There's no way for them to make the USB-C to USB adapter smaller? Or just more elegant. I think people would be less upset if it was smaller and stayed at $9.
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Well I owned a touchbar MBP, used it for a month and sold it after 2. Junk. Gone back to using my fully loaded 2014 15" MBP. Each to their own.
I would really like if they can release a 15 inch pro without that touch bar and use that extra space for slightly bigger battery. Drop the price to affordable levels.
Still we do not have the disaggregated data of Apple's laptop sales.
We do not know, and probably never will, how many:
- new 2015 MB;
- refurbished 2015 MB;
- new 2016 rMBP,
- new 2016 non TB base 15" rMBP (essentially a 2015 rMBP),
- refurbished 2015.
were sold.
We do not know, and probably never will, how many:
- new 2015 MB;
- refurbished 2015 MB;
- new 2016 rMBP,
- new 2016 non TB base 15" rMBP (essentially a 2015 rMBP),
- refurbished 2015.
were sold.
The folks at BestBuy told me they're not selling the new models, but that everybody's buying the previous model.
Me for one, and other tbMBP "apologists" on the forums.
This, just because a number of people on this particular forum are not a fan/completely dislike the new MacBook Pro with Touch Bar doesn't mean that general consumers aren't happy with it. People I know who have brought one are really happy and say it's the best laptop they have owned, my point being that just because it maybe not be liked on this forum doesn't mean that those people represent the overall consumer population.
Yeah, I had to reread that sentence several times to make sure I was reading it right. I thought most consumers, especially those in the "pro" market, were disappointed by the new MBP.
You kinda have to be happy with it because you really don't have much choice.
I'd love your input on why the new MBP was junk. I'm considering purchasing one this fall for research computing but if you're happier with your two year old MBP, I'd like to know why. I'd love to save some money and just buy an older MBP.
Or MBAs.
The tbMBPs must be selling below expectations for Apple to be constantly trying to lift them up in its sales reports.
My local Apple Store told me the MBA is its best-selling laptop.
Part of the reason I chose an SE over a 7 was because the latter lacked a headphone jack.
And then there's someone like me who purchased an iPhone 7 in part because it got rid of the headphone jack.
I try not to get tied to any particular technology and am happy to adopt new ways of doing things but that's just my personality (or maybe a short attention span).
And then there's someone like me who purchased an iPhone 7 in part because it got rid of the headphone jack.
Out of curiosity, why?
All the PC vendors update every two months and their sales fell, so...
Based on the sales jump, Apple did just that.
The significant increase in MacBook Pro revenues reported earlier is a clear sign the 2016 models are selling better than many on Macrumors forums wishes.
There are plenty of quality third-party adapters and cables.
When did apple say anything about changing the macbook pro? Their comments about pro versions of macs was directly due to the backlash and pro users leaving the mac pro desktop. The pushback could have been almost completely avoided if apple had just included one legacy USB port on the damn thing so users could avoid adapters.
What extra space? If they remove the touch bar they have to put the function keys back in and that would take up just as much space wouldn't it?
I guess the same way the nTB 13'' has a larger battery than the TB versions. I don't really know the insides of an Apple laptop that well, but I'm assuming there are some hardware things beneath the touchbar (unlike the function keys) that take up that space.
I enjoy new things. I see even minor changes like removing the headphone jack as Apple willing to try something new, even if it's a minor feature. There's not much wrong with 3.5mm jacks - they are good but just because they are good doesn't mean they are worth keeping forever. I don't hold to the adage of "If it's not broke, don't fix it." I think everything can be improved in some way. Maybe improvement isn't cost-effective or time-effective for some people but I appreciate efforts at it. Maybe removing the headphone jack is not not an improvement but it hasn't made my life any more difficult. The adapter is always plugged into my headphones (I have different sets - all <$15 - one for each of my computers and one for my iPhone). I use Bluetooth in my car. I'll switch over to wireless headphones at some point and then the connector is mainly moot.
I try not to tie myself to one particular technology. I use an iPhone because I like it's features and ecosystem. I used Android phones for years but switched a couple years ago to iOS and haven't looked back. But I'll go back to Android if some company made a phone I was interested enough in switching to (it would have to have good reliability, good resale value, and a great camera).
Hmm I didn't realize the battery was bigger. Just thought it has a more efficient (Lower power) processor. My bad.
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Same here, colleagues copy that. Annoying Touchbar destroys workflow.
Agreed. Also, how many of those "shipments" include replacement MBP's from defects?
Unless they disaggregate the data, it's all marketing spin. They made a mess of their entire line of "pro" products.....and they know it.
Sorry, but I know at least one person who owns one and is baffled by it. The ports she can't use, the touch bar that makes basic functions complicated, the spinning beach ball on the sign in screen. She and many like her who were at the "have to" stage of upgrading were basically forced to buy this turd or switch to a PC.
The touchbar is external but there is a component under the hood which takes up space and which is the reason there is a difference between battery sizes of 13 inch pro with and without touchbar. Sometimes if you don't know something, ask nicely. Don't know why everyone here feels that they can be impolite unnecessarily.
New MBP comes out, MacRumors audience seems to hate it in unison. Everybody convinces themselves that it will be a huge flop.
Q4 2016 numbers come out: actually, it seems to be a success.
MR audience reaction: Must be a fluke. Pent-up demand. Would have been so much higher still if the MBP wasn’t garbage.
Q1 2017 numbers come out: up and to the right again. Pretty clearly, this thing is a success.
MR audience reaction: Fake news! The breakdown must be different than what the analysts who spent actual time and money on this to collect hard data say! I hate it and everybody I don’t know does! I will just assume that shipments include massive returns! I have seen MBPs in the refurbished store, MUST be a flop! Some people really hate it so I assume that nobody can actually like it!
This thread is just a perfect example of how people will just make the wildest leaps of reasoning just to preserve their opinion when confronted with conflicting data.
Yeah, the MBP has some issues (but how many have zero issues and just don’t open their mouth about it?). Yeah, some people hate it (does not mean a lot of people might really like it).
Sure, a different model might have sold even more (how much more though? 15.4% increase is pretty massive).
Still. How hard is it to admit that clearly, your tastes and preferences might not line up with the overall market? The new MBP is a success, whether you like it or not.
Q4 2016 numbers come out: actually, it seems to be a success.
MR audience reaction: Must be a fluke. Pent-up demand. Would have been so much higher still if the MBP wasn’t garbage.
Q1 2017 numbers come out: up and to the right again. Pretty clearly, this thing is a success.
MR audience reaction: Fake news! The breakdown must be different than what the analysts who spent actual time and money on this to collect hard data say! I hate it and everybody I don’t know does! I will just assume that shipments include massive returns! I have seen MBPs in the refurbished store, MUST be a flop! Some people really hate it so I assume that nobody can actually like it!
This thread is just a perfect example of how people will just make the wildest leaps of reasoning just to preserve their opinion when confronted with conflicting data.
Yeah, the MBP has some issues (but how many have zero issues and just don’t open their mouth about it?). Yeah, some people hate it (does not mean a lot of people might really like it).
Sure, a different model might have sold even more (how much more though? 15.4% increase is pretty massive).
Still. How hard is it to admit that clearly, your tastes and preferences might not line up with the overall market? The new MBP is a success, whether you like it or not.