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Apple Shareholder Meeting Notes: iPhone, iTunes Movies, Jobs' Successor

Cassie said:


Lately, he seems to have become even more of an ego maniac then he previously was. His ideas have always been a little different, and yeah, that's what makes Apple the company we love, but some of the products that have come out lately don't seem to make a lot of sense in where they are targeted/how to use them and what they are for in general..
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More of an ego maniac? I think you might not have been around in the early days.

I was a young customer at the time but Jobs has always been a little maniacal about strange details that seemed to make no sense.

This is just off the top of my head, so don't remember all the detasil. He was very anti-gaming in the early days. I think part of the reason the Mac was black and white originally. He definitely did not want the original Mac to be expandable. No RAM, no slots. I think it took a long time to get any expansion at all in the Mac.

stuff like that. I think Jobs has mellowed in his recent years, if anything.

edit: some quotes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_128K

Steve Jobs insisted that the Macintosh ship without a fan, a marketing (not engineering) decision that persisted until the introduction of the Macintosh SE in 1987, after Jobs was forced out of Apple. This was the source of many common — and very expensive — component failures in the first four Macintosh models
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http://www.landsnail.com/apple/local/design/macintosh.html

In order to reduce costs, Jobs' insisted that the Macintosh be sold with 128 k of RAM rather than the then hugely expensive 1 Mb placed into the Lisa. The Macintosh team wrote software to fit within this limited memory, but so little was left free that copying a disk had to be done in stages, requiring a frustrating number of disk changes (Levy, 187-9). A hard drive could have elevated some of this problem, but Jobs refused to include one as it would not only increase the price, but also make the machine less elegant; Jobs had long thought that noise from the necessary fan made a computer seem "inelegant" and impersonal (Kunkel, 16).
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Jobs had forbidden the Macintosh team even to provide the capacity for more memory, but Smith defied him, building the potential for expansion to 512 k in the design.
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arn said:
He definitely did not want the original Mac to be expandable. No RAM, no slots.
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He was against networking too. The engineering team literally snuck AppleTalk into the Mac without Steve's knowledge. That turned out to be one of the reasons the Mac survived.
 
iJesus said:
Nooo!

I thought that Steve was immortal!
I cannot imagine :apple: without him!
:(


I just feel that without him, the soul of Apple is gone....
... no more reality distortion fields, SteveNotes, or the forever trendy black mock turtleneck.
:mad:
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Or the word "Boom". :(
 
Cassie,
what possibly do you base that on? On the few times we see him on stage, or quoted by the press?
If anything, the product decision Apple has made seem to make absolute sense. Point at one product that you are referring to ?!

The Air for example was a form factor long clamored for and appears very well targeted for a specific audience. If you have beef with lack of ports for example - that's another (design) story.
If anything, even product that has -arguably- initially failed (Apple TV) has been improved to make it more usable for a general audience.

If SJ is an egomaniac (and I think he's a lot more mellow than he used to be!) there is little translation into Apple Products. He is displayed as The Public Image of Apple - and does it very well. Don't believe that these decision, in reality, are made in a vacuum. He's too shrewd a business man for that.

cheers
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Cassie said:


Lately, he seems to have become even more of an ego maniac then he previously was. His ideas have always been a little different, and yeah, that's what makes Apple the company we love, but some of the products that have come out lately don't seem to make a lot of sense in where they are targeted/how to use them and what they are for in general.

It seems like he's running out of great idea's, and is just pulling stuff out of his @$$.
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all this talk of successors makes me want to crawl up in a corner and cover my ears. if steve leaves i will die.
 
I don't get why people are so upset when Steve leaves Apple. As Steve said in his 2005 Stanford commencement. He's talking about death there. But for me, it means the same for when he leaves Apple. Why?

Beause Steve said then, that death is the single best invention of life. A way, to clear the old, and make way for the new. And that is as it should be.

And I think he's right. Under Steve, Apple is a sort of company that has his spirit, and his way of thinking. But to make way for a new way of thinking, and that is neccesary, the old has to be cleared. In this way, Steve.

I'm not saying Steve should be leaving anytime soon, because I love the way he rules Apple, and how he invents, and pushes the tech world forward, in new and innovative ways. But when he has to go, it's just the time for that then, and the new will come in. Which will bring other, innovative things.

:apple::rolleyes:
 
TheSpecialist said:
I love the way he rules Apple, and how he invents, and pushes the tech world forward, in new and innovative ways.
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I think too many people give SJ too much credit. Steve doesn't invent or innovate. Apple invents and innovates.

Steve sells. He is number one, a salesman. He also has a strong veto power over products that Apple develops or releases for sale.

However, he has never developed, invented, or personally created any hardware or software. He is not even an idea man. He gives opinions on products developed but he doesn't design or provide initial ideas for a product. Apple engineers, designers, programmers, and other specialists do all the work.

Woz was an engineer and designed the first Apple & Apple II. Steve arranged marketing and sales.

Steve heads the corporation and is the face of Apple.
 
digitalbiker said:
I think too many people give SJ too much credit. Steve doesn't invent or innovate. Apple invents and innovates.

Steve sells. He is number one, a salesman. He also has a strong veto power over products that Apple develops or releases for sale.

However, he has never developed, invented, or personally created any hardware or software. He is not even an idea man. He gives opinions on products developed but he doesn't design or provide initial ideas for a product. Apple engineers, designers, programmers, and other specialists do all the work.

Woz was an engineer and designed the first Apple & Apple II. Steve arranged marketing and sales.

Steve heads the corporation and is the face of Apple.
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It's at least a little more complicated than that. Apple's entire product line reflects the Jobs influence, as I think any of us who've lived through the days when others ran the company know well. Jobs decides which project go forward and which designs will be sold and which ones are rejected.
 
I am 99.999% certain that Jobs will step down as CEO of Apple sometime in the next 30 years. Ive might not be a good choice, "operationally," but he would be pretty cool. However, Tim Cook seems like he would make a good replacement. Now, there will never be an exact copy of Jobs once he leaves. We shouldn't expect that. Instead, the next CEO will need to stand on his own merits and personality.

On the bright side, once Jobs retires, he can finally join MacRumors and post here to his heart's content. :D
 
Job's Successor

How about Gil Amelio?
He should succeed Jobs.
Or better yet, Michael Eisner.
Eh? Why not, they'd be great for Apple.

An Apple without Jobs is like a ship with 100 holes on the bottom, and nobody to steer it in the right direction. :(
 
Um.. I don't get all the anti-Steve here.

Apple almost went under in the mid-90s. Steve came back and suddenly out popped the iMac, the iBook, then Mac OS X, iPod, etc. At the same time, Macs went from dull biege boxes that were lost among the PCs as more expensive, less compatible versions to having their identity and edge back. Apple is back at the forefront of innovation once more.

Concidence? :rolleyes:
 
eliamx said:
How about Gil Amelio?
He should succeed Jobs.
Or better yet, Michael Eisner.
Eh? Why not, they'd be great for Apple.

An Apple without Jobs is like a ship with 100 holes on the bottom, and nobody to steer it in the right direction. :(
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No, it's not. Seriously, Jobs is a great CEO, but there are many others who would do just as good a job.
 
rowanmmcdonald said:
all this talk of successors makes me want to crawl up in a corner and cover my ears. if steve leaves i will die.
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If you are seriously that attached to a person you don't even know, maybe you should die along with him... :rolleyes: Do you fantasize about Jobs every night before you go to bed?
 
Quillz said:
No, it's not. Seriously, Jobs is a great CEO, but there are many others who would do just as good a job.
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Name 'em. After all the mediocre to poor CEOs that Apple had before Jobs (all of whom looked good on paper at the time), I wonder what rabbit is going to jump out of which hat.
 
im quite happy to take charge of apple! i do actually have much in common with his ethos and history. but no doubt some coke seller will end up taking charge running it like a 'normal' business and screwing it up again. 98% of CEO's have no style or character and are frankly bollox IMO.
 
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interesting. Hopefully jobs will stay awhile though
 
Prof. said:
I want Jony Ive to be the next CEO of Apple. He's cool guy. (not that i want Mr. Jobs to leave or anything).

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For those of you who don't know, that's Jony Ive
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Jony Ive is the only guy that could actually give presentations with the same charisma and skill as Jobs... actually I think he does a better job.. look at his unibody presentation.. he gave the presentation like he had an intimate relationship with the device.. yes people.. I said.. The british accent helps information retension.. lol
 
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