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You should just read the release from Apple, it explains it.

It is the number of iPads that went into the hands of customers in the first day. So it includes units sold in stores as well as preorders that were received by customers on Saturday. Considering that 3G units don't ship for a few more weeks meaning it's only some of the preorders, whether you call it "spin" or not, getting 300k units into the hands of customers in one day is pretty damn impressive.

Actually it says that 300k includes units delivered to stores. Meaning whatever stock is left in Best Buys and Apple stores unclaimed and unsold IS included in this number.
 
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/05/300k_ipads_sold/

Apple understates iPad demand

"Apple says it 'sold over 300,000 iPads in the US as of midnight Saturday, April 3,'" Rik Myslewski reports for The Register. "But that figure is an uncharacteristic understatement by Cupertino's hyperactive hypemeisters."

Apple's press release refers only to 'deliveries of pre-ordered iPads to customers, deliveries to channel partners and sales at Apple Retail Stores,'" Myslewski reports. "Missing from that 300,000 figure are pre-sales for the iPad Wi-Fi + 3G, for which Apple has been banking pre-orders since March 12."

Myslewski reports, "Including the yet-to-be-delivered 3G iPads, which are scheduled to be released on an unspecified date later this month, total iPad orders and sales may be more in the 400,000 to 500,000 range. But Apple, to no one's surprise, isn't providing specific figures."
 
She's an Apple fangirl, so she loves it for the most part.

Most of the things you mention were known before it shipped. Did you tell her about all those issues before she got it?

Honestly, it sounds like you're more mad at your wife than anything else.

I'm pretty sure that he said that it was a device to sit between a laptop and a smart phone. A position which had been best filled with a netbook. So it is arguable that he said that they were to replace netbooks, but he did not say that they were there to replace laptops.

It's not "arguable" that he said anything. You can pretend that he meant something other than what he said, but he either said that or he didn't. Seems like he didn't and that people are using that as a straw man argument.

Actually it says that 300k includes units delivered to stores. Meaning whatever stock is left in Best Buys and Apple stores unclaimed and unsold IS included in this number.

Actually that's not right either, it does include numbers shipped to channel partners (which I suspect was a pretty low number so most of those were probably sold), but for stock at Apple stores, it only includes sales.

Did they ship enough to Best Buy that they had units left over at the end of the first day?
 
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/05/300k_ipads_sold/

Apple understates iPad demand

"Apple says it 'sold over 300,000 iPads in the US as of midnight Saturday, April 3,'" Rik Myslewski reports for The Register. "But that figure is an uncharacteristic understatement by Cupertino's hyperactive hypemeisters."

Apple's press release refers only to 'deliveries of pre-ordered iPads to customers, deliveries to channel partners and sales at Apple Retail Stores,'" Myslewski reports. "Missing from that 300,000 figure are pre-sales for the iPad Wi-Fi + 3G, for which Apple has been banking pre-orders since March 12."

Myslewski reports, "Including the yet-to-be-delivered 3G iPads, which are scheduled to be released on an unspecified date later this month, total iPad orders and sales may be more in the 400,000 to 500,000 range. But Apple, to no one's surprise, isn't providing specific figures."

I would guess that wi-fi preorders exceeded 3g preorders by around 2:1 or 3:1.
 
I would guess that wi-fi preorders exceeded 3g preorders by around 2:1 or 3:1.

Which would mean about 1k to 1.5k of the 3G for a total of 4-4.5k total sold. Which is about what the analyst you quoted said, I guess you agree with him.
 
...don't think you know what you're talking about until you've had a chance to use one.

You can say the same thing about drugs or alcohol. You see, by the time you know you've made a mistake you're already addicted ;)
 
Just left BestBuy Fashion Valley in San Diego and ended up answering a lot of questions from my
fellow customers (I think BestBuy or Apple probably owes me some commission). Sales staff reported they had recieved 30 units of each model (total of 90 units) and had one 64gb model remaining. Everyone in the area was either holding one, buying accessories or making sure it would open .PDFs or word documents. All 3rd party cases had sold out. Lot of business men seemed to be interested in buying it to show graphs and technical data to clients. Was interesting to watch several of them practicing with it: reading from it then flipping it over and the ipad almost instantly re-orienting the image. Very slick. Perhaps more interesting, many of them were PC users and had an iPod but not an iPhone. Just a report from the field, I think 300,000 units is only the beginning.
 
Which would mean about 1k to 1.5k of the 3G for a total of 4-4.5k total sold. Which is about what the analyst you quoted said, I guess you agree with him.

The wifi preorders were 50% of the total 300,000, or 150,000. So I predict 3G preorders were between 50K and 75K.
 
I totally agree. If I have both iPhone and iPad on the road why do I need two phone numbers in order to read emails on the iPad?

Totally agree. I have a cellular connection already, I don't need another one. I'm seriously considering jail breaking my phone just for the tethering capability.

ROFL
Dude, it might of cost you $500, but you've learned a very important lesson this weekend: Don't believe the hype.
Glad to have you on board!

You must be giving away free drinks to get people to volunteer to go on that cruise. :) Beware the icebergs!

Are you Julie McCoy or Gopher? (you're probably too young to understand that reference?)
 
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/05/300k_ipads_sold/

Apple understates iPad demand

"Apple says it 'sold over 300,000 iPads in the US as of midnight Saturday, April 3,'" Rik Myslewski reports for The Register. "But that figure is an uncharacteristic understatement by Cupertino's hyperactive hypemeisters.""

That article also says there are about 2500 iPads on eBay. I checked it, they are there, and they are going for more than retail price! Can anyone give me a rational explanation why someone would pay more for an iPad on eBay than it would cost on the Apple Store?
 
He also showed a presentation slide that showed the iPad between the iPhone and the MacBook (pro).
Aren't the MBA and MB between the iPhone and MBP as well?

To me, he was only showing that it's more than an iPhone but not in the same category as the MBP. Then again, the same could be said about the MBA and the MB.

Everyone has different needs. There are individuals who find the MBA or MB is enough for their needs and that they don't need a MBP model. Why would the iPad be any different? Some will find that it will augment their current laptop and for others it will become their laptop.

That article also says there are about 2500 iPads on eBay. I checked it, they are there, and they are going for more than retail price! Can anyone give me a rational explanation why someone would pay more for an iPad on eBay than it would cost on the Apple Store?
I can think of a few of reasons, but it all boils down to they want it now and do not want to wait. Thus they are willing to pay the eBay surcharge.
 
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/05/300k_ipads_sold/

Apple understates iPad demand

"Apple says it 'sold over 300,000 iPads in the US as of midnight Saturday, April 3,'" Rik Myslewski reports for The Register. "But that figure is an uncharacteristic understatement by Cupertino's hyperactive hypemeisters."

Apple's press release refers only to 'deliveries of pre-ordered iPads to customers, deliveries to channel partners and sales at Apple Retail Stores,'" Myslewski reports. "Missing from that 300,000 figure are pre-sales for the iPad Wi-Fi + 3G, for which Apple has been banking pre-orders since March 12."

Myslewski reports, "Including the yet-to-be-delivered 3G iPads, which are scheduled to be released on an unspecified date later this month, total iPad orders and sales may be more in the 400,000 to 500,000 range. But Apple, to no one's surprise, isn't providing specific figures."

Understates? Should Apple report pre-orders as sales? Obviously not. It did not receive the money and the orders might yet be canceled.
 
How do they compare side by side? I haven't tried an HP slate yet.
The Slate can do certain things that cannot be done on an iPad, but the iPad is different because it is a real Apple product.

Wrong. He was comparing a device with a desktop OS grafted onto tablet form versus the iPad which has its own OS designed for the tablet form. It's not the form factor that sets the iPad - or the iPhone for that matter - apart from desktops, laptops and even Windows tablet. It's the philosophy that's molded the software. That's the difference that he doesn't understand. If you want a desktop-in-tablet form, the iPad isn't for you. But that's no basis for criticizing the iPad since it wasn't designed to be a desktop-in-tablet form.

Apples and oranges.
Well excuse me, but the other person started to compare it with airplanes, which to me is a whole lot more off the charts; the iPad and HP Slate share a lot more with each other than with airplanes.

I guess that some people [here] simply want [hoped for?] more and/or different features. Which is fine by me as I won't judge them. There's simply no need for it. Different people. Different needs. To each his own.

I however don't need a full blown version of OS X on it, but not being able to print anything straight off of my iPad is a big disappointment. That's all I have to say about it ;)
 
That article also says there are about 2500 iPads on eBay. I checked it, they are there, and they are going for more than retail price! Can anyone give me a rational explanation why someone would pay more for an iPad on eBay than it would cost on the Apple Store?

Foreigners?
 
Strawman's Arguement

And exactly how many were returned??!!
 

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Understates? Should Apple report pre-orders as sales? Obviously not. It did not receive the money and the orders might yet be canceled.

You have to excuse *LTD*. He's obviously a sickening paid Apple shill or just delusional. Probably both!

I'd like to see Google get away w/ pre-orders in a Droid number and see what this guy would say.

Always a one-way street for Apple... always.
 
LOL, Steve Jobs seems to think there is nothing outside of USA's borders.

/written from my Nokia E71 in Canada

An Americancentric American not recognizing a non-Americancentric world? :eek:

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Not surprised, given Americans are purposely stifled by their own government from getting BBC World and Euronews (unlike us Canadians) to get a global view. If they ever saw how the REST of the world view Americans, their over-inflated, precious egos simply couldn't take the hit. lol

I'm also Canadian.
 
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