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Apple Seeks Bankruptcy Court's Blessing to Sue Kodak over Patents
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Um, yes they have.
Kodak creates printers, point-and-shoot cameras, pocket cameras(my favorite of them all), and photo frames.
Polaroid has made new products in the last 10 years too.
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What use is suing a bankrupt company?
What use is suing a bankrupt company?
I like the obsequious "abundance of caution" comment. It conjures an image of lawyers with greasy comb-overs and horn rimmed spectacles.
This is just going to get washed by in this debate. But I truly believe, too, that Kodak is a company with a long standing GOOD reputation/name. I know they may hold SOME patents that are worth something to someone (if this sentience really makes sense). I could see Apple incorporating Kodak into their branding somehow. Maybe like Siri (which apple hung onto the name from a purchase).
I know a whole generation has grown up now not knowing who Kodak is and what made them so big, so maybe I am just that old and want to hold on to nostalgia.
So here is a question: What could Apple do with the Kodak name, if they owned it?
So Kodak goes bankrupt because they created digital camera technology but let other companies like Canon take the market share because they thought their biz was film sales.
Now, Apple wants to sue for rights to a camera that was built by Kodak? I like Kodak, I hope they are able to survive and those in Rochester keep their jobs, but...how many of us are going to run out to buy this 90's technology?
Is there technology in this 90's product that is critical to Apple? I read this garbage from Apple and I wonder this: "How do we know the exact moment that Apple actually becomes big brother?" More and more I think that moment is close.
Now, Apple wants to sue for rights to a camera that was built by Kodak? I like Kodak, I hope they are able to survive and those in Rochester keep their jobs, but...how many of us are going to run out to buy this 90's technology?
Is there technology in this 90's product that is critical to Apple? I read this garbage from Apple and I wonder this: "How do we know the exact moment that Apple actually becomes big brother?" More and more I think that moment is close.
I realize Apple needs to actively protect its IP, but to sue a company that'll be out of business within the year over patents from 15+ years ago is pretty lame.
"Doing it just to say we did it" is a pretty weak move on Apple's part. I hope it was the patent lawyers and not Tim Cook that advised this course of action.
"Doing it just to say we did it" is a pretty weak move on Apple's part. I hope it was the patent lawyers and not Tim Cook that advised this course of action.
That's what happens when a corporation becomes so popular and powerful it becomes a cult. I like Mac's, have for over a decade before every fashionista owned an iPhone, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with everything they do. It's when we become blind in our own faith that we lose sight of the big picture (and yes, there were a lot of intended puns in that sentence)
Do you have a source for this claim? In a US bankruptcy proceeding, employees' salary and pension claims are senior to all other debts. Unless you can point to some specific evidence to the contrary, it is unlikely that this patent would need to be used to pay off pensions.
Yeah, I'll have the family I grew up next to, whom I consider to be my second family, contact you. Their father was a Kodak engineer for over 30 years, and he and his wife have been retired for over 5. Kodak is so broke they are cutting pensions and salaries. Claims made on this thread that Kodak is attempting to sell patents to stay in business are dead wrong. They are done. They are attempting to sell off what they can just to cover the serious losses that have been effecting them for well over a decade.
Please, I really do not want to get into a pissing contest about this, it's hard enough seeing people I care about worry about their future and it's saddening to know that some people are not fully informed by the media as to the severity of this situation. I've stated enough, and I'll leave the discussion with that much. I truly hope that the people effected by this bankruptcy survive through it, it breaks my heart to know that someone in their 70's who had worked very hard to enjoy retirement may have to find work again.
I'm not sure why they didn't simply wait this one out. Kodak sues them. They delay until Kodak goes away. That company simply isn't coming back. Looking even beyond sales at proofing systems, medium format digital camera sensors, dslrs, etc. they've been decimated from every possible angle. It's pretty bad.
Another day yet another patent lawsuit, it's becoming as regular as the weather report!!
Only this one REALLY has a sense of nasty snideness from Apple about it, giving the fact Kodak has gone or is going bust! That's it Apple, you make them pay you more millions, but who pays for it? The administrators? The business?
VERY Bad Apples I think not impressed one tiny bit by them, Kodak is gone yet they STILL have to sue them? For no gain what so ever, well apart from some more money cause they REALLY need that!!
It does start to look as though Apple has lost the plot, they have began to embed suing as part of there culture. And it's not as though it's not worrying enough to see the members of Apples leadership team that have left the company lately, it's like Steve's gone, we're off as this companies going one way...
Only this one REALLY has a sense of nasty snideness from Apple about it, giving the fact Kodak has gone or is going bust! That's it Apple, you make them pay you more millions, but who pays for it? The administrators? The business?
VERY Bad Apples I think not impressed one tiny bit by them, Kodak is gone yet they STILL have to sue them? For no gain what so ever, well apart from some more money cause they REALLY need that!!
It does start to look as though Apple has lost the plot, they have began to embed suing as part of there culture. And it's not as though it's not worrying enough to see the members of Apples leadership team that have left the company lately, it's like Steve's gone, we're off as this companies going one way...
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Theres nothing like being a predatorial vulture, creepily hanging around ready to pick over the remains of a dying carcas....
Anyone else getting tired of all the law suits Apple seems to get embroiled in over last couple of years. We hear of more lawsuits than product these days.
Anyone else getting tired of all the law suits Apple seems to get embroiled in over last couple of years. We hear of more lawsuits than product these days.
To be honest, somewhat of a national embarrassment with all of the lawsuits and allegations of supporting poor labor conditions.
Everything Apple does is now considered dirty. Apple is the richest company on this planet and they are using their money for legalized mob tactics. Their lawyers are now hired goons attacking company after company with lawsuits; no different from street gangsters wanting to get their weekly cut for protection. Tim Cook is the freaking Don Coreone that only answers when politicians come a knocking at the door.
Apple is no longer that lovable underdog. Rot in hell Apple!!!
Apple is no longer that lovable underdog. Rot in hell Apple!!!
Linux is as annoying as @#$%. It's virus-free and kinda cool in some ways, but I prefer even Windows to it.
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Ragemax much? I blame the whole US civil lawsuit system. It's ridiculous. Apple has been suing for a long time actually, but they haven't been winning until recently (they had very good reason to sue MS in 1985, but they lost because MS was so big).
Wait, what? I thought Microsoft has been going around to Android OEM's and threatening them if they don't agree to pay them a patent licensing fee? As well, Microsoft appears to have just as many issues as Apple:
Seems Kodak was kicking Apple while falling. Groundfighting can be very effective, and opponents do well to not relax while the other takes on a deceptively powerful position.
everyone is saying apple is mean
fact is when this camera was developed Kodak had more money than apple. They eventually used apple technology to sell their own products and that was one of the reasons apple was in such a bad financial position back then. Everyone just assumed apple was going to roll over and die and other companies were going to gobble up the pieces. The vultures were waiting.
Now that apple is in a great position they just want their intellectual rights affirmed on a product they helped invent. Was marketed with the apple name then used by every other digital camera manufacturer out there. Why should Apple allow Kodak to risk apple property to try and save a sinking ship? To put it simply. They are basically Pawning borrowed items to pay the rent.
fact is when this camera was developed Kodak had more money than apple. They eventually used apple technology to sell their own products and that was one of the reasons apple was in such a bad financial position back then. Everyone just assumed apple was going to roll over and die and other companies were going to gobble up the pieces. The vultures were waiting.
Now that apple is in a great position they just want their intellectual rights affirmed on a product they helped invent. Was marketed with the apple name then used by every other digital camera manufacturer out there. Why should Apple allow Kodak to risk apple property to try and save a sinking ship? To put it simply. They are basically Pawning borrowed items to pay the rent.
If you read from the previous story: https://www.macrumors.com/2012/01/10/kodak-files-new-patent-infringement-lawsuits-against-apple-and-htc/, Kodak did try and suck off of Apple's tit first. Guess Apple is out for revenge. lol
Seriously? Cause you know that this is the only patent that Kodak owns, what was I thinking?
http://stks.freshpatents.com/EK-sym.php