Apple Seeks Bankruptcy Court's Blessing to Sue Kodak over Patents

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    With Kodak having filed last-minute patent lawsuits against Apple and HTC as it was heading into bankruptcy last month, Bloomberg reports that Apple is looking to assert itself against the pioneering photography company with a new lawsuit alleging infringement of Apple-held patents.


    While Apple says in its filing with the bankruptcy court overseeing Kodak's case that it is not required to seek approval for a lawsuit, Apple notes that it is requesting the court's blessing "out of an abundance of caution".
    In a separate case, Apple has been contending that it is the rightful owner of a patent currently held by Kodak. Apple claims that through its partnership with Kodak to produce QuickTake digital cameras during the mid-1990s, Kodak misappropriated intellectual property involved in the project and patented it for itself.


    Apple QuickTake 100, manufactured by Kodak (Source: Time)
    Apple last month filed a petition with Kodak's bankruptcy court requesting that Kodak not be permitted to use the disputed patent to secure loans supporting the company's restructuring until ownership of the patent is resolved. The U.S. International Trade Commission has preliminarily rejected Apple's ownership claims, but the case and a parallel federal lawsuit remain pending.

    Article Link: Apple Seeks Bankruptcy Court's Blessing to Sue Kodak over Patents
  2. Hayman1995 macrumors newbie

    Aug 18, 2010
  3. TSE macrumors 68030

    Jun 25, 2007
    St. Paul, Minnesota
  4. daverso macrumors regular

    Sep 5, 2007
    didn't Tim Cook just say they had a more cash than they need, or something like that?
  5. decimortis macrumors 6502a


    Aug 28, 2007
    I was going to post those exact 5 words.

  6. DerekRod macrumors 6502a


    Jan 18, 2012
    Lets sue a dying corp.Lets do it for the LULZ
  7. wikus macrumors 68000


    Jun 1, 2011
    Planet earth.
    That is low.

    I thought with the absence of steve jobs apple would become less of a douchey company, but its actually gotten worse.

    nice to see apple turn into everything it was against.

  8. justanothernerd macrumors member

    Apr 25, 2008
    It makes sense to me -- Apple has to always maintain a strong image that they take patent litigation seriously, no matter the company involved. If other companies get the idea that they can sue apple and apple won't fight back because they have "more cash than they need", it would become a much bigger problem for them. My guess is that this is as much a defensive move as it is an offensive one.
  9. spazzcat macrumors 68020


    Jun 29, 2007
    They don't have the right to counter sue them just because they are in bankruptcy? We all know Apple with sue to protect their IP.
  10. allmIne macrumors 6502a


    Sep 17, 2008
    United Kingdom
    It's as well most consumers don't give a toss about this sort of thing.

    Apple would have went down in many estimations a long time ago.
  11. guzhogi macrumors 68030


    Aug 31, 2003
    Wherever my feet take me…
    At this point, why not just buy the patents out right? Note: honest question as I don't know how much they go for.
  12. Spock macrumors 68000


    Jan 6, 2002
    Apple should just buyout Kodak, discontinue the entire line, consume all patents and sell the name. Done.
  13. HBOC macrumors 68020

    Oct 14, 2008
    My first reaction :)

    This does make sense. Just because they (Kodak) filed bankruptcy doesn't negate anything.
  14. TrentS, Feb 15, 2012
    Last edited: Feb 15, 2012

    TrentS macrumors 6502


    Sep 24, 2011
    Overland Park, Kansas
    Law Suits

    Dang, I should have studied to become a patent attorney.

  15. spazzcat macrumors 68020


    Jun 29, 2007
    If the courts liquidate them, Apple will have a chance to do that, until then Apple can't just buy them.
  16. 840quadra Moderator


    Staff Member

    Feb 1, 2005
    Twin Cities Minnesota
    It comes to the point where I wonder if the PR department at Apple is starting to ask for some of these Lawsuits to stop. I understand that protecting the IP is definitely important, however are they factoring in the potential cost to their public image?
  17. 3282868 macrumors 603

    Jan 8, 2009
    How many lawsuits is AAPL currently juggling??? This is absurd. Having been from Rochester, NY I can tell you that the effects of Kodak's closing is horrendous on an already depressed economy. It's business, certainly, but why didn't AAPL sue before if this was an issue? Why now? Why at all???
  18. spazzcat macrumors 68020


    Jun 29, 2007
    I guess you didn't see their results last quarter? I would say 99% of their customers don't know or care about lawsuits...
  19. lilsoccakid74 macrumors 6502

    Apr 13, 2010
    As a student who has lived his whole life in Rochester NY, location of Kodaks roots, it is sad to see this. While growing up, over half of my friends parents worked at Kodak, and my father was a Sr. Process Development Engineer for 30 years. We are the first generation from Rochester who won't be able to rely on Kodak for a career. :(

    Let them be apple.
  20. gnasher729 macrumors P6


    Nov 25, 2005
    I think Kodak has been suing Apple in the past, and is trying to use bankruptcy protection to avoid being countersued. In addition, if Apple does actually have the rights to this patent, then allowing Kodak to borrow money against the value of the patent, or to sell it, would create a really messy situation.
  21. spazzcat macrumors 68020


    Jun 29, 2007
    Has Kodak really created anything in the last 10 years???
  22. jkichline macrumors 6502

    Aug 25, 2010
    The reason...

    The reason why Apple is asking if they can sue is because Kodak, while in bankruptcy, is still suing Apple. If you were concerned about your financial affairs, you wouldn't continue an expensive legal battle and Apple needs to defend it's patents regardless. It's just that Apple is asking if that's ok today so they are at least giving Kodak a chance to back off since they are in bankruptcy.
  23. Sofabutt macrumors member

    Oct 29, 2007
    Apple is ******** on its own good reputation.

    I left microsofts windows years ago for the same bad reputation apple is earning for itself nowadays.

    Looks like the future is Linux or qnx
  24. dr01dy macrumors member

    May 3, 2007
  25. emaja macrumors 68000

    May 3, 2005
    Chicago, IL
    Can we change the name of this website to ""?

    With all the litigation, I feel like it at least deserves its own sub-forum or tab at the top.


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