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If banks here offered pre-paid credit cards, as an intrim till Apple Pay get adopted, i'd do that.. if i never had a CC. or a one-time generated Card number/CSV./Expiry date.

least this would tie us all over. till Apple pay comes in mass.
 
I finally set up and used Apple Pay last week, it's absolutely fantastic!

5 seconds and it's done, you've paid and on your way and the next person in line can be served quicker too.
 
I finally set up and used Apple Pay last week, it's absolutely fantastic!

5 seconds and it's done, you've paid and on your way and the next person in line can be served quicker too.

I love Apple Pay too, although the payment method is quick I find I'm then standing around waiting for the receipt. Maybe the next step is to have the receipt sent to my phone at the same time.
 
I believe this is what distinguishes stores that support Apple Pay over stores that just support NFC. Stores that officially support Apple Pay treat your fingerprint as your signature
Whole Foods requires a signature but is an official supporter of Apple Pay.
 
I love Apple Pay too, although the payment method is quick I find I'm then standing around waiting for the receipt. Maybe the next step is to have the receipt sent to my phone at the same time.

I used Apple Pay to buy my Apple Watch at the Regent Street store in London.

Never did get my email receipt from Apple but I agree it would be a good idea.

Saves on paper.
 
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Costco just recently got chip and pin and looks like they put in antiquated cheapest equipment they could find.
I hate Costco... they always want to violate my personal property when I leave at the door (ie. my purchases I just paid for therefore are my property).


Your purchases are NOT your property until you leave and completely exit their property - including the Car Park outside.
 
How do merchants get set up to have their terminals accept ApplePay. I have run into numerous merchants who have terminals that support contactless payment but for some reason the terminals are not configured. Do they need to turn it on? Or do they need to set up something with their bank?
I'd love to have accurate information to tell them next time I come across one. So many smaller merchants have supported terminals now. It's just frustrating to see that they aren't set up.
Usually they have to press sale and enter the amount first. They're used to swiping or inserting the card first which does not activate the contactless reader. I have learned how to use every terminal on earth selling these things so I just walk the cashier how to do it and in the future it never was a problem again.

Your purchases are NOT your property until you leave and completely exit their property - including the Car Park outside.
Exactly. They can always just give you your money back and say never come here again for being a jerk leaving.
 
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I also got American Express in Canada just because of Apple Pay.
Your purchases are NOT your property until you leave and completely exit their property - including the Car Park outside.
It is my property because I paid for it. They have provision in contract where they can check your receipt to verify it is your stuff and or if cashier maybe made mistake. Also prevents others from stealing your cart. But the way they act most of time makes me feel like they think I'm a shoplifter or stealing stuff.

Exactly. They can always just give you your money back and say never come here again for being a jerk leaving.
The Costco employees at door act like jerks often.
 
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I love using AP w/ my AW. Only problem is only an infintesimal number of stores I shop at are set up for NFC. The ones that do take it like Whole Foods and Walgreens I only go into occasionally. I'm not sure why most grocery stores haven't signed up yet. Payment is a real pinch point in grocery lines. You'd think they'd be jumping on it.
 
It would be too big a barrier for entry - not everyone is going to sign up for a new credit card (even if it is very easy) just to get apple pay. Also, a lot of existing apple pay partners might get a bit peeved if Apple were to move in to the financial services industry and could pull out of apple pay.
I am in Canada and signed up for Amex just because of Apple Pay - it should be here next week. But I agree that most wouldn't.
I doing it as my part to show support, and hopefully Apple can take ApplePay data for Amex and show Canadian banks how popular it.
 
As part of the membership agreement you did agree to have your receipt checked at the exit.
Costco just recently got chip and pin and looks like they put in antiquated cheapest equipment they could find.
I hate Costco... they always want to violate my personal property when I leave at the door (ie. my purchases I just paid for therefore are my property).

They are just counting the items and checking the date on the receipt. How easy would it be for someone to enter the store again an 4 hours after they just bought a cart full of stuff and then produce the same reciept again? (that's why they use a highlighter or hole punch on the receipt.)

In some cases, like large items like TV's they also check that the item matches since it's also possible that the same cart scam could be used to switch carts at the exit.

They aren't actually checking everything.

As for AMEX or MC at Costco. They can do whatever they want. In Canada they also accept Interac.

I never use Interac, I prefer the "peace of mind" the credit card offers. You only do Interac (direct debit) if you have no credit, thus you're "poor", and therefor don't get the anti-fraud coverage of a credit card.
 
Your purchases are NOT your property until you leave and completely exit their property - including the Car Park outside.

Exactly. They can always just give you your money back and say never come here again for being a jerk leaving.

It is my property because I paid for it. They have provision in contract where they can check your receipt to verify it is your stuff and or if cashier maybe made mistake. Also prevents others from stealing your cart. But the way they act most of time makes me feel like they think I'm a shoplifter or stealing stuff.

Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV. If you want legal advice, consult a professional.

Your mileage may vary, depending on the country and state you are in. In the US, the merchant generally has no right to stop you unless they suspect you of theft.

However, they don't have the right to search you (including your most recent purchase), unless security is a sworn police officer, and he/she has an suspicion you have committed a crime. It can't just be a "you look shady" suspicion: he/she has to have some evidence, observation, or witness to a crime.

Costco is an exception, because you must sign a membership agreement to make a purchase there. Buried in the membership agreement is a clause in which you agree to a bag search when exiting.

A merchant MAY also be able to do a bag search f they post a big sign at the entrance that says you are subject to a bag search on exit, and that you agree to it by entering the premises. But, I'm not sure that's ever been tested in court.
 
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I finally set up and used Apple Pay last week, it's absolutely fantastic!

5 seconds and it's done, you've paid and on your way and the next person in line can be served quicker too.
I used it for the first time just now, mostly based on this article. I agree, it was very easy to do.
 
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Costco just recently got chip and pin and looks like they put in antiquated cheapest equipment they could find.
I hate Costco... they always want to violate my personal property when I leave at the door (ie. my purchases I just paid for therefore are my property).
suit yourself I love buying my toilet paper 54 rolls at a time at dirt cheap prices
 
I am in Canada and signed up for Amex just because of Apple Pay - it should be here next week. But I agree that most wouldn't.
I doing it as my part to show support, and hopefully Apple can take ApplePay data for Amex and show Canadian banks how popular it.
hopefully you got the amex gold - that thing is a really good card for points. i just learned you can convert the points to aeroplan in a 1:1 basis too.
 
Have not been able to use it that much yet. Once at Wallgreen's which turned out to be a bad experience because of a bug in there system, and once at Apple without any issues. Most stores it seems have not even started using cards with chip yet. They have started getting the readers about a month or so ago but have not enabled anything other than swipe.
In more advanced countries (read Canada), chip and pin and NFC has been there for years at just about 90% of merchants. The banks are balking and don't want to give up any of their piece of the pie, which is why AMEX came in. They are not affiliated to any bank. What sucks is that pretty much nobody accepts them.
 
Love Apple Pay... but almost everywhere I use it, it asks me to sign. I just draw a straight line.
The reason for the signing, credit card issuers in the US get higher fees on signature transactions then pin transactions. If credit issuers allowed chip and pin the losses in revenue cold potentially be staggering.
 
hopefully you got the amex gold - that thing is a really good card for points. i just learned you can convert the points to aeroplan in a 1:1 basis too.
I just got the simplycash for now. I didn't want a fee and my goal is to use for small purchases and keep it paid off. I have Visa aerogold infinite and enough eroplan points already that I don't use. Cash back is good enough to try Amex.
 
The reason for the signing, credit card issuers in the US get higher fees on signature transactions then pin transactions. If credit issuers allowed chip and pin the losses in revenue cold potentially be staggering.

Might have been true back before 2011 or so but not so much now thanks to the Durbin rules.
 
I used to know someone who had a AMEX card in Canada. Then, Costco switched to MasterCard and that was the end of it.

Meh, they gave me a new card after costco dropped themthat has NFC and chip and pin. It doesn't cost me anything and all I use it for is paypal.
 
I've had it work 2 out of 5 merchants I've tried so far. Not too bad considering it's less than a week old. Hopefully two things happen:
1. Obviously it would be idea for banks to support Apple Pay so I can use my debit card
2. Merchants that accept Amex but have their NFC disabled, enable tap for Apple Pay
 
I use ApplePay with fingerprint scanner every chance I get. I love the convenience, but that's not the real reason I use it. Unlike Samsung, your real credit card number doesn't get sent to the merchant with Apple Pay. The security is exactly what the financial industry needs.

Before commenting, do your research: "Samsung also claims that it replaces "sensitive card data" with token payments. The retailer receives only "a device-specific token and a dynamic, one-time-use security code."

And when you use Samsung pay, you don't need to take the chance of the merchant not accepting it as a form of payment, as the only places that Samsung pay doesn't work are gas stations and parking meters; where the whole card needs to go inside the machine.
 
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How do merchants get set up to have their terminals accept ApplePay. I have run into numerous merchants who have terminals that support contactless payment but for some reason the terminals are not configured. Do they need to turn it on? Or do they need to set up something with their bank?
I'd love to have accurate information to tell them next time I come across one. So many smaller merchants have supported terminals now. It's just frustrating to see that they aren't set up.
I work in a shop in the UK which has a regular contactless system and we have people use Apple Pay all the time. Nothing had to be done to any of the shop's equipment
 
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