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jdechko said:
I like the nano a lot. If I didnt have an iPod, I'd seriously consider a black one. As for the ROKR, I think that 100 songs is a good amount... there's probably 512MB built-in flash on the phone, with a good bit of it being used for the phone systems, etc. It would, however, be nice to see an expansion slot so that all the complainers would have more space.

The capacity is fine, considering that it's a phone as opposed to an iPod. I'm sure the capacity will increase. Patience...

HOWEVER... If it is not compatible with iSync, then I certainly will not buy it. I am in the market for a new phone, and I was going to switch from Verizon to Cingular anyway. One of the primary reasons to switch to Cingular is that they do not lock down their Bluetooth and that's why it's iSync compatible. Verizon locks down their bluetooth and BT can only be used for headsets. If you want contact sync, you need to buy their data transfer cable and PC software (ummm... no...)
 
Only a quarter inch thick? WHY can't it be one-eighth????

Who promised us anything more than music today? :confused: I think Apple will weather this "let down" ;)

I think it may time to break out Thread 500: :D

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I noticed it's all the newbies that post negative comments. :mad:

They seem to come out of the wood work during product announcements.
 
NO FIREWIRE?

It is gonna be painful to have to use USB to fill the larger model. What the heck is Apple doing phasing out firewire? It has a dock connector so should be able to support it.

It really sucks that Apple is forcing Mac Users with Firewire to use an inferior technology that evidently has been deemed "good enough". This smacks of the dark side a bit too much for me.

The design is really cool and the size is great. They just need to add Firewire.

One other feature that would be cool would be to have the screen flip 180 automatically when it is hanging up side down from the lanyard. That way you could have the artwork displayed of what you are listening to. This is gonna be a fashion accessory as much as it is a MP3 player and they should keep that in mind.

I also am very curious to know if it will be able to hook up with a card reader so you can download your pics straight off your camera onto it. That will be important.
 
I like Harry Potter, but isn't $249 quite expensive for 6 audiobooks? $149 ($25 per book) sounds more reasonable.

Edit: Especially considering that you can get all the 6 books in paperback from amazon.com for $43.21 ($26.22 boxed set of book 1-5 + $16.99 for book 6)
 
Daveway said:
I haven't caught up with this thread, but does anyone know if Apple will post the video later like they did last October?
ooh yeah!! I want a videocast! Anyone know anything bout it?
 
Jack A said:
What the heck is Apple doing phasing out firewire?

They are in no way phasing out Firewire, which as you point out is faster than USB 2 for long transfers. It's here to stay.

They are removing that feature from the iPod, specifically--making it optional at most. Reason: to reduce the price.

Which is a very reasonable move, since demand for Firewire on music players is low. Apple wants to sell iPods, not use them to push Firewire accessories (which wouldn't be successful anyway).

And when copying your newest few songs to the iPod--the typical situation--I doubt most people would be too troubled by USB 2 speeds. Firewire shines for BIG transfers, which are not part of everyday iPod use.
 
F***ING PATHETIC APPLE!!!! BOO

I can only say that Apple is utterly pathetic. The company's recent cancellations and today's announcements and OLD computer line is just a complete JOKE. F**K, Apple organises such a large event with so much hype for a F***ING MOBILE PHONE that they don't even manufacture!! Really revolutionary to include an mp3 player in a mobile, I don't care how good iTunes is compared to the competition, they must be kidding. All I can say is YIPPIE now everyone go out and buy yourself a stupid old phone with itunes! :) A huge mac fan myself to go out and buy this Motorola phone to replace my current Sony Ericsson K750i for itunes....hahaha!!! Mobile phone manufacturers have completely misunderstood the mobile concept according to me! I want a good reliable phone that will let me:

- make and receive phone calls
- send sms and mms
- proper internet browsing
- good calender
- good addressbook
- good standby time
- nice design
- gps
- good camera

That's not too much to ask I don't think! I never asked to get a F***ING mp3 player, tv mobile, and these other stupid features. What I am talking about is a smartphone with what I would say are essential features. All the technology is available and the market for a phone like this is huge! The companies need to wake up! Yes I wouldn't mind an mp3 player if APPLE developed a smartphone which included ipod capabilities as well as their intuitive interface and gorgeous design. What they have announced today is rubbish in my eyes!

I just have to point out before I continue that I usually just read these and other forums like these but I can't refrain from conveying some of my views due to the recent events.

Yes Apple is a profit making company and "successful"! But come on although the ipod has revolutionised the music player market or whatever you want to say, the unveiling of the ipod nano (what's next the ipod pico) is not revolutionary at all! Yes it's small and everything else about it, as with the other ipods is great, but come one Apple...."here we go again"! Yes that slogan is right because they released yet another ipod. When are we going to hear "mobile computing here we go again" or something like that???!!!! Their complete computer line is outdated if you disregard the G5 as it at least uses newer technology compared to the G4. Yes they are going to transition to Intel but WHEN and I don't want to be a beta tester. "We have many great PPC products in the pipeline", REALLY, well your pipeline is full of ****! I suggest a lot of laxative!! :D

Furthermore cancel the keynote at the Apple Expo Paris and no explanation as to why! Ok I understand that they aren't going to publicly announce why it was cancelled but I must say that Steve Jobs and any other Apple executives to hold a Q&A session with the press just doesn't cut it! As if they will answer "yeah intel products available in July 2006", i.e. "buy our crap outdated products now cause you won't see updates till we release intel products and once you buy intel products cause they will be soooooo great, we'll get feedback that the computers have flaws and then you can get the next revision!"


APPLE NEEDS TO GET ITS ACT TOGETHER!

(Yes I will never go back to PCs, I've been a mac user from 2000 and although I wasn't a mac user from the start they are amazing. I am very familiar with Windows XP and other MS products as well as work as a IT administrator at my father's company which uses PCs and I'm a mechanical engineering undergraduate student and must unfortunately do CAD on a PC cause the software I use isn't available for mac and (yes this was a long sentence) but PCs suck!)
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Just a few of MY views.
 
nagromme said:
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They are removing that feature from the iPod, specifically--making it optional at most. Reason: to reduce the price.
...

FireWire can't be used for file transfers, but it can be used to charge the nano. Why would I want to charge it via Firewire?
 
Well, even though the new iPod doesn't beam h.264 from an Apple Media store to my HDTV I'm still happy with my recently upgraded Power Mac G5 and my boys are happy with their iPod's (and iMac).

You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometime you just might find - you get what you need :p
 
cookieme said:
F**K, Apple organises such a large event with so much hype for a F***ING MOBILE PHONE that they don't even manufacture!!
Some news sites are saying that this was a music event covering multiple related topics, of which the Motorola partnership was only one.


tom_s said:
FireWire can't be used for file transfers, but it can be used to charge the nano. Why would I want to charge it via Firewire?
Presumably because you happen to have a free Firewire port. Charging from the wall is also an option.

And presumably, charging over Firewire does not require a full Firewire data implementation--which would have increased the cost of the device with very little benefit to most buyers. That would be bad business.
 
cookieme said:
I can only say that Apple is utterly pathetic. The company's recent cancellations and today's announcements and OLD computer line is just a complete JOKE.-----------------------------

Just a few of MY views.


Yes, well, whatever.

Apple's "old" computer line enables me to record live music being made by world-class musicians without fear that it will fall over at inopportune moments; with Firewire peripherals, too, what's more( Yamaha mLan and Apogee Rosetta 800).

Background? We build Eric Clapton's new guitar amps in the UK-
(see: www.dc-developments.com )

.........so we kind of sort of know what we're talking about when it comes to audio, tone and holding up when the going gets rough.

All the protestations in the world from know-nothing pre-pubescent spec-whores won't make a gnat's-fart of difference to me. Macs work ( at least my Mini and 2 laptops do) and if yours don't...well....there are techs out there who'll fix your badly-maintained/inadequately spec-ed/buggy-s'ware-ridden (sh-)kit and charge you accordingly...


Oh, you're a tech too? Well, who'da guessed?




Just a few of MY opinions. Hmmmmmppppphhhhhh..........

P.S. If I seem cranky, it's cos my father just passed away. But I'm a miserable Limey SOB at the best of times, so flame on and see if I give a toss.

:mad: :mad: :mad:
 
gekko513 said:
I like Harry Potter, but isn't $249 quite expensive for 6 audiobooks? $149 ($25 per book) sounds more reasonable.

Edit: Especially considering that you can get all the 6 books in paperback from amazon.com for $43.21 ($26.22 boxed set of book 1-5 + $16.99 for book 6)

What I'd actually like more than an HP audiobook is an e-book I can put on my PDA, to read while killing time (my hospital workplace isn't exactly the best setting for using an iPod). Last I checked none exist for sale. :(
 
A couple of points:

1) Sorry to all the guys looking a video pod, i personally didnt think it would have been a smart move but id still have loved to see one. Fingers crossed that the principle can be made work in the future.

2) To all the spoil sports who bombarded us with comments like "its just going to be the darned phone, NOTHING else"..... you hypocrites!! Your comments were made suggesting we were being stupid and naive and wasting bandwidth with our posts, yet fact proves the reverse to be true. Next time round, dont bother! Those speculating were having fun and didnt care if we were wrong..... thats what forums like this are all about

Adam
 
nagromme said:
And presumably, charging over Firewire does not require a full Firewire data implementation--which would have increased the cost of the device with very little benefit to most buyers. That would be bad business.

Let's don't start this debate again. USB 2 debuted in 2001, Apple refused to support the standard across the line (for various reasons) until late 2003. Many of us are stuck with USB 1.0 and Firewire. Products like the iPod shuffle and now "nano" are worthless. Unless you like to wait. So maybe you would benefit "very little," but myself and others on this forum benefit greatly from firewire support.
 
joshuawaire said:
Let's don't start this debate again. USB 2 debuted in 2001, Apple refused to support the standard across the line (for various reasons) until late 2003. Many of us are stuck with USB 1.0 and Firewire. Products like the iPod shuffle and now "nano" are worthless. Unless you like to wait. So maybe you would benefit "very little," but myself and others on this forum benefit greatly from firewire support.
There's no debate. All iPods would be better (at least a little) with both USB and Firewire standard. They'd also cost more.

But I'll add bold to my statement to make clear why Apple made this business decision (which is what it was--not any kind of backing away from Firewire as a technology for the future):

... which would have increased the cost of the device with very little benefit to most buyers.

YOU are one of the few who would benefit significantly from Firewire--but you can still use the iPod without Firewire (it supports USB 1.1, and that does the job OK after a slow initial sync). But someone without Firewire (a big chunk of the PC market that Apple wants to draw--which benefits Mac sales too) cannot use a Firewire-only iPod without buying extras. And an iPod that included both connections would cost more to make. Not worth it. Just a lot of Firewire cables in landfills.

There's nothing wrong with your having needs that are unusual--but in the overall PC market, it's just a business reality that they ARE unusual. So you may have to use USB 1.1, unfortunately. I can sympathize with that frustration even though I think Apple's choice makes sense.

I do wish, as you mention, that Apple had been an early adopter of USB 2 just as they were with USB 1, Firewire, Wi-Fi, optical mice, etc. etc.... and instead they were a late adopter.

My iPod DOES have Firewire and I'm glad--but if it only had USB 2.0, I'd seldom notice the difference. On my old USB 1.1 Mac I'd notice--but that's life. The iPod grew beyond being Mac-only--and that IS good for the Mac :)
 
bah,

My dell sucks at watching this video, keeps dropping audio, and sadly my ibook 600 doesn't have enough power to play it in anything but a quarter sized window :(

In the least, I can listen to it on my ibook and see parts of the images.
 
For all you iPod nano haters, please read the comments from the iPod mini's introduction. Do we see a pattern?

Let me put it in a nutshell for you guys... It ain't about HD capacity nor price. I'm too lazy to type any further.

oops. Wrong thread.
 
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