, It doesn't appear when a game is running like if I have WoW in windowed mode and quickly move a window around, it's smooth but if WoW is closed (or any other game) I get the tearing. This was happening before I played around with the drivers.

Would be awesome if I can get Ultra settings in WoW with a constant 60fps 😛

Also, if anyone's wondering. Here's the contents of the driver from Nvidia (19.5.8f03.dmg).

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It appears as though that will work with most Nvidia cards although their site said it was specific to GTX 285.
 
Akshunhiro said:
OK, just had a quick play after extracting everything Nvidia out of the iMac update (including AppleGPUPowerManagement) and it doesn't appear to have made a difference. I think the drivers I got from Nvidia fixed the mess that 10.6.4 made but they are apparently specific to the GTX 285.

I was playing WoW prior to the update and sadly I can't run it on high or extreme but still get decent detail but FPS drop to ~30 in Dalaran.

I applied those kexts via Pacifist, touched the Extensions folder and restarted and yeah, no different. I also checked the driver version and it says version 2.1 Nvidia 1.6.18. Sadly I don't know what it was prior as I didn't know where to find it at the time.

I have noticed a bit of screen tearing though, this is only when I'm not using any graphics intensive apps. Weird thing is, It doesn't appear when a game is running like if I have WoW in windowed mode and quickly move a window around, it's smooth but if WoW is closed (or any other game) I get the tearing. This was happening before I played around with the drivers.

Would be awesome if I can get Ultra settings in WoW with a constant 60fps 😛

Also, if anyone's wondering. Here's the contents of the driver from Nvidia (19.5.8f03.dmg).

attachment.php


It appears as though that will work with most Nvidia cards although their site said it was specific to GTX 285.
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Considering the new iMacs don't have an nVidia card at all, I doubt the updated drivers can be found in there.

Could be wrong though.
 
Bolteh said:
Considering the new iMacs don't have an nVidia card at all, I doubt the updated drivers can be found in there.

Could be wrong though.
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If you open the .pkg in Pacifist, you will find several nVidia/GeForce kexts with the same dates as the ATI kexts.
 
So would this be a good time to finally upgrade my 2009 Mac Mini GeForce 9400M to 10.6x ?

I've been waiting for the graphics issues to be fixed in Snow Leopard before I took the plunge.

Are the graphics on par with 10.5 - or have they finally been surpassed with this update?
 
Shrug

Master Chief said:
I'm under NDA so I can't really tell anything, except maybe that I hear the fan a lot more, and the GPU temperature is higher now. Oh hello album art [iTunes]. That's a nice improvement. Thank you Apple.
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Temperatures:

I watch my machine from remote using istat on my iphone4 and notice that the GPU diode temp ranges from between 128-136 degrees fahrenheit with the screen blanked and the GPU heatsink sits about 126 degrees.

Mostly what it was before.

I'll look at after-change temps later today. I don't game a ton, if I do it's usually for X-Plane and I'll also watch HD videos and such.

Here's current temps (in fahrenheit) running just BOINC/Seti at Home in the background after being up 1 day, 10 hours, 10 minutes since the kext change:

CPU: 153
Ambient: 72
GPU Diode: 131
GPU Heatsink: 126
Mem Controller: 124
Optical Drive: 104
Power Supply 2: 166

Fan Speeds:
CPU Fan: 1583 RPM
Optical Drive: 998 RPM
Hard Drive: 1101 RPM
 
I just replaced whole Extensions folder from the iMac update using Pacifist and it really feels better in native Mac games i have. Can't say how much better, but better for sure.
 
10.6.4 graphics on 30" monitor

When I upgraded to 10.6.4 my 30" monitor now has a mirror image on the right hand side. I called Apple about this and they took a bunch of information and they said there are a number of people that are having the same problems with 30" monitors on older Macbook Pro's (2007). Hopefully this update will fix this, I don't know though.
 
After trying just the graphic drivers, I updated my whole extensions folder and still nothing.

(MacPro 2008 with Nvidia 8800)
 
Suggestion:
Don't replace the entire folder, doing so made my Magic Mouse scrolling no longer work forcing me to replace the Extensions folder with one from a Time Machine backup. I suggest just installing the specific graphic drivers.
 
Will this improve the performance of the Nvidia 330m GTs in the newest MBPs? I've got an i7 15" 2010. For example, Star Craft II suggests that I run the game at high, but I only get between 15-20 FPS on High. Once I kick it down to medium I get 30-40 FPS. Once this update hits, I should hopefully be able to run things on High much more easily? 😀
 
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