A 'pro' user doesn't and shouldn't need to call support to install a SSD...
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It's crazy but true: SATA is just too slow for this machine. Put your SATA drive in an external enclosure. Using SATA drives internally would be kneecapping your brand new box. Why would you want to do that?
You can add four RAIDed hard drives via the R4i MPX module - or two Intel chipset interfaced SATA hard drives via the J2i module. Of course, you could install SSDs in place of the "hard drives"...
Only if the industry moves that way. Apple made this mainly in response to their pro user base who love having modularity/upgradeability so much, that they damn near went to the PC side to get it because Apple had stopped giving it to them.
Now if PC users suddenly are okay with it, then yeah you might be on to something there. But physical hardware upgradeability, at least at the pro desktop level like this, will still be a thing for quite a few years to come I think.
Promise Technologies already has a couple options for increasing internal storage. Of course, any PCIe based storage solution will work. There are even a couple connectors with power readily available (and visible in images) but I am finding it difficult locating the page I saw previously on this. What I do not believe you will find anywhere is a sled to slide the SSD into within the Mac Pro enclosure. For that we are waiting on 3rd party solutions that will hopefully not take up a PCIe slot, though I am not sure that is possible. Time will tell, it was just released this morning.Question: Can a person that has purchased an $8000 computer buy an additional 256GB SSD and install it themselves???
Is this computer an open architecture with regards to hardware or NOT
My biggest concern is the lack of information on replacing the CPU. Even if I had to buy an Apple CPU module I would rather have that than no option whatsoever. Hopefully Apple will post definitive information on this soon, or iFixit / OWC / whatever will figure it out. In fairness I don't believe I have ever upgraded a CPU in any computer I have owned but for the new Mac Pro it would be a huge advantage being able to.
Unless you have proof of quantity of military use this point is simply propaganda......Also, I don't need this type of lock down of a computer I am paying $8000+ to be upgradable. IT'S MY COMPUTER!! The reason for this is Apple is looking for service money
Apple marketed the MP as everything was going to be upgradable.....where's the document for changing/upgrading CPU, where's the document for changing/upgrading SSD's....
The new society is not capable of changing/upgradin/fixing/repairing anything and becoming more ignorant every year.... All they comprehend is pushing buttons for emoji's on their iPhone.
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Keep in mind we're dealing with a new Apple users who gets excited with introduced emoji's has know comprehension tools, repairing, upgrading anything.
One is paying $8000+ for computer that was marketed as be upgradable for the pro user and now we can't change/upgrade/add an SSD, can't change/upgrade CPU... now debating whether to buy after waiting so long...
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I think you get a new frame with wheels integrated... or that’s how the store description read.
What do you mean by locked down? It seems everything is changeable except the CPU. I’m actually surprised the PS is so easily swapped out.
Do you have proof that the military isn't buying Mac Pros? The military is bigger than our imaginations.
Don’t... I can’t imagine seeing it every day would bring feelings of joy. More likely the opposite.
The best thing is, if you’ve being getting by with an old machine, you can continue to get by with it. Buy a used or refurb replacement for when yours dies one day and never even look at any of this ever again
No the the SSD's that are defined as "storage encrypted by the Apple T2 Security Chip".....
If purchase MP with one 256gb SSD and want to another 256gb SSD.....Can I mirror OS drive for backup, can I install my SSD on MY COMPUTER THAT I PAID $8000+
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That equates to "no proof"....uninformed.
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Don’t... I can’t imagine seeing it every day would bring feelings of joy. More likely the opposite.
The best thing is, if you’ve being getting by with an old machine, you can continue to get by with it. Buy a used or refurb replacement for when yours dies one day and never even look at any of this ever again
You fit perfectly into the Zombie society.....😂
There are all sorts of professionals. Just because someone uses a computer for a job doesn't mean that person knows what's going on inside the computer. Just because people know a lot doesn't mean they know everything.
After reading through this, I have a feeling almost everyone complaining about how terrible the MP is either isn’t in their target market or don’t plan to ever buy one.
Wrong!! I've been waiting and ready to purchase but not naive and ignorant as some who don't question what has been marketed. Started with a Quadra 950 not an iPhone......
Looking for answers on CPU and SSD user changeability.
My job isn't to explain reality to you. If you can't afford the MP or it doesn't fit your needs you can go join another forum.
Of course there is SATA on the board.
They're selling a 2 drive SATA sled (which comes with 1 8TB HD).
It's not expensive.
https://www.apple.com/shop/product/...ternal-storage-enclosure-for-mac-pro?fnode=5f
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If everyone was thinking this way, we would've never had Toy Story and other Disney movies that always required hardware multiple times the cost of a house. Guess what, they were still making money with it.
Businesses write off depreciation. Even back in the 80s companies paid $60K for a gigabyte of hard drive, because some needed the storage, and couldn't solve their problem any other way.
I'm just here to also say I am not buying this cause I can't afford it but I'm not buying it not cause of that reason but for some random negative critique I have about its look.
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A house you say, where can I get a house for $65k. Thanks in advance
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A house you say, where can I get a house for $65k. Thanks in advance
A truck driver, with minimal education, has a $150,000 vehicle do to their job. A heavy machine operator drives an excavator worth up to $500,000. A machinist has a CNC mill that costs $200,000. A radiologist lives around a $3 Million MRI machine.
A middle-class desk worker looks at a $5000 computer and says it's too much and says it's a worthless asset.
This is why the middle class is shrinking: while others gain efficiency and productivity via advanced high-tech machinery and automation, people who sit in front of a computer lose out.
Long time lurker..
I remember spending $35,000 in 1992 for an SGI Indigo machine. When that baby arrived on the wood crate everything else got dropped. It was a game changer! Forced things like spending $2k for a 1 Gigabyte external drive... Don't see this $35,000 machine (in 2019 dollars) being in that same category.
I remember spending $35,000 in 1992 for an SGI Indigo machine. When that baby arrived on the wood crate everything else got dropped. It was a game changer! Forced things like spending $2k for a 1 Gigabyte external drive... Don't see this $35,000 machine (in 2019 dollars) being in that same category.
Hmm...Where's the video on how to upgrade your CPU?
Is Apple, or another vendor, offering compatible CPU upgrade options? Did Apple provide CPU upgrade information on previous Mac Pros?
EXACTLY --wrong. This statement is so incorrect it borders on flat-earther mentality.
A "pro" user is someone who uses their computer for professional applications. That does NOT make them tinkerers (though they might be). For that "pro" user, it simply isn't cost-effective for them to work on their own system. If you command money from James Cameron/Steven Spielberg for doing editing on their next "big things" to the tune of $200 an hour, spending a couple of hours doing your own tech support at $25 is a really bad deal.
You're better off doing your work an some other machine while you pay someone else to handle the light work of installing an SSD (or just ordering it that way in the first place). I don't install SSDs in my computer I work. I take it over to IT and say "can you guys upgrade this thing?" Do I know how to install an SSD? Sure. But, that isn't what my boss pays me to do. We've got people for that.
Now, somewhere out there is an over achieving pro user who will, for whatever reason, want to install their own SSD. This person will do the same thing everyone else did/does who wants to take this path. Because they weren't born knowing how to change SSDs, they will educate themselves on the process and just do it. See? Problem solved.