Microsoft is a big company but that doesn't it will devote resources to the Mac. The saying goes if there are 100 dev on office for windows, there would be 10 for the Mac. lets face it. MS has no big interest in giving mac users a good experience. they will just make it good enough so you will still pay. As long as MS is a monopoly, it will never change. What we need is another company that can compete with MS.
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Apple Seeds Third OS X El Capitan 10.11.1 Beta to Developers and Public Beta Testers
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Microsoft is a big company but that doesn't it will devote resources to the Mac. The saying goes if there are 100 dev on office for windows, there would be 10 for the Mac. lets face it. MS has no big interest in giving mac users a good experience. they will just make it good enough so you will still pay. As long as MS is a monopoly, it will never change. What we need is another company that can compete with MS.
I had the same firmware update phenomenon occur when I installed the beta on my Mid 2010 17" MBP. However, I'm not convinced it was a true firmware update.
I unfortunately don't have the SMC firmware version, but I do have the Boot ROM version from before and after. The Boot ROM version is exactly the same.
MBP61.88Z.0057.B10.1507212154
I ran Geekbench the other day to compare with my new iPhone (sadly the iPhone is faster than this MacBook Pro in the Geekbench 3 tests). I reran the test today and saw a slight improvement in speeds.
Single-Core went from 1869 to 1893 and Multi-Core went from 3977 to 4012. I can't remember my configuration at the time, but the newest test was done while the machine was unplugged. I also want to say the machine is running cooler now. Maybe too much placebo going on...
Here's the before and after comparison.
It does seem to be a bit faster. I also notice that I'm not switching to the discrete graphics card nearly as much (often triggered when watching YouTube in Safari, even with HTML5).
Overall, 10.11.1 is shaping up to be a good update. Overall, I'm very happy with 10.11. OS X 10.10 was terrible on my MacBook Pro.
I unfortunately don't have the SMC firmware version, but I do have the Boot ROM version from before and after. The Boot ROM version is exactly the same.
MBP61.88Z.0057.B10.1507212154
I ran Geekbench the other day to compare with my new iPhone (sadly the iPhone is faster than this MacBook Pro in the Geekbench 3 tests). I reran the test today and saw a slight improvement in speeds.
Single-Core went from 1869 to 1893 and Multi-Core went from 3977 to 4012. I can't remember my configuration at the time, but the newest test was done while the machine was unplugged. I also want to say the machine is running cooler now. Maybe too much placebo going on...
Here's the before and after comparison.
It does seem to be a bit faster. I also notice that I'm not switching to the discrete graphics card nearly as much (often triggered when watching YouTube in Safari, even with HTML5).
Overall, 10.11.1 is shaping up to be a good update. Overall, I'm very happy with 10.11. OS X 10.10 was terrible on my MacBook Pro.
The firmware on a 2012 Macbook Air was updated with the 10.11.1 beta from today.
When my mid-2010 27"iMac was rebooting during the install it made a really weird sound (almost like the normal boot sound but off key), came uup with a light grey screen and an enlarged progress bar. Then it rebooted again came up with the usual install progress bar and all was as normal. Anyone got any ideas what that was?
I've never had this happen before.
I've never had this happen before.
Will put this on my iMac first I think as away from home and want an up to date TM backup first before doing on my rMBP
Good idea, this update had me in 75% land forever (same as the 6th beta did to me) and after an hour of that I decided it wasn't going to magically fix itself. At least this time I was able to restore from a flash drive and time machine backup but it took me 2 hours to do. Public beta 6 bricked me to the point option restore wouldn't even do anything and I had to have it fixed at a genius bar. I think I am done being a beta tester.
That is one big middle finger.
Unapologetically big one, that. 676MB is atrociously big for a finger.
I have a weird Firmware situation, my firmware is newer than Apple list on its site, mine is
MBP91.00D3.B0C while Apple site says latest is MBP91.00D3.B0B!
And the boot screen isn't even a white Apple on a black screen like my 2012 Mac Mini has, that one got a firmware update a few months ago, this MacbookPro 13" has even newer firmware, yet no updated boot screen.
I can't either, signed out and into iCloud did not solve the problem, if I try to send mail it always asks for password for keychain access, weird, I repaired keychain, no luck either.
But, what I find strange is that there is no Mail in the access tab in some email addresses in keychain, can't even do that manually as I could before, it only says Appleaccount. (see screenshot)
All these problems arose after I bought this new 2012 MBP 13" cheaply, upgraded to EL Cap and Synced from a Time Machine backup from my Mac Mini.
That isn't weird. The list of available firmwares will be updated after 10.11.1 is released.
Only Homebrew Cask, which is a command-line utility for installing and uninstalling software.
Phew! That's a relief. Now I know there are new emojis, I'll stop worrying about the SMTP password bug and the fact that Safari now garbles my email address when autofilling forms. Well done, Apple! You're competing with Microsoft on its own terms now.
Screen Sharing is working again, although that might have been fixed in one of the earlier betas. Still broken in 10.11
I thought these audio changes were only for iOS 9 to support the new audio plugins framework? If it is for OS X, then I stand corrected but again, nothing that would explain MS issues.
The old Microsoft, maybe, but Microsoft has been pivoting itself to be a cross-platform company, so that it can generate revenues from its subscription services like Office 365, OneDrive, Azure, and so on.
It is releasing iOS and Android apps faster than its own platforms, they're working with Apple and Google to provide more services and many more that shows Microsoft does in fact want to be on all platforms it can be.
In order for Office 365 to be justified, it needs to have a solid client on all platforms that the users are on. Office 365+OneDrive will eventually make more money for Microsoft than the traditional Office sales, they do have a big interest in making sure OS X and iOS apps are solid. Microsoft knows that Windows+Office cannot be their cash cow for long, so they're making sure there are other revenues.
They've already issued an update to fix the issue with Office 2011 on OS X, an update is coming for Office 2016 soon.
After I installed this beta yesterday, I couldn't run an internet search with either DuckDuckGo or Google. I would type something in and Safari would just hang, with the progress bar at about 15-20%. I could click on bookmarks but search wasn't possible. I rebooted and corrected. MacRumors is slow now when I entering the forums.
Did you recently install an extension, like one of these new content blockers? I had a lot of problems with the new content blockers and once I disabled them, all problems are resolved.
It showed the same problem on iOS, so I suspect Apple has a bug somewhere.
I've not seen any updates for El Capitan since the Beta 6 version, September 28th... When I go to the App store to download El Capitan, it says I already have it installed... I'm running: 10.11 Beta (15A278b).
Any suggestions?
Thanks -
Coachingguy
Any suggestions?
Thanks -
Coachingguy
I have ghost and add blocker installed. I turned them off one at a time and tested it, then turned them both off and tested it. It made no difference. Thankfully the behavior disappeared after I rebooted.
Ignore the warning that you have it installed and download anyway.
You might be correct. I do know they don't assign the same amount of developers. Overall, they are just making it good enough to keep you in. For Mac or other non-windows users, we just need a true competitor. Right now Microsoft dictates what they want to give. This is really a monopoly.
What? Lol Juli just has a tendency to post like this. In every single article. It's annoying.
I've been getting an error in the Mac App Store and iCloud preference pane ever since beta 2 (I believe). Now running beta 3 (10.11.1 Beta (15B30a)).
The Mac App Store gives me an error every time I try to update anything:
Strange thing is that I can update all system updates, beta or otherwise, but nothing else. Not Xcode. Not the Kindle app, etc.
All other devices work just fine with my Apple ID. So that isn't the problem.
My iMac allows me to update everything in the Mac App Store. It's just my MacBook that won't let me update anything and it's the only one running the public beta of El Cap. THAT has to be the issue. At least that's what I deduced and what a support person told me. I hope that's the case.
Anybody else?
The Mac App Store gives me an error every time I try to update anything:
An unexpected error occurred while signing in.
Your device or computer could not be verified. Contact support for assistance.
Your device or computer could not be verified. Contact support for assistance.
Strange thing is that I can update all system updates, beta or otherwise, but nothing else. Not Xcode. Not the Kindle app, etc.
iCloud preference pane error:Sign in to use your Apple ID.
The password for "appleidhere" needs to be updated.
An unknown error occurred. (this is in red)
Password field.
The password for "appleidhere" needs to be updated.
An unknown error occurred. (this is in red)
Password field.
All other devices work just fine with my Apple ID. So that isn't the problem.
My iMac allows me to update everything in the Mac App Store. It's just my MacBook that won't let me update anything and it's the only one running the public beta of El Cap. THAT has to be the issue. At least that's what I deduced and what a support person told me. I hope that's the case.
Anybody else?