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I have whats called a family with many members and devices. I also run 2 businesses and my phone is quite literally in use all day with customers or maps(gps) that kills the battery quick. If it happens that I need a quick hit of juice for a device, its nice to have the ability to charge nearby. On a typical weekend when Im not working, my iphone will last the entire weekend on a single charge. If I crush it with web on the weekend or whatever, it still easily lasts the day with plenty to spare.

As for the ability to do either charging pad or cable, my question is whats the point? That sounds even stupider to me than just wireless thats not really wireless. If your phone can charge off usb cable why would you want to buy a $50 charge pad? Oh yea, because its a stupid gimmick that gets you all tingly inside.

Your business would probably do much better if you used a more appropriate device (a tablet?) And as far as "wireless that not really wireless" is concerned, did not you know that the power comes to our houses by wires anyways? What's your point? Wireless == convenience. It provides just that perfectly. And if you use your phone for business, buying several charging pads would be a solid investment. This way if somebody calls, you just pick up the phone and talk - no hassles with wires.

BTW, do you use wireless mouse with your iMac? Now that's a real gimmick (I use wired mouse).
 
Micro USB?

Can someone explain to me why Apple redesigned the dock connector and didn't use microUSB? What advantages does their lightening connector have to microUSB? I wonder how much landfill waste Apple has just contributed to by creating a new standard. They probably wanted to avoid competition for products that would be more easily interchangeable with other cell phone manufacturers.
 
Can someone explain to me why Apple redesigned the dock connector and didn't use microUSB? What advantages does their lightening connector have to microUSB? I wonder how much landfill waste Apple has just contributed to by creating a new standard. They probably wanted to avoid competition for products that would be more easily interchangeable with other cell phone manufacturers.

Backward compatibility. The dock connector uses Apple's protocol. It also supports the USB protocol, but the Apple protocol is much easier for the developers.
 
So, why not USB 3?

Because practically nobody has it? Because 300 mbits of 802.11/a is already much faster than USB/2? Because it's coming later, when it's more common? I dunno. Just spit balling. And not whinging.

Give it a shot.
 
In the future can't they just release a uSB3.0 lightning connector that would connect in the exact same way on each side?

I also agree that wireless charging is kind of pointless, well more of a fad at the time.
 
Backward compatibility. The dock connector uses Apple's protocol. It also supports the USB protocol, but the Apple protocol is much easier for the developers.

How is having a new connector "backwards" compatibility? You have to BUY a $29 "backwards" compatibility add-on just to dock your non iphone5 ipads/iphones/ipod/etc.
 
Apple will put NFC once the technology and people are adapted to it, they never just put anything on their devices unless they know it's worth it.... maybe it's just not worth it today, but assure that once Apple puts it on their iPhones, the world will actually discover it as cool am innovative! ha!
 
Because practically nobody has it? Because 300 mbits of 802.11/a is already much faster than USB/2? Because it's coming later, when it's more common? I dunno. Just spit balling. And not whinging.

Give it a shot.

You might want to check the speed of 802.11/a.....

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Apple will put NFC once the technology and people are adapted to it, they never just put anything on their devices unless they know it's worth it.... maybe it's just not worth it today, but assure that once Apple puts it on their iPhones, the world will actually discover it as cool am innovative! ha!

Let me shoot that down with one word, that word is "thunderbolt".
 
NFC will be the missing feature. Don't believe it would have been difficult to include. And how "Passbook" will help me paying in a taxi or bus . Or allow to get a drink out of a vending machine. So continue hoping to get it in iPhone 6 in two years ... :(

Reading your comment make thinking that's currently impossible to use coffee machines...

Seriously take your coins and pay, same process since years ;)
 
Question: "what about usb 3.0, NFC... for the iPhone5 ? "

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NFC will be the missing feature. Don't believe it would have been difficult to include. And how "Passbook" will help me paying in a taxi or bus . Or allow to get a drink out of a vending machine. So continue hoping to get it in iPhone 6 in two years ... :(

Reading your comment make thinking that's currently impossible to use coffee machines...

Seriously take your coins and pay, same process since years ;)
 
I cant believe they couldnt manage to make an adapter smaller than that. Its going to look like **** when i use my new phone with my speakers. Plus, they want to charge 30 bucks for it. Not cool apple.
 
Can someone explain to me why Apple redesigned the dock connector and didn't use microUSB?

If you notice, most gadget makers (logitech speakers/Philips radio) makes their things compatible with Apple. If they use microUSB, obviously these gadget makers will then use microUSB and other manufacturers would get a free ride to all the accessories/gadgets available for apple. at least that's how I see it.

couldn't care either way. I don't use such gadgets. :)
 
Reading your comment make thinking that's currently impossible to use coffee machines...

Seriously take your coins and pay, same process since years ;)

There are a bunch of food stores, in the UK at least, that offer wireless payment. Pret, McDonalds and EAT come to mind, but I know there are more.

My Barclaycard has been NFC enabled for a few years and I really wouldn't knock it until you try it, it is convenient. Fingers crossed for iPhone 6...
 
I really wanted a MagSafe connector :(

Yes, that would have been a great compromise.

Some of you guys ("NFC is useless", "wireless charging is stupid") are so funny. Apple always puts down what they don't include in their new stuff. And some of us just eat it up like its gospel.

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Personally, I don't really care that those features were left out but there's nothing wrong with those who would have liked to have seen them sharing that they wished they were there... just like those that believed a video chat camera belonged in that iPad, or those that wanted 1080p in an :apple:TV. And they're right for wishing for features important to them. They are not wrong because some of us- or Apple- spins it as so.
Yep, people have the right to whine about what they want and can't have, I can whine in favor of the status quo, and you can moralize. That's what forums are for.

I was a proponent of iSight on iPod, I was a proponent of 1080p, but I still think wireless charging is stupid and NFC is useless. I'm not eating up Apple's gospel, I simply agree.

Not only would I not use it, but I wouldn't want it taking up space and adding cost to my phone. That's the point-- Apple isn't trying to keep their boot on your neck, they're making design tradeoffs. People can yell and scream in a forum like this all they want but Apple's judgement is that including those features would make the phone less successful, therefore they didn't include them. They've been wrong before, but mostly not.

Of course you're seeing these things pop up in iPhone competitors-- they're scrambling to differentiate. Apple has never been one to reduce their marketing requirements to "everything plus", and they're a better company for it.
yes, just look at Samsung Galaxy SIII. It has wireless charging and it's 1% thicker and 1% heavier than iPhone 5. Apple would never compromise on weight that much (forget the brick that was iPhone 4S).
You do realize that the SIII doesn't have wireless charging, right?
http://pocketnow.com/2012/08/02/in-...ireless-charger-third-party-solution-arrives/
When it does come, it requires a modified backplate to work. The Nokia Lumia 920 also requires a special case to work. As did that Palm Pebble or whatever it was. That raises the question: if you like this idea so much, kickstart a wireless charger for iPhone. It's an add on for every other device, it seems like an opportunity.
Not necessarily. NFC has other uses for things like sharing to other devices, pairing with peripherals, and even using NFC tags to launch applications, set user settings, and more.

Mobile payments are a great use for NFC, but certainly not the only use.
Almost all of that can be done by other means. Bluetooth LE for example. NFC is a niche technology. I've worked with these technologies for years and just can't get excited about the idea that "near field" means security. I'll choose encryption and smart use policies any day.

Credit card companies like it because when you don't enter your PIN you don't feel like you've spent money. I don't see that as a plus. Subways are the one place where I actually think NFC makes sense-- you need user identification at a narrow check point, and you can't expect to keep anything clean enough to use a camera and barcode.

I guess if I'm wrong there's always next year...
 
Of course Phil Schiller is going to say the two things everyone has that iPhone doesn't aren't important. They're about to release the bloody thing.

Imagine If he said "NFC is great and so is wireless charging. We have the charging in the lab and I have it built in to my desk. All I do is set down my phone and it charges. Without wires. It's magical. So this will all be coming in the next iPhone. But please, oh please, buy the one we are about to release!" would be quite a different story.

These guys are pros, they will downplay anything missing until they're ready. They chose not to have LTE until they got the chip small enough to not draw too much power. That's what was wrong with previous LTE chips, too big. So instead of saying "we'll have LTE next year once the chips are at 28nm instead of 45nm" they say "LTE is pointless, who wants faster things? Seriously.." otherwise sales would be hindered while people wait for the next one that they said would contain the missing features.
 
And all the brains at apple couldnt think they could just use a USB connector to plug in that wireless charging device? Then you can use it at any place you can use the current charger.

Once more I think they rather shave a mm off the thickness then include things people actually can use.
 
Reading your comment make thinking that's currently impossible to use coffee machines...

Seriously take your coins and pay, same process since years ;)

Then why bluetooth? Or a touchscreen for that matter? Or the whole mobile phone? Just use a payphone? Same process since years .
 
yep. Honestly I am really glad apple did this change.

Reason why is they screwed over all those devices in the ecosystems which means it screws over the manufactures as well. I can see the manufactures taking this as a chance to say screw Apple's proprietary connector crap and go with a more open standard that works will all the OS. Why lock out over 50% of the market. Before hand yeah it was going to hurt making the change but now you have to start over any how. Might as well go over to an open standard.

You are confusing two market shares. There is the percentage of iPhones among smart phones. And then there is the percentage of iPhone users among those who are willing to pay money for your gadget. That's the percentage that counts.
 
I thought the EU passed legislation saying that all manufacturers should use the same microUSB standard. Not sure how Apple got an exemption to this?

I think it's a voluntary code, not legislation. In any case, the standard is based on the power adapter and the standard, but not the plug into the phone. So long as the thing that plugs into the wall can offer power over micro usb, it fits. The shape of the adapter at the phone end, however, is up to the manufacturer. So, you should be able to plug your iphone into anyone's power supply, but you will have to bring your own cable.
 
yes, just look at Samsung Galaxy SIII. It has wireless charging and it's 1% thicker and 1% heavier than iPhone 5. Apple would never compromise on weight that much (forget the brick that was iPhone 4S).

First, the Samsung Galaxy S3 is _not_ 1% thicker and heavier than the iPhone 5, it is a lot bigger and heavier.

Second, the Samsung Galaxy S3 that you purchase doesn't have wireless charging. You can buy a "wireless charging kit" as explained here:

http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/04/verizon-samsung-galaxy-s3-wireless-charging-kit/

That "kit" consists of a back plate that you have to attach to the phone ($40) and a mat that you plug into the wall ($50). The back plate would have to be attached permanently, otherwise the wireless charging doesn't make sense - it would be ridiculous to have the back plate lying on the charging mat, and to charge you attach the back plate and lie the phone on the mat; plugging in a cable would be easier. So you have a phone that is bigger and heavier in the first place, and then you attach a back plate that makes it even bigger and even heavier. And you pay $90 for this.
 
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Backward compatibility. The dock connector uses Apple's protocol. It also supports the USB protocol, but the Apple protocol is much easier for the developers.

but its not backward compatibility for two reasons

1) you need to buy an adapter anyways
2) I'm sure they could have made a usb to 30 pin adapter
2) Not all features are supported "Video and iPod Out not supported"

This sucks. I had hoped that at least with the adapter all my old 30 pin accessories would work, but now what is the point of it. I would rather they had gone with micro usb 3.0 port and just started out with brand new accessories.
 
I suppose yes, considering the $115 Billion+ in the bank...

Lol just because they know how to milk their customers doesnt mean they have their best intentions at heart.

That new connector being a nice way to milk you some more.
 
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