Apple has no obligation but they could ease the way a bit more. Also I can't blame dev's for not wanting to do multiple compatibility rewrites during any given beta process, so no, they really haven't had "months".
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Apple Seeds Third OS X El Capitan 10.11.1 Beta to Developers and Public Beta Testers
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......and get a Thesaurus.
We are dealing with RUMORS, so nothing is ever clear.
MR just report things accordingly! Thank you.
Or they can disable SIP in about a minute if they really want to. If you know how to be carefull SIP isn't for everyone. I mean we were fine for all the years and OSX versions that didn't have SIP till now. The world didn't come to and end and no ones computer exploded because they didn't have SIP.
Doesn't matter who wrote it.
It's uncreative and not even necessary to write:
It is not clear.............
Yeah, s/he would have written "you can't write for $#!@ you w@nker, get a new job, so help me mum I will unsubscribe from your Twitter"
There were no major API changes for almost all apps to maintain compatibility with El Cap except for SIP, which MS shouldn't be violating in the first place. In other words, Apple did in fact ensure that developers would not have any problems for El Cap as much as they can (excluding SIP).
99% of the apps just works fine with zero change on El Capitan or even Yosemite or even Mavericks.
Microsoft chose to remain with the older APIs and write their own custom code that's fragile by nature. They were the last major vendor to leave Carbon APIs when everyone else left it for more than 10 years.
Microsoft is a big company with a large QA department that can test their apps on beta versions to make sure it works fine when it comes out.
Oh good. More emoji. Whoopee. Everyone with a mental age of 12 rejoice.
Then you haven't worked in CS/QA long enough. I've helped a lot of people whose systems were unstable because they installed tools to modify their systems and it've caused them nothing but problems.
Dropbox used to cause a lot of problems with Finder because of the way they've injected into Finder until Apple killed it and offer an API for Dropbox to use, which in fact did help with stability issues. Same thing with Safari in the past before Apple offered the extensions API. SIP is going further with this.
You have the option to disable it, that's your choice but for majority of users who are not aware of how to protect themselves, they should leave SIP enabled by default.
Developer seed note says focus areas are mail and microsoft office 2016.
Can the middle finger be like the iPhone 6S Live Photo in this beta? I want it animated, otherwise Apple will need to do another Beta update.
I'd be willing to try it, but that last 2 installs of 10.11.1 caused me pain; Kernel Panics. Did a clean install of 10.11, with minimal apps [Office 2016, iWork, Evernote, basic stuff]. Did a T M backup, and installed 10.11.1 B1 over it, KP's. Then cleaned and restored. 10.11 worked fine, and no issues. Then did a 10.11.1 B2, within 24 hours, KP's.
Not sure if this iteration [B3] is better, but I'll hold off for the GM of 10.11.1.
Not sure if this iteration [B3] is better, but I'll hold off for the GM of 10.11.1.
Done this on iMac and Mac Mini. Seems fine so far, but not using much as remove to them.
I'll do a TM backup first on this rMBP still before I update this.
I'll do a TM backup first on this rMBP still before I update this.
Most bugs result from not doing a fresh install but installing on top of a previous OS. Apple employees have confirmed to me that this is not ideal (even though it's Apple's officially proposed method). It's been running bug free since beta 4 for me. I have around 50 apps installed and they all run smoothly. But I don't use Outlook or Exchange, so can't comment on that.
Just like with all previous updates, my system runs perfectly fine after updating. To me El Capitan is the fastest and most perfect OS X until now. It's the new Snow Leopard and even more than that.
Just like with all previous updates, my system runs perfectly fine after updating. To me El Capitan is the fastest and most perfect OS X until now. It's the new Snow Leopard and even more than that.
It is not Apple's responsibility to make sure applications by other developers are compatible with their operating system. If Apple had to go around making sure every other developers software is compatible with their operating system, The operating system would never get released.
That is why they have developers build. So the developers have time to make sure their applications are compatible with the new operating system. If the developers applications get broken in the new operating system once it's released it is the developer's fault for dragging their tales and not getting it done. Same thing applies to Microsoft. It is not Microsoft responsibility to make sure Applications by other developers are compatible with their operating system.
I'd had that suggested to me by a few others, but I was leery of trying it, but finally did. Happy to report this fixed the issue of me as well.
