If Apple is indeed a HARDWARE company, and they lock their OS to their hardware only, then they need to satisfy all ends of the hardware market and start making some kick-@ss hardware to fill the GAPING HOLES left in their product lines - such as in the pro-sumer/mini tower area, and the enterprise area.
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Apple Sells Two Million Copies of Leopard in First Weekend
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If Apple is indeed a HARDWARE company, and they lock their OS to their hardware only, then they need to satisfy all ends of the hardware market and start making some kick-@ss hardware to fill the GAPING HOLES left in their product lines - such as in the pro-sumer/mini tower area, and the enterprise area.
Good point, but at the same time wouldn't the sales of mac's themselves be a separate entity than the sales of the retail copies of leopard?
I guess it depends on what the 2 million means.... whether it's amount of leopard licenses used up, or retail leopards gone off the shelves.
Wow, that sounds exactly like me (switched in Jan/2006). I only use Windows for three reasons (in that order):
1) Parallels/MS Money 2002: only because I'm too lazy to manually move my 10 years of data to Quicken. I'm thinking of starting a fresh financial data using Quicken 2006.
2) BootCamp/Adobe Audition: I don't want to spend 400$ to move to Logic Express. Maybe one day, but not now
3) BootCamp/Games: my wife plays some adventure games sometimes. I play on XBOX 360, so I don't care for PC/Mac games anymore.
My main reason for switching: the birth of my son and iPhoto and iMovie for keeping memories. I tried (and paid) for so many crappy application on the PC. Never looked back with those two apps. But truth be told, it's no way the fault of the OS in this case.
Apple should make iLife for Windows. It may be a good advertisement for the Mac!
Have to work a bit now and stop reading forums...
I would alsao be interested is seeing this stat. Obviously more copies have been sold due to the larger Mac user base, but on a percentage basis, what % of Mac users bought Tiger upon its release versus what % of users have now bought Leopard upon its release?
Sounds like a job for Doctor Q!
Seems no one else cares about this yet.
I wonder how many copies were sold with the purchase of a new Mac.
There's a lot of comparison of Vista sales to Leopard sales. While this is an unfair comparison due to overall PC market share, a fair comparison would be the overall percentage of user satisfaction of Vista vs. Leopard. With the amount of PCs offering preinstalls of XP or a flavor of Linux increasing, the amount of users downgrading to XP themselves, and the word-of-mouth disappointment of Vista circulating through the tech scene, these (assumed/estimated) percentages speak loudly.
There's a lot of comparison of Vista sales to Leopard sales. While this is an unfair comparison due to overall PC market share, a fair comparison would be the overall percentage of user satisfaction of Vista vs. Leopard. With the amount of PCs offering preinstalls of XP or a flavor of Linux increasing, the amount of users downgrading to XP themselves, and the word-of-mouth disappointment of Vista circulating through the tech scene, these (assumed/estimated) percentages speak loudly.
Vista is the fastest growing operating system in Microsoft's history. However, Vista as of September only accounts for roughly 8 1/2 percent of Microsoft's total market share of 86.7 percent. In this same data set, Apple (both PowerPC and Mactel) accounts for 6.61 percent compared to Vista's 7.38 percent.
http://marketshare.hitslink.com/
"Microsoft Corp. saying Thursday that it has now shipped 88 million copies of the operating system, almost double the number of copies of XP in the same amount of time at its launch."
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,138983-pg,1/article.html
I will try all and everything lol. It has now become a project and a half! My hope was an identical clone in every way so I could do experiments on airdisk with one and if it got messed up I still had a working TM. This all because the initial backup on TM takes about 10 hours on my Dual G5 so trying to avoid having to do that twice.
So far booting to a Tiger drive is allowing the clone to happen (Leo boot fails very soon). I don't know yet if TM will like what it sees when it has finished.
I think we need 'Carbon Copy Time Machine' from the guy that created CCC.
Wow, I thought Tiger was a bigger step from it's predecessor compared to Leopard.
Still it's good see! It's a great OS and leaps ahead of Vista (formatted my Vista and back on XP). Go Apple
Think about it. There are millions more Mac users now compared to back then. We need to see percentages of total users - not just numbers sold.
great news
After the initial leopard euphoria wears off there will be tons more users adding their gripes to Apple's discussion page:
http://discussions.apple.com/category.jspa?categoryID=235
If it hasn't worn off yet, go there and read about all the horrible problems people are having.
I can only speak to the Panther->Tiger transition, but that one went much more smoothly than this.
After the initial leopard euphoria wears off there will be tons more users adding their gripes to Apple's discussion page:
http://discussions.apple.com/category.jspa?categoryID=235
If it hasn't worn off yet, go there and read about all the horrible problems people are having.
I can only speak to the Panther->Tiger transition, but that one went much more smoothly than this.
Yes, you are correct. A Mac sale would no doubt constitute the sale of a Mac, a licensed copy of Leopard, a licensed copy of iLife, perhaps an Apple keyboard and/or Mighty Mouse, etc. Each of these items are distinct and a "sale" would be recorded for each of them for accounting, inventory, tracking, etc. purposes.
Not necessarily gone off the shleves - users can order Leopard online as well (some orders may be backordered as well), all which count as a sale.
The problem wouldn't be something to do with the hard-linked directories, would it?
Or not. They need to decide if those niches (aka "gaping holes") are profitable niches or quicksand.
So far... they have a history of making good calls on those decisions, so if they don't decide to produce the machine that "everybody" (aka people on Mac boards) knows would be successful, that tells us something.
Actually it isn't at all necessary for a business environment, but I get your point. People BELIEVE it is necessary, so that has the same impact.
Have you tried the most obvious thing:
Copy the files using "sudo cp -a /volumes/foo /volumes/bar"
Of course replace "foo bar" with whatever is correct on your system.
You don't even have to know what is "correct on your system" if you drag an icon in to the terminal the fullpach to the icon type typed in for you
A lot happened at apple sience Tiger.
1. There was almost a 2 year gap from Tiger to Leapod.
2. When Tiger was released there was not mention of Intel Based Macs.
3. The Intel Based Macs got people to buy Macs in droves because they can Run Windows and Mac apps so there was less fear of getting stuck with a "Useless" OS.
4. Windows Vista was expeced to be released any time soon when Tiger was released, and it was expected to be a major improvement that would trounce OS X. After its release there was a general disapointment (after the inital Paid critics gave its good marks)
5. The Zune Flop (Showing people that Microsoft doesn't always dominate and Apple can out preform them, giving Apple more of an Aura around it)
6. iPhone Buzz it got a lot of people into Apple stores to see what is available.
7. iTunes TV and Movies making macs a major push towards online content.
8. I'm a Mac and I'm a PC adds. very good adds that get peoples attention and teaches them that Macs are more flexible then they origionally thought.
9. Strong track record with its popularity still no major security breaches.
10. College student acceptance. It is now the cool system to have.
With its popularity more people will want a new version of the OS as well the long wait makes them really wanting a new version of the OS. 10.3 -> 10.4 only some minor changes and only a year old. 10.4 -> 10.5 About 2 years earned its stripes but time to move on.
1. There was almost a 2 year gap from Tiger to Leapod.
2. When Tiger was released there was not mention of Intel Based Macs.
3. The Intel Based Macs got people to buy Macs in droves because they can Run Windows and Mac apps so there was less fear of getting stuck with a "Useless" OS.
4. Windows Vista was expeced to be released any time soon when Tiger was released, and it was expected to be a major improvement that would trounce OS X. After its release there was a general disapointment (after the inital Paid critics gave its good marks)
5. The Zune Flop (Showing people that Microsoft doesn't always dominate and Apple can out preform them, giving Apple more of an Aura around it)
6. iPhone Buzz it got a lot of people into Apple stores to see what is available.
7. iTunes TV and Movies making macs a major push towards online content.
8. I'm a Mac and I'm a PC adds. very good adds that get peoples attention and teaches them that Macs are more flexible then they origionally thought.
9. Strong track record with its popularity still no major security breaches.
10. College student acceptance. It is now the cool system to have.
With its popularity more people will want a new version of the OS as well the long wait makes them really wanting a new version of the OS. 10.3 -> 10.4 only some minor changes and only a year old. 10.4 -> 10.5 About 2 years earned its stripes but time to move on.
I went there and I really see very few problems to speak of. same rehash of the same issues where people installed APE, some having problems with the actual CD, etc. Most people have no issues, it is the vocal minority making all the noise, just like the iBricks taking over all the forms of media.
It is not perfect but a lot less troubles than in Vista.
ArsTechnica reports that there were roughly 22 million Mac users worldwide as of March 2007 (end of Q1). Apple sold roughly 1 million in Q2, 1.7 million in Q3, 2 million in Q4. Therefore, let's say there are currently roughly 26 million Mac users worldwide.
Leopard first weekend sales totaled 2 million. Therefore, 7.6 percent of Mac owners are currently Leopard users.
In early 2006, Apple reported that they have roughly 15 million Mac OS X users worldwide. Therefore, let's assume at Tiger's launch (April 05) there were roughly 13 million Mac users worldwide.
So, 2 million in one month for Tiger, or around 15 percent total base by the end of Tiger's launch month.
I'm also going to assume that Leopard maintains 1/3 of it's launch pace per weekend, so 667,000 copies each additional weekend—4 million total copies sold by the end of its launch month. Therefore, around 15 percent total base by the end of Leopard's launch month.
You obviously have some skewed definition of "failure" if you think Vista is one.
Strange, it's the vocal minority making all the noise about Vista's problems, too, yet everyone is quick to label it a "failure" because of this.
exactly! There are a lot of users out there that use system hacks. I remember seeing one user in a forum once who posted a screen shot of their preferences....they had something like 13 system hacks!
There is no way that apple would have shipped installation discs that would cause problems. I know that a lot of people will say "I don't have system hacks", but the truth is that most of them don't realize they are installing system hacks..just some kind of app.
Believe what you want, but wake me up when businesses around the world stop using Exchange servers that only work with Windows (sure, you get some access on a Mac, but it's hardly the same.)
OT: Leopard Boot Times
Anyone else experiencing long boot times with Leopard? I have a Mac Pro that used to boot in less than a minute under Tiger.
Since the upgrade to Leopard, my system hangs for 40 seconds on a blank screen (not even Apple Logo) and then boots like normal in less than a minute. I performed the upgrade rather than the erase and install method. I had installed beta versions of Leopard previously on another HD using the erase and install method and never had a boot time issue.
Weird and annoying!
Anyone else experiencing long boot times with Leopard? I have a Mac Pro that used to boot in less than a minute under Tiger.
Since the upgrade to Leopard, my system hangs for 40 seconds on a blank screen (not even Apple Logo) and then boots like normal in less than a minute. I performed the upgrade rather than the erase and install method. I had installed beta versions of Leopard previously on another HD using the erase and install method and never had a boot time issue.
Weird and annoying!