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So the DMA/DSA is going to FORCE people to buy Apple, and then consequently FORCE Apple to cater to the every demand of these FORCED consumers? Lol, or at least I sure hope you are joking.
I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not but just in case, I suggest you look them up. Doesn't hurt.
 
That’s quite a list. Good thing nobody here cares if you switch or not

Please, stay right where you’re at

If I switch back to any Android device I want:

Do I finally get to enjoy the next 6 years worth of updates on that same device?
Funny thing is, my father's LeEco Le Max 2 is rocking Android 12 after being forgotten by the OEM. Mind you, it came with Android 6. Just because the software isn't from LeEco it doesn't make it any less good.

But you might not like it since it's a custom ROM. That's fine; just know that the possibility exists.
 
I'm not a WhatsApp user because Facebook, but it's pretty huge for some people. I was migrating some relatives over to iPhone who had lots of years of history here, and this was nearly a deal breaker.

WhatsApp itself CANNOT DO IT - your message history is all stored on your device. The only way to do it is with dodgy 3rd party software which started installing viruses on my desktop as well.

So yeah, anyway, think about the apps you care about and research them.

I believe if you backup to the cloud you can download your whatsapp back into an iphone

WARNING: FB + Whatsapp is a toxic company that violates privacy and tracks people. uploading to the cloud breaks the encryption AKA the cloud service can read everything and keep a copy of it, and possibly Whatsapp/FB too.

What does that have to do with money (and thus, greed)? The goal of every company is to grow. There's never a point where a company wants to stop growing.

There is a limit to greed. Coca-Cola can't possibly aim (although they wish) that every human on earth will not drink anything other Coca cola.

If Apple wants to expand there are other markets where they have a lower percentage like Macs, office software, routeres (which people keep asking to bring back). Truth is they know iphone is their gold laying goose and they want to lock them in their App Store that apple generates a cut from for being the gate keeper.

I am not against the business model but I see other areas where they can generate money instead of forcing everyone on earth to use an iphone.

I wouldn’t be averse to iOS and android swapping market share.

I am an Apple fanboy but there is a couple of things to consider:-

1) Having a mono-dou-oligo-poly is not in the interest of the general public. Its just too much power in the hand of one. Literally planet earth is work its life based on iOS. You can only expect the damage that will happen if Apple rolled out a flawed iOS version or just stopped working completely (same goes to google, microsoft windows, etc) . I just do not like one company having too much control.

2) The recent CSAM and other data collection method I am very wary of. We really do need more competition and stricter privacy regulations. One of the things that bothers me most that now most OS platforms you have to sign in to an online account to let you use the device. I assure you that you did not have to sign in into an account with OS9, Windows XP, or Nokia phones to be able to use it. Something is fishy here.
 
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Funny thing is, my father's LeEco Le Max 2 is rocking Android 12 after being forgotten by the OEM. Mind you, it came with Android 6. Just because the software isn't from LeEco it doesn't make it any less good.

But you might not like it since it's a custom ROM. That's fine; just know that the possibility exists.
Funny thing is, you missed my post #134 where I stated my smart phone experience started with Android with rooting, unlocking bootloaders and loading customers everything. Custom ROM’s is what I did.

I’m talking about buying what’s new, Apple or Android and being able to expect 5-6 major OTA updates and everything in between for the next 5-6 years. Security updates most likely going beyond that.

This thread is about moving from Android to Apple (if one so chooses). Not about what one can do while Jailbreaking iPhones or Rooting and putting custom ROM’s on Android.
 
Funny thing is, you missed my post #134 where I stated my smart phone experience started with Android with rooting, unlocking bootloaders and loading customers everything. Custom ROM’s is what I did.

I’m talking about buying what’s new, Apple or Android and being able to expect 5-6 major OTA updates and everything in between for the next 5-6 years. Security updates most likely going beyond that.
You asked if you can, I gave you a solution. Now you're trying to back out saying you're talking about new devices? They can also be updated beyond official updates.
 
You asked if you can, I gave you a solution. Now you're trying to back out saying you're talking about new devices? They can also be updated beyond official updates.
Back out of what? I said any Android device I want. If I were to update and switch back, it would be new. And rooting and loading a custom ROM to stay up to date isn’t a solution for someone that no longer is interested in doing that.

It’s definitely not a solution for a non-tech savvy consumer that just wants to buy a product and have the security of being updated for more than a year or two before losing support.
 
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You do realize how crazy that is? You’re suggesting that he’s lying to shareholders and essentially committing fraud.
What's crazy is your misinterpretation of what you read in my quote. I'm not suggesting Cook is lying. Nothing in my quote even remotely implies that. I stated simple fact: In none of those quotes does Cook ever mention a single quantifiable number that can be used to qualify the success of Android switching. Basically what he said is some amount of Android users switched. How many? Nope. How many more than the previous year? Nope. What qualifies as a record number of switchers? Nope. He pretty much made marketing statements sans facts. And no, that's not lying. It's just marketing. Until we get numbers, that's all it is.
 
Funny thing is, my father's LeEco Le Max 2 is rocking Android 12 after being forgotten by the OEM. Mind you, it came with Android 6. Just because the software isn't from LeEco it doesn't make it any less good.

But you might not like it since it's a custom ROM. That's fine; just know that the possibility exists.
The average individual will never install a custom ROM in their lifetime. 🤷‍♂️
I see other areas where they can generate money instead of forcing everyone on earth to use an iphone.

I am an Apple fanboy
Apple isn’t forcing you to use an iPhone. “Forcing” people to use the App Store is a whole different argument though.

And as for you being an Apple fanboy, have you ever heard of this expression?
What's crazy is your misinterpretation of what you read in my quote. I'm not suggesting Cook is lying. Nothing in my quote even remotely implies that. I stated simple fact: In none of those quotes does Cook ever mention a single quantifiable number that can be used to qualify the success of Android switching. Basically what he said is some amount of Android users switched. How many? Nope. How many more than the previous year? Nope. What qualifies as a record number of switchers? Nope. He pretty much made marketing statements sans facts. And no, that's not lying. It's just marketing. Until we get numbers, that's all it is.
You must be misinterpreting what you wrote then (or maybe you’re just trying to be sly with your wording)…

If Sundar Pichai said that “some amount” of iOS users switched to Android, would you not believe that to be “marketing” (as you put it in your own words)?
 
You must be misinterpreting what you wrote then (or maybe you’re just trying to be sly with your wording)…

If Sundar Pichai said that “some amount” of iOS users switched to Android, would you not believe that to be “marketing” (as you put it in your own words)?
Next time try reading my quote within the context of claim by Abazigal. Ya know, the claim I was responding to in this thread. There's nothing sly about my words, even when you try to parse them out of context. Tim Cook is not saying anything definitive about Android switchers. That's simple fact. I'd challenge you to find anything close to being measurable fact in his statements about Android switchers. You can't. Thats the point I'm making. His statements are tantamount to marketing. He's not making a material statement so he isn't lying. Again, there's never been an implication that he is. If you're seeing one, I can't help you. From the statements in those quotes Abazigal supplied, neither you nor anyone else can glean any information about how successful Apple is getting Android users to switch.
 
I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not but just in case, I suggest you look them up. Doesn't hurts
No sarcasm my friend.

Learn. Not everyone wants their government to manipulate free market economy. It is the classic debate: more government intervention or less. My vote is strongly less. You are allowed to believe your opinion, if you are prepared to discuss the real economics further let me know.
 
No sarcasm my friend.

Learn. Not everyone wants their government to manipulate free market economy. It is the classic debate: more government intervention or less. My vote is strongly less. You are allowed to believe your opinion, if you are prepared to discuss the real economics further let me know.
Even if you believe in less government intervention, there's no conceivable way regulation aimed at the App Store would force Android users to switch to iOS. This isn't about economics, it's simply an impossible scenario.
 
Individuality is a threat to the horde.
Let me be clearer
I am telling you got no business telling me what I should be ok with, and for you to accept your boundaries. The same way I am not gonna tell you that there is no way that you are not happy with your iOS experience. Wishing you all the best fellow 1 and 0 s
Your elitism is showing…

Only professional photographers will care (you know, people who obsess over every little detail about their massive camera collection)…

You do realize how crazy that is? You’re suggesting that he’s lying to shareholders and essentially committing fraud.

Said who?

So you’re just assuming that everybody else is having the same bad experience as you?

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How can I delete this?
You need to be a contributor.
Individuality is a threat to the horde.
Let me be clearer
I am telling you got no business telling me what I should be ok with, and for you to accept your boundaries. The same way I am not gonna tell you that there is no way that you are not happy with your iOS experience. Wishing you all the best fellow 1 and 0 s
Sorry, but this is an open forum. People are allowed to share what they want. 🤷‍♂️
 
You need to be a contributor.

Sorry, but this is an open forum. People are allowed to share what they want. 🤷‍♂️
Indeed, but telling me that I am wrong for stating what my experience is not valuable, nor factual. I respect that your experience is great, mine is not and I got regrets. I don’t need your doubt, nor you telling me What your expectatio of my experience is. After all you did tag me. any How share what you want, power to you. I am just gonna keep telling you the same thing. no hard feeling on my part fellow 1 and 0 s.
 
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