Koss used to make great products. I’m not entirely sure what their stuff is like now.
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Apple Settles AirPods Patent Dispute With Koss to Avoid Trial
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Remember that time when Apple became a patent troll.....
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Koss has a market cap of $71.8 million. Apple has a market cap of $2.475 Trillion. Apple should have just drove them into the ground with legal costs instead of settling the infringement case. All settling does is make other small companies think they can go after Apple and get something out of it if they suspect infringement.
The trolls on MR love to accuse Apple of being litigious and weaponizing "obvious" patents that should be invalidated....but at the same time they jump to the defense of the "little guy" when Apple gets sued.
From the sound of it, the Koss patent in question is tapping an earbud for play/pause controls...
Apples implementation does not use capacitive touch controls, but rather uses an accelerometer to detect the user tapping the AirPod. Koss' implementation used capacitive touch controls. Note how AirPods Pro/3 are not affected by this lawsuit, since they switched to the force sensor/squeeze the stem. AirPods infringe Koss' patent by TAPPING the AirPod.
And Apple is the bad guy, patent troll?
From the sound of it, the Koss patent in question is tapping an earbud for play/pause controls...
Apples implementation does not use capacitive touch controls, but rather uses an accelerometer to detect the user tapping the AirPod. Koss' implementation used capacitive touch controls. Note how AirPods Pro/3 are not affected by this lawsuit, since they switched to the force sensor/squeeze the stem. AirPods infringe Koss' patent by TAPPING the AirPod.
And Apple is the bad guy, patent troll?
Tell that to the guy who invented the intermittent windshield wiper. Every car manufacturer but one stole his idea and they all claimed in court that they in fact had already created it first. But of course none of them ever did or they wouldn't have all made conflicting claims! He had negotiated his patent with them all too and they all refused to pay him and stole it instead. His estate eventually got most of the money and still gets royalties on every automobile to this date. Will Apple attempt to steal this one too I wonder?
There won’t be window wipers - instead, the windshield is constantly cleaning 😉Tell that to the guy who invented the intermittent windshield wiper. Every car manufacturer but one stole his idea and they all claimed in court that they in fact had already created it first. But of course none of them ever did or they wouldn't have all made conflicting claims! He had negotiated his patent with them all too and they all refused to pay him and stole it instead. His estate eventually got most of the money and still gets royalties on every automobile to this date. Will Apple attempt to steal this one too I wonder?
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What a cynical world view you have.
Might is right?
Bigger is better and **** the small guy?
You should go into politics.
And if there is infringement? Screw them?
Is there an answer? Dont keep us hanging, tell us how many times!
When was the last time you used a Koss headphone? I’ll go first… 1986. What possible relevant technology could they possibly have today?
These remain an extremely popular model.
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Until the Driverless unit kernel panics and the vehicle careens off the highway like Toonces the Cat Who Though He Could Drive a car! 😀
Yup, only Apple is allowed to have intellectual property. Thanks for the chuckle.
That’s common knowledge, not a suggestion.
That is based on the expectations that others intentions are always bad and Apple’s is always good. I doubt it’s that clearly cut out in real life.
True, if we on an Apple forum don’t like a company’s products in comparison to our beloved Apple products, that is enough motivation to dismiss the very idea that patents have any meaning. 😂
If they haven’t payed for them then the “f” does stand for free. If Nokia thinks they are entitled there is something in the US called a lawsuit.
So Apple's patents also damage innovation? There are problems with patent system. Over broad patents that should not have been granted, for example.
True, and if it is obvious it is not patentable.
And are built using common knowledge that can't be patented, even if materials used could be or a design patent applied.
How you got there may be irrelevant depending on the patent. I had a friend whose company created a software version of a mechanical manufacturing control system and ran into patent issues since they did exactly what was patented except in software.
Apple may have initially decided their patents provided enough protection that they would not violate Koss' or be able to invalidate them. Given they are two major corporations and not trolls they decided it was in their best interest to settle. That's par for the course. We settled a lawsuit our attorney said we could probably win, but recommended settling, simply because it was cheaper and removed the uncertainty of the lawsuit's outcome.
It's interesting they have managed to stay in business despite the changes in the headphone marketplace. Their executives also managed to cash out some $30million in stock when reddit ran the price up. That as more than the company was worth prior to the run up.
No, Apple actually deploys its patented technologies in real-world products and services. That doesn't damage innovation. Apple doesn't patent hoard with the goal of collecting royalties from the real innovators who build actual functioning products and services.
Like all corporations it uses its patents to keep others from creating products that are described in the patent forms. Apple likely has tons of patents that never made it into real products. Same as everyone else.
lot of companies do and most of the time it is probably mistake, since Apple is huge it gets in news and more people are willing to sue Apple because they have money. Who would sue Chinese manufacturer.