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I want a reasonably priced laptop with a modern chipset that supports HEVC hardware decoding.

The Air is about perfect but for the CPU. The price is still not reasonable by my definition but close enough. And there's been so many rumours that they're going to discontinue the Air entirely.

Apple needs to pull something out of the hat for me to stay on platform no matter how much more I like OS X than the alternatives.

Amendment: Apple doesn't need to pull something out of the hat for me. Offer a modern chipset in the Air and keep the price reasonable.
 
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"And one more thing... <pause for effect>... we've courageously decided to get rid of the R, D, F and C keys altogether. We know our customers don't need those keys and this allowed us to horizontally compress the revised keyboard by over 19mm while making it a whopping .004% thinner too. We know you'll love the new simplified Apple keyboard- something only Apple could make- because we arbitrarily decided to make it this way. So love it. That's an order! And sell other consumers on why it is so great. That's an order too. Available whenever we get around to it... but order now at only $699 or $849 with the next gen butterfly 2 mechanism"

Soon thereafter, from the faithful...

"OMG, Apple a e geniuses. I or one have long etested those pa ti ula keys and am ve y happy to see them ep e ate ."

"I an't believe we a e getting a keyboa that is 19mm thinne . A eam ome t ue i the e eve was one."

At last. inally, a keyboa that is not so *amn wi e and .004% thinne too! How i we eve get by when o ce to use those i i ulous keys be o e?

Hail Apple. Hail Apple. Hail Apple. All Hail the Apple.


And then of course, at least one naysayer (because there has to be one with every incredible Apple innovation)...

Why i n't they ump the 4 an 5 keys too... and un tion keys 4 & 5? I nothing else, eve yone knows to hol out until the .4 o .5 ve sion of softwa e be o e up a ing. If they umpe 4 & 5, it ould jump om the .3 ve sion to the .6 ve sion. Imagine how g eat that woul be! Apple just oesn't seem to think anymo e.

ail Apple. ail Apple. ail Apple. lea ly Apple is oome .

;) (but you know I'm only barely joking here)
 
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Things we all wish for:
- Seeing Tim Cook walk off the stage for the last time, ever.
- Seeing Scott Forestall come out and say "Hey everybody! I'm back! And look what we've been working on!"
- New chipsets and amazing API's to leverage them, putting Apple back in front again
- New computers that we'd actually buy
- iTunes replacement, again

Actual reality:
- iOS upgrade, having nothing but more cloud-sucking technology
- More Sherlocking
- New watch bands
- How great Apple is and everybody loves them, they keep telling themselves
- New OSX, this time called Oakland, just like the city
 
I'm convinced the hex-core iMacs, hex-core 15" MBPs, and quad-core 13" MBPs are coming. I'd be happy enough with silent updates, but these are big enough updates to warrant announcements at the keynote. Furthermore, the timing works because the appropriate chips have been out in volume for months, and it's one year after they were announced last year at WWDC 2017. By the way, I'm predicting fewer new Macs at WWDC 2018 than there were at WWDC 2017, so I'm not sure why you think it's so implausible.
I'm aware of the advancements made in and release of Intel's Coffee Lake CPUs, but if you really have no idea what I meant by neglecting the Mac, then you haven't been paying attention.

Maybe there's still hope for the Mac, as the development and introduction of the iMac Pro shows. But on the other hand, Apple decided to strip MacOS Server of 95% of its usefulness and discontinue the AirPort Time Capsule just so far in 2018...
I'm also pretty sure about the 4K streaming... or at least very hopeful. :cool: However, such DRM'd 4K HDR streaming would only come to 7th gen Intel Macs or later. This means all the 2017 Macs except for the 5th gen Broadwell MacBook Air...
So the 4K streaming will be full of DRM, and not compatible with a single one of my dozens of Macs including my Skylake Core i7 5K iMac from 2016. Thanks for the great news, I couldn't be more excited. ;)
 
So sick of all these Apple events without a Mac Pro update. All other products should just be put on hold until the Mac Pro is complete. It's the only product that actually matters right now.
 
Things we all wish for:
- Seeing Tim Cook walk off the stage for the last time, ever.
- Seeing Scott Forestall come out and say "Hey everybody! I'm back! And look what we've been working on!"

- New chipsets and amazing API's to leverage them, putting Apple back in front again
- New computers that we'd actually buy
- iTunes replacement, again

Actual reality:
- iOS upgrade, having nothing but more cloud-sucking technology
- More Sherlocking
- New watch bands
- How great Apple is and everybody loves them, they keep telling themselves
- New OSX, this time called Oakland, just like the city

That’d be awful for Apple as a company.
 
So the 4K streaming will be full of DRM, and not compatible with a single one of my dozens of Macs including my Skylake Core i7 5K iMac from 2016. Thanks for the great news, I couldn't be more excited. ;)

WHAT??? Why would you expect a 2-year-old iMac to be able to do anything new in 2018? You’re supposed to throw that archaic Mac out and buy a brand new one. Get on the annual schedule. Apple needs the money!

You don’t become a trillion dollar company by making ancient purchases do new tricks. ;)
 
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I'm aware of the advancements made in and release of Intel's Coffee Lake CPUs, but if you really have no idea what I meant by neglecting the Mac, then you haven't been paying attention.

Maybe there's still hope for the Mac, as the development and introduction of the iMac Pro shows. But on the other hand, Apple decided to strip MacOS Server of 95So the 4K streaming will be full of DRM, and not compatible with a single one of my dozens of Macs including my Skylake Core i7 5K iMac from 2016. Thanks for the great news, I couldn't be more excited. ;)
We will see if my prediction comes true or not, but speaking of paying attention... Some of us refrained from buying Skylake Macs (if we could wait) because of Skylake's hardware limitations for 4K support. Not only is Intel 6th gen missing hardware 10-bit 4K support, it is missing hardware 4K DRM support. We knew this before Skylake Macs were even released.

A lot of us don't like DRM, but it exists, and if you want to stream 4K, you're going to have to deal with 4K DRM. But of course, we will have to see if Apple finally does support it or not.
 
We will see if my prediction comes true or not, but speaking of paying attention... Some of us refrained from buying Skylake Macs (if we could wait) because of Skylake's hardware limitations for 4K support. Not only is Intel 6th gen missing hardware 10-bit 4K support, it is missing hardware 4K DRM support. We knew this before Skylake Macs were even released.

A lot of us don't like DRM, but it exists, and if you want to stream 4K, you're going to have to deal with 4K DRM. But of course, we will have to see if Apple finally does support it or not.
A Skylake i7 is more than enough to handle 4K DRM in software, even 10-bit 4K. Preventing that would have to be a conscious decision on Apple's part, but you and I both know that they aren't shy about kicking out perfectly capable older hardware, such as the current-generation Mac Pro you can still buy new from the Apple store today...
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I know it's unlikely that much hardware will be announced at this developer event. But, I'd buy a new mac mini. Just saying.
On the contrary, a developer-oriented event is the perfect place to announce new Mac hardware. A lot of developers prefer MacOS as a UNIX-based OS with the ability to run most of the major development tools, including Apple's own Xcode for developing iOS apps.

But when it comes to the Mac mini, your guess is as good as mine; it wasn't refreshed at last year's WWDC, and there isn't anything to suggest that Apple plans to refresh it soon. I won't be watching the event with high hopes of a new mini.
 
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A Skylake i7 is more than enough to handle 4K DRM in software, even 10-bit 4K. Preventing that would have to be a conscious decision on Apple's part, but you and I both know that they aren't shy about kicking out perfectly capable older hardware, such as the current-generation Mac Pro you can still buy new from the Apple store today...
Actually no. First of all, a Skylake i7 iMac isn't even fast enough to play some 10-bit 4K video in software.

I already tried it in software on a Kaby Lake i7-7700K iMac (which is slightly faster than a Skylake i7 iMac), and it could not smoothly play a Sony TV 10-bit 4K 60 Hz HEVC demo file I had. It stuttered quite a bit, and the fans were at 100% with all the CPU cores used. Basically, this demo file brought the Kaby Lake i7 to its knees when it tried to play it software, and the Kaby Lake i7 still failed to do it.

Then I tried in hardware on a 2017 Core m3 MacBook, and it played perfectly fine with 25% CPU usage. On my Core i5-7600 in hardware, it's under 10% CPU usage.

And that's not even considering the DRM, which requires specific hardware support anyway, and that hardware DRM support is absent in Skylake. Netflix 4K requires it for Windows, so I see no reason they wouldn't require for macOS too.
 
Actually no. First of all, a Skylake i7 iMac isn't even fast enough to play some 10-bit 4K video in software.

I already tried it in software on a Kaby Lake i7-7700K iMac (which is slightly faster than a Skylake i7 iMac), and it could not smoothly play a Sony TV 10-bit 4K 60 Hz HEVC demo file I had. It stuttered quite a bit, and the fans were at 100% with all the CPU cores used. Basically, this demo file brought the Kaby Lake i7 to its knees when it tried to play it software, and the Kaby Lake i7 still failed to do it.

Then I tried in hardware on a 2017 Core m3 MacBook, and it played perfectly fine with 25% CPU usage. On my Core i5-7600 in hardware, it's under 10% CPU usage.

And that's not even considering the DRM, which requires specific hardware support anyway, and that hardware DRM support is absent in Skylake. Netflix 4K requires it for Windows, so I see no reason they wouldn't require for macOS too.
Perhaps you're right as I didn't realize just how heavy these 4K @ 60fps H.265 video files are. I tracked down the 4K demo you are referring to, and it didn't play 100% smoothly in QuickTime Player; though it also didn't utilize 100% of the Core i7 CPU, usage was hovering around 50%.

Considering how I got this Late 2015 iMac though, I can't really complain (I was an early adopter of the Late 2014 Haswell / first-generation iMac 5K which was repeatedly plagued with image retention, so Apple eventually replaced it with the then-current and much more solid Late 2015 which I'm quite happy with).
 
Perhaps you're right as I didn't realize just how heavy these 4K @ 60fps H.265 video files are. I tracked down the 4K demo you are referring to, and it didn't play 100% smoothly in QuickTime Player; though it also didn't utilize 100% of the Core i7 CPU, usage was hovering around 50%.

Considering how I got this Late 2015 iMac though, I can't really complain (I was an early adopter of the Late 2014 Haswell / first-generation iMac 5K which was repeatedly plagued with image retention, so Apple eventually replaced it with the then-current and much more solid Late 2015 which I'm quite happy with).
Well, you're doing well then. You bought a 2014, and got a 2015. Nothing to complain about. ;)

I was in the same shoes, way back. I bought a 2009, but it was problematic so they replaced it with a 2010 (with 4GBx2 instead of my original 2GBx4 too, freeing up two memory slots). Ideally I would have liked to have a 2011 with Thunderbolt support, but I can't complain about getting the 2010, with a better memory setup too. They also let me keep my existing keyboard and mouse but gave me new ones, plus they gave my old 2 TB hard drive back too. :)
 
Hoping for new iMacs. My mid ‘11 can’t run for longer than 30 min to an hour before it blue screens on me. I told my wife a new one was coming so wait to buy a new one. Hopefully Apple doesn’t make me look like a fool.
 
Things we all wish for:
- Seeing Tim Cook walk off the stage for the last time, ever.
- Seeing Scott Forestall come out and say "Hey everybody! I'm back! And look what we've been working on!"
- New chipsets and amazing API's to leverage them, putting Apple back in front again
- New computers that we'd actually buy
- iTunes replacement, again

Actual reality:
- iOS upgrade, having nothing but more cloud-sucking technology
- More Sherlocking
- New watch bands
- How great Apple is and everybody loves them, they keep telling themselves
- New OSX, this time called Oakland, just like the city

I agree with you so much!
Tim Cook is undoubtedly doing good for Apple investors, who everybody knows
are the greediest people in the universe, but he is also trying to squeeze as much money possible to apple loving customers.
Steeve Jobs was maybe an unpleasent person, not easy to get along to, but he was pure and sincere. He didn't use the hypocrisy to give himself and his company the image that they care soo much of poor or sick people but he just thought that if Apple makes the best product at the best possible price (that doesn't mean they are cheap) people eventually will buy them.
Indeed Tim Cook, like most of the world politics lately, is confusing people talking alwasy about how important are civil rights (that are important, of course) but indeed it's just a coverage to take away from us the MOST IMPORTANT social rights. Tim Cook is giving up on the mac and some important features that competitor are indeed improving. All competitors are trying to build an ecosystem "Apple style" and they probably succed because the AI they have is better. If they continue to neglect mac software and hardware, in the end most people will stop buying mac, then ipads, then iphones etc...

P.S. sorry for my English, is not my mother tongue
 
I hope we see some forward movement here in software and hardware. I am so tired of seeing new Animoji and things I have no interest in as the big feature of iOS. I want more productivity and substance built into their platform.
They also really need to update the Mac Pro and Mac Mini.
While I still greatly enjoy using my Apple products it really feels like they are falling behind.
Siri is way overdue for some big updates.
I just hope this WWDC doesn't disappoint.
 
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