I think he meant an actual application that runs on your computer and that can handle payment / licensing etc... MacUpdate is far from being an "appstore"
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I think he meant an actual application that runs on your computer and that can handle payment / licensing etc... MacUpdate is far from being an "appstore"
Actually it is
There are two flavors of OS X.
1. Mac OS X
2. iPhone OS
Only in Apple marketing terms. And that way you'd have to include OS X Server as the third flavour.
But in terms of the system, iPhone OS is related to OS X only as much as Ubuntu is related to the embedded Linux running on a router.
Of course I'm aware of prior mobile devices such before Apple. Years back I had a Psion and numerous smartphones.
I fully understand what you are saying but you are not understanding my point.
EDIT: At the moment, you are thinking too high level, of course there are UI and other concerns.. but...
"Mobile OS is just another computing platform, when the day is done, all things considered."
This is off topic to the story, please PM me if you want to continue this.
I fully understand what you are saying but you are not understanding my point.
EDIT: At the moment, you are thinking too high level, of course there are UI and other concerns.. but...
"Mobile OS is just another computing platform, when the day is done, all things considered."
This is off topic to the story, please PM me if you want to continue this.
We will not see provisioning profiles and signed apps and a locked down OS X. Unless Apple is planning on exiting some very large software markets.
They'd have to get rid of Java, so the enterprise development world will exclude Macs as a workstation and server choice.
They'd have to radically alter large portions of the Unix subsystem. There could be no more Terminal, because they would have to prevent any shell scripts from executing.
X11 would have to go away, as would be the ability to install any open source libraries or toolkits.
Macs would no longer be used in research or academia.
Web development is out.
There's a lot more software out there than just consumer desktop apps and games. A locked down platform hands a major victory over to other existing platforms.
They'd have to get rid of Java, so the enterprise development world will exclude Macs as a workstation and server choice.
They'd have to radically alter large portions of the Unix subsystem. There could be no more Terminal, because they would have to prevent any shell scripts from executing.
X11 would have to go away, as would be the ability to install any open source libraries or toolkits.
Macs would no longer be used in research or academia.
Web development is out.
There's a lot more software out there than just consumer desktop apps and games. A locked down platform hands a major victory over to other existing platforms.
Something that I've heard is that Mac OS X client has all the functionality of Server, but Server just has pretty GUI apps to control the server functions. I could be totally wrong, so don't quote me on that.
Something I would like is a single combined software install, removal, update, & app store app with the ability to use other apps (bold so people read it & not just what comes before). Here are the basic functions explained:
-Install: same thing as Installer.app
-Removal: looks up all the apps you have, see where all their files are, etc. & deletes everything. Give an option to delete one app in a suite & not delete a file that's shared by multiple apps
-Update: updates Apple software as well as 3rd party software. Lets you not have to hunt around to see if there's an update for your app.
-App store: a central location to buy Apple & 3rd party apps. Include an option to buy software for someone else. Also, have an option to show all apps, only apps where you meet the minimum requirements & only show apps where you meet the recommended requirements. And make it easily searchable & have different categories (ie Lifestyle, Health, Education, Games, etc.).
Though I want to be able to get my software from somewhere else, too.
end of the apple computer on the horizon
This looks to my eyes that Apple is really getting out of the computer business. They are all about development for the iPhone and iPad. The writing was on the wall when they took computer out of the corporate name - then Steve saying - "we are a mobile company" and now the reduced focus on the "desktop" developer. Apple could have simply added this new level and kept the other levels. The hardware discount was very important to keeping the latest hardware in the shop when the "other guys"can build their own box. Very sad.
This looks to my eyes that Apple is really getting out of the computer business. They are all about development for the iPhone and iPad. The writing was on the wall when they took computer out of the corporate name - then Steve saying - "we are a mobile company" and now the reduced focus on the "desktop" developer. Apple could have simply added this new level and kept the other levels. The hardware discount was very important to keeping the latest hardware in the shop when the "other guys"can build their own box. Very sad.
Given the way Apple has been behaving lately, I can understand this conclusion jumping. However, I agree with some posters here; if Apple did this they'd basically be destroying the OS X platform. So I doubt they would.
I would have no qualm about jumping ship to Linux or Windows if Apple did this. I'm sure many other people here feel the same way. The main reason I don't have an iPhone is because it's a closed platform.
I can't compromise my values *that* far. Putting up with OS X running on only certain hardware is bad enough.
I sure hope all that doesn't happen. Yet with so much focus on the iPhone, iPad & consumer electronics (and lack of it on its Pro stuff), I fear Apple's might go down this dark path. Remember: Apple officially took "Computer" out of its name!
I hope Apple will NOT create a Mac App Store. I don't know if you guys remember, but it was easy to make money on the App Store. Many people heard about it and they decided to became programmers. They created fart, burp and other apps that does nothing. Result: serious developers can't make money any more because there are too many fart apps being released everyday, so they lost visibility. It got hard to have your app reviewed too. There's also too many competition from people who don't even take development seriously. Apple, please don't **** it up.
and mass dump os mac os when they move to a iphone like locked app store that apple takes a 30% cut / makes you pay $99 year for free software and has censorship as well.
get ready to plan for jail braking.
Who cares about the hardware discounts anymore when you're paying only 20% as much?
Surely whatever you saved on the hardware discounts will be saved on the membership in short order...
Considering how many Macs I see around campus every day, I'm not sure whether to believe anyone on this.
Their computers are selling like hot cakes. Why shut down such an obvious revenue stream? Aren't Mac sales over half of the company's revenue?
The portend of doom will be if the name of the OS changes. They won't be able to call it Mac OS X anymore - it would be extremely confusing:
Welcome to OS X 10.7 - Software compatibility guide:
Mac OS 10.7 is currently compatible with the following 10.6, 10.5, and 10.4 software:
- None
Wait... OK let's say the new release of OS X (10.7 Lynx/Lion/Liger/Whatever) wouldn't go for $39 like Snowy did, but instead would have the regular $129 price tag.
Wouldn't this mean that you could, instead of buying 10.7 for $129 when it comes out, pay for the new Dev Program for $99 and download the 10.7 Golden Master for free (and also get the regular software updates when they get released) and thus get 10.7 for only $99!
Wouldn't this mean that you could, instead of buying 10.7 for $129 when it comes out, pay for the new Dev Program for $99 and download the 10.7 Golden Master for free (and also get the regular software updates when they get released) and thus get 10.7 for only $99!
Right, I wasn't stating it was a bad thing, just stating something that I didn't see anyone else comment on -- it seems to be just a re-branded, upgraded "Student Developer" program that is available to all.
Looks like war with Android and companies already are taking sides. Adobe takes shot with an Android version of Photoshop!
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20000130-264.html?tag=newsEditorsPicksArea.0
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20000130-264.html?tag=newsEditorsPicksArea.0
Considering how many Macs I see around campus every day, I'm not sure whether to believe anyone on this.
Their computers are selling like hot cakes. Why shut down such an obvious revenue stream? Aren't Mac sales over half of the company's revenue?
Yes - but they are laptops - it is the desktop workstations that I fear are being cut loose - I have a laptop but spend most of my time at the workstation. Apple has only updated the monitor which works with the laptop -the more I puzzle though Apple recent moves the more it is seems clear. And that developer hardware discount was substantial with a capital S.
That monitor works fine with the workstation. It's Displayport and will plug right into the newest Mac Pros.