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Props to Vizio for supporting all the way to 2017
I'm glad it'll work with mine. Apple must have been planning this for a year or two. I'm amazed at how quickly it's rolling out to such a wide selection of brands. Apple's "Services" category is gradually shoring up the company.
 
I just wish you could purchase a decent "dumb" TV that doesn't have an operating system. I have a 2017 LG OLED and I use my Apple TV for everything. The OS on the TV is just another thing that needs updating if the vendor actually updates it. I would much rather update the Apple TV every 3-4 yrs. and have the latest OS and security updates.

LG throw out quite regular updates for the 2017 OLEDs. They may not have features you want like Airplay, but they do update it. However, I've noticed that the auto update via the TV often doesn't pick up updates, so I regularly check the website and update via USB.
 
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You know there’s this gadget called Apple TV that will outperform any of these TVs with built-in support. Have you ever tried to use the built-in apps like Netflix, Amazon Prime, etc? Can you say sloooooowwwww? No need to shed a tear.

Yep.

And...I would never connect my smart TV directly to the internet. Too much opportunity for mischief with open microphones, pushed ads, etc. My 4K ATV protects against that. I also like the unified user interface and excellent performance.
 



A few days ago, Apple announced that AirPlay 2-enabled smart TVs are coming soon from leading manufacturers, and we've since seen a series of announcements from Samsung, LG, Sony, and Vizio at CES 2019.

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Apple has now shared a list of AirPlay 2-enabled TVs announced to date:
LG OLED (2019)
LG NanoCell SM9X series (2019)
LG NanoCell SM8X series (2019)
LG UHD UM7X series (2019)
Samsung QLED Series (2019 and 2018)
Samsung 8 Series (2019 and 2018)
Samsung 7 Series (2019 and 2018)
Samsung 6 Series (2019 and 2018)
Samsung 5 Series (2019 and 2018)
Samsung 4 Series (2019 and 2018)
Sony Z9G Series (2019)
Sony A9G Series (2019)
Sony X950G Series (2019)
Sony X850G Series (2019 85", 75", 65" and 55" models)
Vizio P-Series Quantum (2019 and 2018)
Vizio P-Series (2019, 2018 and 2017)
Vizio M-Series (2019, 2018 and 2017)
Vizio E-Series (2019, 2018 and 2017)
Vizio D-series (2019, 2018 and 2017)We've yet to see any AirPlay 2 announcements from smaller brands such as TCL, Hisense, Panasonic, or Toshiba.

AirPlay 2 support will allow users to stream video, audio, photos, and more directly from an iPhone, iPad, or Mac to supported smart TVs. HomeKit support is also coming to many of these TVs, enabling users to control volume, playback, and more using Siri or the Home app on an iPhone, iPad, or Mac.

Samsung announced that its latest smart TVs are also getting an exclusive iTunes TV and movie app for accessing the storefront.

Apple is widely expected to launch a Netflix-esque streaming video service later this year, and AirPlay 2 support on leading smart TVs would make it easier for users to stream Apple's original content on the big screen without an Apple TV. Rumors suggest Apple could introduce the service within the first half of 2019.

Article Link: Apple Shares List of AirPlay 2-Enabled Smart TVs From Samsung, LG, Sony, and Vizio
Well at last I will be able to use my home pods with my tv I presume - up to now they only functioned through my apple tv?
 
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Even if I had one of these supported TVs I wouldn't use the TV if I wanted this, I'd buy an Apple TV. Except those are overpriced. Hopefully cheaper Apple TVs are coming. I realise that lowering prices of anything seems anathema to Apple of late, but it may be we've seen that trend peak, and a price reduction on Apple TVs would be a nice way to ease into a more sane pricing policy overall. Fingers crossed anyway.
 
You know there’s this gadget called Apple TV that will outperform any of these TVs with built-in support. Have you ever tried to use the built-in apps like Netflix, Amazon Prime, etc? Can you say sloooooowwwww? No need to shed a tear.
Yes, I have, and yes, I know. As another poster said, it's very likely the Apple is dictating the hardware requirements, thus limiting this to newer, more capable models. You need to look at this from an average consumer perspective though, aka the ones who don't care all that much about tech and don't like the idea of having to buy yet another device because their 2018 LG or Sony 4K/HDR TV's don't support this. That's exactly how those folks lose their faith in tech imo.
 
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Yes, buying an up-tp-date Apple TV with a decent ARM CPU seems to be the better way to go head.
It works on every HDMI TV.

I don't think that the casual TV user cares for iTunes on the TV.
They need an Apple ID and are probably already in the eco-system with iOS.
So an additional Apple TV will not hurt them.

I think it makes for massive articles, but will not boost iTunes content use.

This makes most sense, the iTunes app will serve well for a few, but I can't see this being a bigger deal than people are making out.

I don't use my Smart TV apps as they are uber slow, so i'll stick with my AppleTV untill Apple officially stop supporting it.
 
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Yes, I have, and yes, I know. As another poster said, it's very likely the Apple is dictating the hardware requirements, thus limiting this to newer, more capable models. You need to look at this from an average consumer perspective though, aka the ones who don't care all that much about tech and don't like the idea of having to buy yet another device because their 2018 LG or Sony 4K/HDR TV's don't support this. That's exactly how those folks lose their faith in tech imo.

Also, would those people be willing to buy content through iTunes though? They will be able pay for Netflix and Amazon monthly/annually and watch what they want, will they want to buy movies from iTunes for $5+ a pop? I would guess not personally.

I think this is all gearing up for iTunes Streaming solution that apple are working on, it needs to be a badass service though as they are years behind. This could end up going very well, or very very badly.
 
Hopefully Vizio expands this to also include the 2016 P-Series as they are the exact same hardware as the 2017 models, they just changed the remote they included. I don't care so much about the Airplay 2 but I would love the Homekit to be able to switch inputs and power with Siri.
 
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This makes most sense, the iTunes app will serve well for a few, but I can't see this being a bigger deal than people are making out.

I don't use my Smart TV apps as they are uber slow, so i'll stick with my AppleTV untill Apple officially stop supporting it.

I know most people are looking at this from their own personal use at home. But imagine you get an Airbnb and you forget to bring your Apple TV. The place has a compatible TV that supports Airplay/iTunes.

Problem solved for your Apple streaming needs.
 
On A Separate Note: PANASONIC
Anyway, Panasonic was apparently too invested in plasma, so when OLED and other refinements came along they weren't ready. They ended plasma production in '14 and basically pulled their TVs out of the US market. Whether they come back remains to be seen.

Panasonic is heavily into commercial and consumer rechargeable batteries now.

Tesla!:)
 
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Also, would those people be willing to buy content through iTunes though? They will be able pay for Netflix and Amazon monthly/annually and watch what they want, will they want to buy movies from iTunes for $5+ a pop? I would guess not personally.

I think this is all gearing up for iTunes Streaming solution that apple are working on, it needs to be a badass service though as they are years behind. This could end up going very well, or very very badly.
Certainly a fair point re: those consumers purchasing iTunes movies. Maybe the won't use it, maybe they will.

On another note, if Apple's end-game for the streaming service is to implement it through iTunes as this news could suggest, I think it has a higher chance to fail miserably. It's been 18 years since iTunes first release, and in my opinion, it's still terrible at most things.
 
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Anyone have a suggestion for a 3rd party remote that can control the AppleTV well? I can't stand the Siri Remote (especially considering the lack of mute button).

I use a Logitech Harmony 650. No trackpad or microphone but otherwise works well with the ATV for me (and all my other components)
 
I just wish you could purchase a decent "dumb" TV that doesn't have an operating system. I have a 2017 LG OLED and I use my Apple TV for everything. The OS on the TV is just another thing that needs updating if the vendor actually updates it. I would much rather update the Apple TV every 3-4 yrs. and have the latest OS and security updates.
You can, indeed.
That is, if you get a computer monitor, rather than a TV, and able to live with backlighted LED/LCD rather than OLED.

In my case, a 32-in LG 4K UHD monitor with a Roku Streaming Stick provides front-end streaming controls and serves double-duty: as TV and as desktop monitor.
 
Shedding a collective tear for all those folks (myself included) that purchased a non-supported TV within the last few years.

I literally just bought an LG UHD set in late November.

As others have suggested - I could plug in an Apple TV, but that's just another thing to buy. The TV already has Netflix, Amazon Prime, Hulu and a few other common apps built-in. It is so nice to just plug in the TV with the only wire being the power cord.
 
I bought two Samsung UE75NU8000 in October 2018, are these the 8 series TV's that are being referred to? If so how do I get Airplay to work through the TV? This will be great as I can ditch the Apple TV which is taking up 1 of only 4 HDMI ports and Airplay is the only time I actually use the Apple TV.
 
Im a little confused with the 3 things mentioned
Airplay 2
Itunes
Homekit

what's the difference?

Which tv company will implement this best?

I'm going to buy new tv very soon
 
That's cool that the new 7 series Samsung we just bought will work with airplay 2, I'm guessing with a software update, but we have an apple TV on it so I'm not sure it will ever be used. I guess we could move the ATV to another TV and use the Samsung's native smart features.
 
So if your TV is older you can buy one of these or, and hear me out, just get an Apple TV? It will do the same thing.
 
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Which tv company will implement this best?
That's very much TBD. I'll lean towards Vizio since it's offering wider support for older models, hinting that Apple feels comfortable enough with Vizio's hardware and their ability to run these services.
 
The reason Apple is releasing iTunes and Airplay 2 to all these TVs is to support their new subscription service they are launching this year. In the growing world of "subscription services", this makes sense to reach as many people as possible post 2017. Disney+ will probably be making a similar announcement when they are ready to launch.
 
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I am assuming at some point these TV’s will get a version of the TV app that will show all the users iTunes and Apple streaming service content
 
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