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Apple Sets 'Aggressive' 2022 Deadline to Bring Custom 5G Modems to iPhones

How the hell is this agressive?

They just purchased Intel's mobile department. Surely Intel had been working on and had ready to ship samples of 5G modems? This is just more bluster so that they have an excuse to not upgrade the internal for another few years.

Agressive announcment would be aiming for 1 year, not 3.

If this is Apple's idea of aggressive, it goes a long way to explaining the speed at which they don't bother p update many products.
 
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pretty much all of their custom chips so far have been great, so i will wait and see what they can deliver before passing judgement.

hopefully they'll concentrate more on energy usage than speed.
 
G4DPII said:
How the hell is this agressive?

They just purchased Intel's mobile department. Surely Intel had been working on and had ready to ship samples of 5G modems? This is just more bluster so that they have an excuse to not upgrade the internal for another few years.

Agressive announcment would be aiming for 1 year, not 3.

If this is Apple's idea of aggressive, it goes a long way to explaining the speed at which they don't bother p update many products.
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Armchair speculation from someone with no large project experience. It's extremely aggressive.
 
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JohnApples said:
Well, Pros would- which is what the iPhone 11 Pro is supposedly marketed towards. Especially since the 11 Pro’s big feature was its professional camera system.

Having USB-C would allow one to connect their iPhone to universal accessories without the need for an adapter. Just like the iPad Pro.

Sure, you can argue that USB-C on a phone has less uses than on a tablet or computer. But why market it as a “Pro” device then? As it stands, the iPhone is the only “Pro” device not using USB-C.
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The cameras in the 11 Pro are hardly a "professional camera system". Fixed length lenses. The equivalent of carrying around 3 separate DSLR's. Sure, it has some fancy software trickery that everyone can use, but what features, exactly, are targeted to professionals that your average user doesn't also use?

It's been discussed ad-nauseum as to why Apple added "Pro" to the iPhone Pro. Are DSLR manufacturers scared that the iPhone "Pro" is taking away from their expensive PRO bodies and lenses?
 
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G4DPII said:
How the hell is this agressive?

They just purchased Intel's mobile department. Surely Intel had been working on and had ready to ship samples of 5G modems? This is just more bluster so that they have an excuse to not upgrade the internal for another few years.

Agressive announcment would be aiming for 1 year, not 3.

If this is Apple's idea of aggressive, it goes a long way to explaining the speed at which they don't bother p update many products.
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They completely gave up on 5G modems in April.

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Intel Exiting 5G Smartphone Modem Business, Won't Make 5G iPhone Chips at All

Intel this afternoon announced plans to exit the 5G smartphone modem business to instead focus on opportunities for 4G and 5G modems in PCs, internet...
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Apple can handle aggressive timelines for hardware imo, software on the other hand 🙄
 
Mac Fly (film) said:
Tbh 3G was fast enough for me. What I’d like to see is Apple working toward lower prices. Their Pro iPhone doesn’t even have a USBc port and still retails for €1,179 in my country for the 64 GB version. I shudder to think what an Apple car might cost. And parts?
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It's pretty bad in UK and only going to get worse I imagine post Brexit. 128 GB should be standard really.
 
dmylrea said:
The cameras in the 11 Pro are hardly a "professional camera system". Fixed length lenses. The equivalent of carrying around 3 separate DSLR's. Sure, it has some fancy software trickery that everyone can use, but what features, exactly, are targeted to professionals that your average user doesn't also use?

It's been discussed ad-nauseum as to why Apple added "Pro" to the iPhone Pro. Are DSLR manufacturers scared that the iPhone "Pro" is taking away from their expensive PRO bodies and lenses?
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You’re preaching to the choir. I’m not saying that I agree with the Pro naming scheme or that the iPhone camera can compete with true DSLR’s. Apple chose the “Pro” naming

I’m merely going off how they’re marketing it. They emphasize the Pro camera system, and claim it’s for Pro users.

My point was simply that I think they should have included USB-C to give the 11 Pro more of a reason to bear the Pro name. So that we could have feature parity across Apple’s Pro devices.
 
2022 is not aggressive, given its already a tech company with the largest cash in the world and they bought intel 5G modems.

Also, 4G can easily reach 100Mbps which is fiber-like speeds without the downsides of 5G tech. 5G is nice but maybe still not ready, I am betting they released it to create a new wave of purchasing upgrades world wide.
 
FlyingDutch said:
Who exactly cares about USB C port on iPhone ? I can’t see any advantage in leaving lightning now.
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As of today, for sure. In three years I don’t know.
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I don't really mind but I do see the advantage. One cable for everything. Right now, you have USB C on MBP, iPad Pro but not on iPhone Pro. Customers would win. One universal cable for everything.
The cable situation is mess. Try to find a charger in a restaurant on your holiday. Most have androids to start with but then when you get lucky, its a mess. Switching to USB C would make it easier for everybody including yourself.
Lighting is dead, eventually we will all switch to USB-C (even Apple realised that so iPad Pro has it)
 
Mac Fly (film) said:
Tbh 3G was fast enough for me. What I’d like to see is Apple working toward lower prices. Their Pro iPhone doesn’t even have a USBc port and still retails for €1,179 in my country for the 64 GB version. I shudder to think what an Apple car might cost. And parts?
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Buy an Apple Car! You won't be able to purchase one. It will be a subscription service. Only Apple will own Apple Cars.
 
I'm not excited about 5G until it is demonstrated to be safe. Much higher frequency = much shorter wavelength = more chance of penetrating tissues at the cellular level. This obsession with ever faster internet speeds must surely reach a peak very soon. It takes less than a second to open most webpages and download content via LTE service on my iPhone now. I'm all for progress but this push for 5G has me a little cautious.
 
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satchmo said:
Okay, faster is almost always better, but what’s the game changing real-world application? Surely there’s something more important than just faster downloads of your favorite movies to your phone.
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Smart cities, electric cars that can communicate in real time so if an accident happens a camera could communicate to cars near by which can pass the message on with incredible low latency so that your car could be slowing down and telling other cars all in <1ms the mind boggles at what 5G could do with repeaters every few hundred meters, using mmWave tech. Not so good for your rural locations though which will need mid to low band 5G which isnt nearly as fast. It all depends what variant of 5G you use. The super fast version will take years to build out in cities though, especially when a human and rain can block the signal totally, let alone brick and mortar oh and glass. Its not really tech for phones, but if it helps wallets open...
 
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