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You bet it does! I never said it didn't. Besides for extreme portability, bigger is always better. It's more pleasing on the eyes. I totally agree that it is a better device than the Touch, due it's size. I didn't call it a Touch. I called an oversized Touch. I'm not discounting the effects of the ipad being big. These effects are truly significant. So, BESIDES it being big (and hence, having a much larger screen), how is it different than a Touch?

Besides be portable how is a notebook any different than a desktop?
 
Let me see. Windows 7 has multi touch capability built in to the OS.

You are missing a major point.

It doesn't really matter how good W7 is. On a windows tablet the user will be running the TOUCH version of W7. And while W7 itself sounds like a good operating system, everything I've heard about the touch functionality has said that it has lots of issues. Some of it is optimized for touch, some for stylus, and some is just the same as using a mouse.

"Good OS with touch" isn't good enough. The OS needs WELL IMPLEMENTED touch functionality. And it sure doesn't sound like W7 has that yet.

It's also comical to hear claims that the iPad is a quick reaction to a product demo in January. Aside from the realities of product design and manufacture, the iPad was widely rumored before the HP slate demo and the HP demo was considered by many to be a thrown together attempt to preempt the iPad announcement.

Assuming for the sake of argument that the iPad was a reaction (which is ridiculous, but let's assume it), then it would mean that HP made an absolutely catastrophic strategic decision - to show off a product that is months away from shipping and let another company copy it faster than they can ship it themselves. But either way, HP comes out looking pretty inept.
 
Aside from the realities of product design and manufacture, the iPad was widely rumored before the HP slate demo and the HP demo was considered by many to be a thrown together attempt to preempt the iPad announcement.

Heh, and amazingly enough, I can walk into a store today and buy an iPad. HP Slate? Microsoft Courier? Not so much.

Other companies talk about products they may or may not be working on. Apple actually ships them.
 
some guy felt the need to bring his new iPad to church yesterday and have it out during Easter service.

It looks like a big iPhone with no phone parts.

It seemed pretty obvious that he brought it to get some attention, just sitting there playing with safari during the sermon. People were noticing, but I don't think anyone was like "wow, i really want one of those" they were just sort of laughing at this guy for trying so hard to be cool in public.

I noticed his face glowing while he was looking down because it was dark and his screen was bright. People wouldn't bring a laptop into service, so what was he thinking? It honestly looked a bit awkward to use.

i guess the ipad has found its target market. "look at me" douche-bags.

I quite agree, this is where I have a problem with people. I'll pull out my iPod occasionally to look something up in the middle of something like this, but even with the tiny device I feel like someone will look at me and think what you said. So I try to limit it. I certainly wouldn't want to use an iPad or laptop in such a way.
 
Haha I had mines at the table during Easter dinner! My wife said I was like a 2 year old that carries his new toy around everywhere after Christmas. :eek:

But then I wake up at 3am this morning and she's using it to read books! I might have to get a 3G one if she becomes too attached...

The iPad is going to have legs by word of mouth just like the iPhone.

My wife insisted she didn't want one and she is now at the apple store buying one for herself.

As to the haters. If you don't like it, don't buy it. If you are happy with your net book, keep it. If you think complaining on macrumors will make you feel better, keep posting, but the iPad will sell itself.

I could care less what is best for you, and I don't care what you think of me for owning an iPad. So far the ipad does what I need it to do very elegantly.
 
Other companies talk about products they may or may not be working on. Apple actually ships them.

This. The pace at which Apple has been putting great products directly into the hands of customers has been blistering.

You can actually *see* the results of Apple's R&D budget.
 
Apple announced this morning that they had sold over 300,000 iPads on the first day. The sales included deliveries of pre-ordered iPads as well as direct sales at apple Retail Stores.

1)This is contradictory...Presales orders have been taken for more than 2 weeks. Last time I checked, "2 weeks" does not equal "first day". This advertisement of sales is mileading (although it's nice that Apple sold 300,000 WITHIN A FEW WEEKS.

2)How many were purchases by developers? You know...all the developers out there that weren't allowed to have an iPad to test their apps. I'd say at least 50,000 of these purchases were by Developers...being at $500, developers likely bought 2...1 for complete testing and 1 for QA or Production or something.


Glad that Apple has sold quite a few iPads but I think this news is a littttttttle bit twisted.

-Eric
 
I'm not currently in the market for an ipad. Perhaps when I try one I'll change my mind. Primarily I am interested in one as an ereader.

I was thinking though that for $499 it is almost like getting a quality photo frame that can cost over $100 but with many more capabilities.

So if you were to upgrade to a new ipad in a year or two after buying this version, think of it as a nice digital photo frame you can leave on an end table in your house. It can be picked up anytime to read a book or play a game. Instead of having a computer available for guests, they can pick up the ipad.

Inspired by your post I found the Sony DPF-V1000N:

"High quality digital photo frame. Large, high resolution 10-inch Wide LCD, high capacity 1GB memory, wide range of view modes, auto image touch-up and HD output." Sells for £199. I'm not saying it isn't a nice photo frame, it probably looks better than the iPad because the iPad needs a shape that can be held and carried around, but I expect the cheapest iPad to sell for under £400, so for £200 more you get a much more powerful photo frame (16 GB storage for photos instead of 1 GB) and you have a computer when you need one.
 
For the record, I didn't get my UPS-delivered iPad until around 4:30pm PT on Saturday. The driver told me that mine was the last one to be delivered by her, that she had 80 deliveries of iPads for the day and that she was one of 4 drivers covering the city of Arcadia, CA - a town with the population of around 50,000 people.
 
And, no, I won't be buying one. I don't believe the tablet is the future of anything at this point because the large majority of people want a physical keyboard. Why get a tablet when I have a perfectly good compact Sony Vaio laptop with a BD player, 4GB or memory, a large HDD, and a Core i5 processor? All that for $1200 and I can actually do real work AND consume information on it.
Your assumption is that there are more people like you, and fewer people who use their laptops for simple junk. You are probably incorrect. There are likely more people that don't need this kind of power for their portable/mobile needs. I'm still trying to figure out which group I'm in. I have broad needs like yours, but don't necessarily need the power to be in a mobile device, not sure yet.
 
That will be never, it's not supposed to be a laptop replacement.

And thanks for putting a nice and simple (and offensive) label on everyone who doesn't share your attitude.

It is a laptop replacement according to Steve Jobs. He created the machine so his opinion counts, don't you think?
 
It is a laptop replacement according to Steve Jobs. He created the machine so his opinion counts, don't you think?

I don't think this is true.
I watched announcement video again. He asked if there was room for something between a smartphone and a notebook. He answered with "yes", but he thinks the device would not be a netbook.

So the iPad is intended to replace a netbook but not a full featured notebook (or laptop).

He also showed a presentation slide that showed the iPad between the iPhone and the MacBook (pro).

Christian
 
At this point the iPad is nothing more than a toy. When it actually does become a viable laptop replacement, then maybe it will win over those of us that don't just robotically buy everything that Steve poops out.
Firstly -- when are people going to get it that this is NOT a Laptop REPLACEMENT. Those that wish this are simply people who need a laptop but want an iPad but can't afford both. So they come on these boards and mouth off about how terrible it is. Lame.

Steve Jobs said that Apple pondered if there was room somewhere between a smartphone and laptop that needed to do some key tasks well or it had no reason for being. There were 7 tasks he targeted (web browsing, music, video, photos, games, email and eBooks) and Apple hit their mark on this!
 
It is a laptop replacement according to Steve Jobs. He created the machine so his opinion counts, don't you think?

I'm pretty sure that he said that it was a device to sit between a laptop and a smart phone. A position which had been best filled with a netbook. So it is arguable that he said that they were to replace netbooks, but he did not say that they were there to replace laptops.
 
Over 300,000! Awesome numbers!

This doesn't include the 3G version which we all no comes out in the end of the month. Even after that, though, Steve spoke of International carrier deals that should be finalized in June -- so it's going to take some time to truly see who the real early adopters are.
 
So I guess you missed the gigantic diagram during the keynote with the picture of the iPad in between the pictures of an iPhone and a laptop....

And that equates to laptop replacement...how?

Methinks you're trying to fit it into a preconceived niche....
 
At this point the iPad is nothing more than a toy. When it actually does become a viable laptop replacement, then maybe it will win over those of us that don't just robotically buy everything that Steve poops out.

So.. is Apple supposed to release just one product from now on? The iEverything? Every time they try to get into a new product category I hear the same thing. "It's not a laptop." "It's not a desktop." "It doesn't have a DVD drive."

It's nothing more than a toy? That's precisely what was said about the original Mac. Note that I'm not encouraging you to rush out and buy one. I certainly am not. I have enough gadgets for now, and I'm not prone to being a first adopter. I like to see a product go through a few improvements first.

That will happen with iPad, just as it does with every Apple product. But whether you buy one or not, it's certain that if iPad can catch on in the public consciousness, it will be another step in the long road that has transformed computing into something that goes on in the background, and computers into appliances with tailored systems and interfaces that more closely fit how we naturally interact with objects and ideas in the world.

Is it going to be a game changer? No, not by itself... it's part of a larger ecosystem of products and services Apple is building, very cleverly, to avoid the pitfall that befell telecom providers in the early 1990s--overbuilding capacity without simultaneously stimulating a value-added, content-driven need for it.

As long as Apple keeps working on iTunes and creating new ways for consumers to experience content, devices like iPad will see success. How much is debatable. Betting blindly on the future is a fool's game, but Apple has a pretty good set of intellectual ingredients at their disposal.

I see the iPad as another stepping stone--like iPhone, like mighty mouse, like multitouch trackpads, like AppleTV--toward easing users into a completely different user experience and user interface than we've been stuck with for 25 years.
 
That's a bit unreasonable comparison. Come on...just list the difference besides size (which I'll gladly give you).

Basic functionality ... Yes you are correct. They are equal.

But his comparison is valid.

On a touchscreen UI size matters.

I have an iPhone but will most likely get an ipad.
I realize the ipad will have capabilities beyond the iPhone.
 
Why would anyone have cared in 2001? Where would they get the media files? There was no iTunes store or similar back then. Most consumers don't actually rip DVDs or download movies off bittorrent.

This device failed for a lot more reasons than a lack of hype. It was "way ahead of its time", meaning so many things were missing in the marketplace that it could do little more than foreshadow a future device - the iPad.

Because in 2001 the internet was heavily booming. I remember many people bought a PC those days for the very first time just to surf the web and have email. Both could be done well with the Sinus pad much cheaper and easier.

Remember, setting up an internet connection (esp. if you used ISDN, DSL or anything else than an analog modem) was not a trivial task on Win98 and Me.

And the pad was portable and wireless! Remember, notebooks were very expensive those days and most of them did not yet include wireless networking....

Btw. Wasn't 2001 the year when the first iPod was introduced? According to the same logic, it should have failed, too. Without the iTuned Store there was not much media for it (and not even Windows support at the beginning)...

Christian
 
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