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I suggest that we agree to disagree... it seems that everyone is so focused on using my statement in relation to the betas alone, not accounting previous public releases, that it makes no sense to argue.
Well you did post it in a beta thread...
seconded. you're in a beta thread. if you are discussing another topic, we can let the mods handle your off topic tirades. find an appropriate thread to air your grievances or visit http://www.apple.com/feedback/ and tell Apple because the rest of us don't care to hear your opinion in this thread.
 
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seconded. you're in a beta thread. if you are discussing another topic, we can let the mods handle your off topic tirades. find an appropriate thread to air your grievances or visit http://www.apple.com/feedback/ and tell Apple because the rest of us don't care to hear your opinion in this thread.

LOL, easy boy. It seems the Apple cult boys forgot their manners...
I am out of this...
 
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Yes you can.

1) Unpair the watch from your phone
2) Dump your phone from iOS 9 to 8.4
3) Restore phone with known watch os backup
4) Re-pair Watch to iOS 8.4 device
5) when it pop ups the backups available - restore the iOS 8 / Watch OS 1.0 backup.

Source; It worked for me.
I've tried that before, the iPhone just tells you that it's out of date for the watchOS version that's on the watch, it has never worked like that, from what I've seen at least. I could be wrong, and I am not trying to say you are, I am just saying that it's never seemed to work like that for me.
 
So if you go to a doctor and he/she misdiagnoses you, would you say that the quality of medical care has matured because we know more diseases now, hence it's OK to be misdiagnosed?

Apple has > $400 billion in their pockets. There is no excuse for rookie mistakes like that. They can hire all the talent in the world if they wanted to, to make sure major mistakes don't happen, yet major mistakes continue to happen.

Do you really think that a higher number on programmers (more programmers) will lead to a better (more enhanced) coding?

Ähm... NO.

Your Analogy doesn't work either.
 
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Anyone else having issues signing into iCloud for the watch when re-pairing? I upgraded to beta 3 on both iOS and watchOS and can't sign in through the watch app. I keep getting "There was a problem connecting to the server." Please help!
 
So if you go to a doctor and he/she misdiagnoses you, would you say that the quality of medical care has matured because we know more diseases now, hence it's OK to be misdiagnosed?

Apple has > $400 billion in their pockets. There is no excuse for rookie mistakes like that. They can hire all the talent in the world if they wanted to, to make sure major mistakes don't happen, yet major mistakes continue to happen.
I have a book for you http://www.amazon.com/Mythical-Man-...1436385563&sr=8-1&keywords=mythical+man+month

Take it from a software engineer. Apple having 400 billion in the bank does not mean they are immune to mistakes. Also more programmers does not mean better software, if anything it decreases quality.
 
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So if you go to a doctor and he/she misdiagnoses you, would you say that the quality of medical care has matured because we know more diseases now, hence it's OK to be misdiagnosed?

If you go to a BETA doctor (i.e. to save money, you go to a student doctor currently in medical school), then yes - you might be misdiagnosed. And you should expect that possibility.
 
Heart-rate monitoring seems to be more accurate. This may have been the case before, but the pulsing of the heart icon (in glances) matches my actual heart rate nearly perfectly (when pressing finger on neck).

Also, when on the "home screen", regardless of if the clock app is centered or not, pressing the crown brings back the clock app. it previously required up to two presses to get there.

Camera remote is also working with minimal delay. In beta 2 there was a several-second delay and extremely low frame rate. Calendar events also seem to be loading properly from the stock calendar app on iPhone without having to open the iPhone app for new events to sync.
 
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Anyone else having problems with the watch app on the phone saying "Resume download when connected to Wifi" even though I am connected to Wifi?
 
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Anyone else having problems with the watch app on the phone saying "Resume download when connected to Wifi" even though I am connected to Wifi?
Currently having the same issue. Going to try and restart my devices.
 
Anyone else having problems with the watch app on the phone saying "Resume download when connected to Wifi" even though I am connected to Wifi?
Resumed on it's own somehow without rebooting. I think just being patient is the plan of action I'm going to take.
 
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Anyone else having issues signing into iCloud for the watch when re-pairing? I upgraded to beta 3 on both iOS and watchOS and can't sign in through the watch app. I keep getting "There was a problem connecting to the server." Please help!

I am having the same issue. I wiped my iPhone and my watch and trying to setup my watch now and it says, "Could Not Sign In, There was a problem connecting to the server."
 
it shows me that about an 1 hour to download is remaining for 2 hours now. I hope it will download soon, because I want to get rid off the battery issue...
 
I am having the same issue. I wiped my iPhone and my watch and trying to setup my watch now and it says, "Could Not Sign In, There was a problem connecting to the server."

Those of you having issues setting up the new beta. On your iPhone sign out of iMessage ( Settings > Messages > Send & Recieve). Once this is done you will be able to upgrade the beta software.

Apple says to do this in the beta notes.

  • Pairing iOS 9 beta 3 with watchOS 2 beta 1 or 2 requires you to sign out of your AppleID in Messages prior to pairing and to skip iCloud sign-in during pairing. Pairing with watchOS 2 beta 3 and WatchOS 1 is not impacted.

  • Tapping Cancel does not work in the iForgot work flows in Watch Setup Assistant
 
Those of you having issues setting up the new beta. On your iPhone sign out of iMessage ( Settings > Messages > Send & Recieve). Once this is done you will be able to upgrade the beta software.

Apple says to do this in the beta notes.

  • Pairing iOS 9 beta 3 with watchOS 2 beta 1 or 2 requires you to sign out of your AppleID in Messages prior to pairing and to skip iCloud sign-in during pairing. Pairing with watchOS 2 beta 3 and WatchOS 1 is not impacted.

  • Tapping Cancel does not work in the iForgot work flows in Watch Setup Assistant
Ah yes! That did it. Typical newbie, I didn't read the notes!!
 
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B3 working very nicely.

Weather is now getting the correct location and app icons are appearing correctly. I'm also getting a better loading time with native apps.

Noticed there's a Beats 1 option in the music app too.
 

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Well I ignored the initial "don't do it" warnings.

And I think I'm glad I did because beta 3 is an absolute treat so far. No issues to report yet.

Some cool new touches for the Music app:
 

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