Im just glad the software dept is finally taking bug fixing and quality seriously, I don't care if there are 10 release canditates
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Apple Seeds Third Release Candidate Version of macOS Big Sur 11.2 to Developers [Update: Public Beta Too]
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Emphatically agree. Basic bugs like the constant Kernel Panics on reboot are unforgivable.
Because some bugs will be discovered after the final release. And also each release has a scope, so usually, they fix stuff that was planned for the release and stuff that was broken by accident when adding new stuff. And a lot of bugs that require more work and were discovered but were not planned for the release, will be just pushed for the next one.
I signed up here to ask this. Every time the display sleeps or plug in I need to rotate 90deg and revert to get 5120 x 1440 for my 49" samsung with my M1 mbp. Very frustrating.
A-to-the-men!
There are so many things I don't get.
- The arbitrary annual OSX update that despite the summer beta program keeps ending up worse than the previous and is finally stable at the end of its lifecycle. Yes, take a couple years to get it right while continuing regular security patches and updates. I don't understand how "taking time to get it right" only applies to hardware and not software. Why should Apple take all the time in the world to get hardware "right" with redesigns every 4-8 years AND release a new halfboiled OS every frigging year? Is it because tooling is expensive but devs aren't?
- Big Sur confirmed our collective fears for iOS-ification of OSX instead of doing it the other way around. Considering iOS has also become extremely dadcore with its enormous typography, random padding around UI elements, and super wasteful with e.g. the sparse information density in those ho-hum widget squircles
- Big Sur muddles the iPad and Mac product vision, with macOS that looks and behaves like it's touch optimised which it's not part of the plan. iPadOS helped the iPad kinda escape the oversized-iPhone state but a Mac replacement it is not. So what's the future like? Unification? A computer and almost-computer-tablet living parallel lives? I wish Apple had the kind of visionary leadership to sort it out for us.
- It's high time for an iOS rethink too. The last overhaul was with iOS 7, and since then it's been collecting bloat and dust on Jony's flat design which hasn't aged well. Time to decouple iOS releases from apps like iMessage as well so we can look forward to more than just messenger memojis.
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That’s why they call them candidates.
Okay, I will brace myself for the downvotes giving this very unpopular opinion but I REALLY LIKE Big Sur.
The interface refresh was long overdue and looks great on my 5K iMac. It's a well thought out evolution and not a radical Windows 8 type of disastrous revolution. It's still a Mac!
Icons have finally a consistent shape instead of the "round/squared/sometimes tilted and sometimes not tilted" mess of previous OS-es.
Mac OS Catalina's interface looked worn out, after the constant 'dumbing down' of the Aqua interface that was started with Yosemite.
I like that Maps, iMessage and Photos are much more up to speed with its iOS counterparts, although there are apps that need some work (I'm looking at you, Music!)
So despite some bugs here and there (that were mostly fixed in 11.1 for me) I LOVE Big Sur and I am glad Apple has polished its OS.
Okay, now you can downvote me.
The interface refresh was long overdue and looks great on my 5K iMac. It's a well thought out evolution and not a radical Windows 8 type of disastrous revolution. It's still a Mac!
Icons have finally a consistent shape instead of the "round/squared/sometimes tilted and sometimes not tilted" mess of previous OS-es.
Mac OS Catalina's interface looked worn out, after the constant 'dumbing down' of the Aqua interface that was started with Yosemite.
I like that Maps, iMessage and Photos are much more up to speed with its iOS counterparts, although there are apps that need some work (I'm looking at you, Music!)
So despite some bugs here and there (that were mostly fixed in 11.1 for me) I LOVE Big Sur and I am glad Apple has polished its OS.
Okay, now you can downvote me.
Upvote from me, @DinkThifferent. Agree with everything you said, especially now on my M1 MBA. Things seem good and clean, although Music is fundamentally cumbersome and counterintuitive (library, Store, etc.).
Pushing that ball down the field, I'll risk a downvote myself and say I miss the days before they separated Music, Podcasts, and Video into separate apps.
Pushing that ball down the field, I'll risk a downvote myself and say I miss the days before they separated Music, Podcasts, and Video into separate apps.
Yes. I miss the days where I could just manage my iPhone via iTunes and didn't have to go searching on Finder.
Kernel panics are usually caused by kernel extensions which are added by 3rd party software. Remove the kext and the panics usually go away hence why Apple is ditching them. Take Symantec EndPoint Protection, it protects your Mac by crashing it.
I finally decided to upgrade to Big Sur this week to try and address the ongoing battles between my Bluetooth keyboard, mouse, and headset, and it seems to have helped.
A couple of annoying UI things, though. Calendar notifications no longer have snooze options for specific snooze durations, or for things like "until the start time of this event." Just a single, undifferentiated "snooze" which then pops up a few minutes later. SUPER annoying to lose that level of granularity over snoozing a notification.
Also, Do Not Disturb STILL doesn't have an option for "until the end of this event" the way iOS does. Why would Apple not work toward more feature parity in simple and useful ways like this? Having DND activated across ALL devices connected to an Apple ID would be a really amazing option as well.
A couple of annoying UI things, though. Calendar notifications no longer have snooze options for specific snooze durations, or for things like "until the start time of this event." Just a single, undifferentiated "snooze" which then pops up a few minutes later. SUPER annoying to lose that level of granularity over snoozing a notification.
Also, Do Not Disturb STILL doesn't have an option for "until the end of this event" the way iOS does. Why would Apple not work toward more feature parity in simple and useful ways like this? Having DND activated across ALL devices connected to an Apple ID would be a really amazing option as well.
Personally I am glad that Apple is adding more padding to the toolbar. Yosemite+ toolbars was a stupid fad taken from GNOME, and counter-UX too. I was tired of chasing free pixels between toolbar buttons to be able to move windows around.
Agree with all the comments praising the Big Sur interface. This revamp was long overdue (I am still on Catalina though, waiting for the 4th point release).
Agree with all the comments praising the Big Sur interface. This revamp was long overdue (I am still on Catalina though, waiting for the 4th point release).
The sudo that ships with RC3 appears to still be vulnerable. It would be weird if they released 11.2 final with a known vulnerability.
ugggggghhhhhhhh. so many bugs. but maybe just maybe they were lazy enough to fix it and not update the build number.
We've had many small bug fixes for MacOS over the years that were a few hundred megabytes in size. We see minor updates to iOS all the time being small downloads of 100MB. Which is why 3GB download suggests a major amount of stuff had to be fixed in what could have been the final release. Why were they even considering calling it a release candidate in the first place?
I'm also kinda salty because nowhere in that 3GB does it fix iCloud tabs not working at all on my M1. They have never worked since day 1 and my intel Macs like to show me open tabs from weeks ago.
The iCloud tabs issue has been going on for a long time. I have an MBP 12,1 (running Catalina), an even older iMac and IPad, and iCloud tabs are usually not shown, occasionally shown from a week ago, but then the out of date ones will suddenly disappear if I close Safari on another device. Not a problem new with Big Sur -- just another grumble.
Well, that's the thing,... I really do not connect to anything dodgy. Usually, I keep 20-25 tabs open, mostly work-related things like company portal, G suite, Youtube, and sometimes Netflix. And it keeps crashing on average two times a day. Not sure if that came with Big Sur or the new Safari, as I updated them both around the same time.
Er ... you DO realize that the Qualys security researchers who discovered the bug in sudo (CVE-2021-3156) say it was first introduced in July 2011; and it impacts all versions of sudo from 1.8.2 to 1.8.31p2 and 1.9.0 through 1.9.5p1 on all unix-like operating systems (like Linux, etc). I'd be suprised if Apple is just now becoming concerned.
Furthermore, an attacker would need local access to a vulnerable system in order to exploit the vulnerability. In many instances, this would mitigate the seriousness of the flaw because an adversary that already has access to a system can do a lot of damage with that access.
Ohh they should be concerned, every major Linux distro has already released a patched version of sudo.
It might not be a RCE but anything allowing privilege escalation to root is a serious vector of attack.
For sure Apple should be concerned; I’m suggesting that they have known that the patch (1.9.5p2) is now available as you have pointed out. Let’s hope they serve it out or include it in the final release of 11.2. In the meantime all admins need to be careful how they dole out sudo privileges to local users. Cheers!
My magic mouse 2 is much better with this release. I was running a RSSI close to 59dBm and with this release, it is down to 46-49 dBm. I haven't had it drop yet.
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