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I'm still on the fence but will probably buy one soon.
I wish Apple would have sweetened the pot and added an Apple Music promo since you really need it to use it.

But my question is, they delay it like 3 months and still release it with beta iOS and missing features?
What have they been doing for 3 months?

Working on the software.

9 women can’t make a baby in 1 month. Some things just can’t be rushed.
 
Every once in a while Apple comes up with these little projects that are destined to flop. The HomePod is crippled by Siri, and it's support of only one music platform. Unfortunately like most Apple products the hardware is top of the line, it's the software that destroys it. Why release a product that is only compatible with trash software.

It needs voice control, Apple isn't going to use someone else's voice control. I personally have very little issue with Siri. I use it daily. I create messages while driving, set timers, reminders and it's the fast way to control home IoT.
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Honestly if I decide to buy a smart speaker it will probably be by google, as I’m considering switching over to Android. I’m tired of Apples bs. You spend a ton of money on phone just to have it slowed down after one year. That is ridonculous!
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Good luck, have fun with Google...
 
Honestly if I decide to buy a smart speaker it will probably be by google, as I’m considering switching over to Android. I’m tired of Apples bs. You spend a ton of money on phone just to have it slowed down after one year. That is ridonculous!
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Oh no! What happened to your one year old phone?
 
I like practicality over brand too.

As someone who happens to have a Mac, an iPhone and subscribes to Apple Music, and values audio quality over all the smart speaker stuff, it made practical sense for us to get a HomePod rather than go for Sonos because of its brand.

Seriously, is this crap about people buying Apple products because of the brand, rather than them actually being good solid products that make practical sense to a lot of people ever going to stop?
I’m glad that you’re happy with your vertically-integrated setup. I have different priorities and as a rule I like to use things that leave the door open for competition. Sonos with Alexa or GoogleHome doesn’t limit me like HomePod would. I’m not Apple-hater, I have a stainless steel AW, iPhone and MacBook.
 
Is it OK with you? Because the reason I called you out was because you seemed to think it was unacceptable for someone to switch from HomePod to Sonos.

Unacceptable? Seriously? Nope. I've been saying all along purchase what makes you happy, and that includes you as well.

For example, look at post #255 where I said: "There are plenty of Spotify choices. Simply buy one of them and be happy."
 
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If Apple Music had public playlists like Spotify as well as easier navigation to artists and albums then I would agree. I wish I wouldn’t have to jump between the two when I’m trying to find something new. Spotify’s radio feature is far more superior. When I play a song radio in Apple Music I usually get about 10 to 15 songs that have absolutely nothing in common with what was playing previously. If Spotify had an interface like iTunes I would switch in a heartbeat. I love iOS as well, until my Device gets slowed down by the the next update.

AM has the ability to share playlists with other people using AM now.

Easier navigation to artists and albums? Easier than two taps to either?

Library > Artists
or
Library > Albums
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I’m glad that you’re happy with your vertically-integrated setup. I have different priorities and as a rule I like to use things that leave the door open for competition. Sonos with Alexa or GoogleHome doesn’t limit me like HomePod would. I’m not Apple-hater, I have a stainless steel AW, iPhone and MacBook.

Oh, 'vertically integrated setup' sounds serious.

I guess I'm easily pleased - my priority is having the ability to easily listen to all my music on something that sounds reasonably decent.

Time will tell if the open up Spotify etc to Siri, but I honestly don't see using Airplay from a phone even that limiting. Even with Siri, I've been using that as much as Siri anyway.
 
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Unacceptable? Seriously? Nope. I've been saying all along purchase what makes you happy, and that includes you as well.

I think the other poster has got you mixed up with the person who posted right at the start of the thread between you and them.
 
Unacceptable? Seriously? Nope. I've been saying all along purchase what makes you happy, and that includes you as well.

For example, look at post #255 where I said: "There are plenty of Spotify choices. Simply buy one of them and be happy."
I think the other poster has got you mixed up with the person who posted right at the start of the thread between you and them.
He’s right, I got you confused with someone else. My apologies.
 
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I go into business making a $29 device that converts Bluetooth speaker protocol into Airplay 1/2? Alexa play ........
[doublepost=1519052005][/doublepost]My $40 Panasonic cordless phone handset can originate and receive calls through my iPhone. It/Paanasonic does this by faking it is a car. Apple can't figure this out with the hPod?
 
I go into business making a $29 device that converts Bluetooth speaker protocol into Airplay 1/2? Alexa play ........
[doublepost=1519052005][/doublepost]My $40 Panasonic cordless phone handset can originate and receive calls through my iPhone. It/Paanasonic does this by faking it is a car. Apple can't figure this out with the hPod?

You really think they couldn't figure it out, they chose to not enable it. And really why would you need BT over airplay? BT great for headphones and when your in your car, but if you have AP, its going to sound better.
 
So much disdain for the HomePod. I’m curious how many have tested the HomePod before they actually disparage against the sound produced. Give this Product some time, it will continually improve though software updates.

Presumably those posts come from people who already own Sonos and are slightly sore that the entire world appears to acknowledge that the Homepod audio quality is superior; and if sound quality matters (most) to you Sonos is the second choice.

Software upgrades will come, upgrading Sonos 1 audio quality... not so easy.
 
I just returned mine today. I am a huge fan of Apple products. Have a mac, 2 laptops 5 phones, and 3 iPads in the house. I really wanted to love this product, but after using it for a week, i just can't see what everyone is raving about. My Sonos Play 3 blows it out of the water. Did i get a defective unit? After i returned it this morning i strolled over to the display area and listened to the one they had playing. Sounded the same as the one i just returned. Im a little disappointed because we had planned to buy multiple HomePods and place them throughout the house.
The one bright spot was Siri worked perfectly for us. Always getting errors when using with the phone but rarely with the HopePod.
And my HomePod sounds better to me than the $600 Sonos 5 that is sitting in my closet.
 
I think the Sonos ecosystem is actually pretty cool. I can completely understand how folks get hooked on it. And Sonos gear is no small investment in its own right so I can also completely understand how folks would feel "trapped" to remain with that ecosystem after a large investment in whole house audio via Sonos.

Sonos might have sucked me in *if* they had released a better sounding speaker with Alexa built in. In December, right after Apple announced that HomePod would be delayed, Best Buy was having a sale on the Sonos ONE for $175 each. I spent a fair bit of time at the Sonos display in my local Best Buy listening to the Sonos ONE, Sonos Play:1 and Sonos Play:3. To my ears, the ONE and Play:1 sounded identical with every type of music. And both of them sounded significantly INFERIOR to the Play:3. As much as I liked the idea of getting several Sonos ONEs for $175 each, complete with Alexa, I just wasn't willing to compromise THAT much on the sound quality of my (eventual) whole house music system.

If Sonos had released a Sonos THREE (Play:3) with Alexa built in for $299, I am pretty certain I would have pulled the trigger in December and jumped into the Sonos ecosystem.

But, they didn't and I didn't. And, today, I'm glad they didn't. Because, HomePod sounds even better than Play:3. HomePod doesn't have a relatively narrow "sweet spot" like Play:3. And, importantly, according to my wife, HomePod isn't butt ugly like Play:3. She was NOT thrilled with the idea of the largish Play:3 speakers sitting in every room around the house. She feels the HomePod is MUCH more attractive.

I'm very grateful that Apple delivered such an outstanding speaker with a very high wife acceptance factor. As much as I love my wife I wouldn't want to give up sound quality for aesthetics and, thanks to Apple's ingenious and attractive design, I don't have to. I got the best sounding speaker AND the best looking speaker all in one package.

Mark
 
I'm very grateful that Apple delivered such an outstanding speaker with a very high wife acceptance factor. As much as I love my wife I wouldn't want to give up sound quality for aesthetics and, thanks to Apple's ingenious and attractive design, I don't have to. I got the best sounding speaker AND the best looking speaker all in one package.

Mark


Mark I think might have settled the whole thing with that little tidbit of wisdom ;).

Seriously. My wife came home and asked how much I spent just like she always does when I buy a speaker (it's one of my "hobbies"). She hasn't said another word and is using it every day. Its the strangest thing I've ever seen. I'm surprised I'm only noticing this now. Man, Apple is sneaky good!
 
I think the Sonos ecosystem is actually pretty cool. I can completely understand how folks get hooked on it. And Sonos gear is no small investment in its own right so I can also completely understand how folks would feel "trapped" to remain with that ecosystem after a large investment in whole house audio via Sonos.

Sonos might have sucked me in *if* they had released a better sounding speaker with Alexa built in. In December, right after Apple announced that HomePod would be delayed, Best Buy was having a sale on the Sonos ONE for $175 each. I spent a fair bit of time at the Sonos display in my local Best Buy listening to the Sonos ONE, Sonos Play:1 and Sonos Play:3. To my ears, the ONE and Play:1 sounded identical with every type of music. And both of them sounded significantly INFERIOR to the Play:3. As much as I liked the idea of getting several Sonos ONEs for $175 each, complete with Alexa, I just wasn't willing to compromise THAT much on the sound quality of my (eventual) whole house music system.

If Sonos had released a Sonos THREE (Play:3) with Alexa built in for $299, I am pretty certain I would have pulled the trigger in December and jumped into the Sonos ecosystem.

But, they didn't and I didn't. And, today, I'm glad they didn't. Because, HomePod sounds even better than Play:3. HomePod doesn't have a relatively narrow "sweet spot" like Play:3. And, importantly, according to my wife, HomePod isn't butt ugly like Play:3. She was NOT thrilled with the idea of the largish Play:3 speakers sitting in every room around the house. She feels the HomePod is MUCH more attractive.

I'm very grateful that Apple delivered such an outstanding speaker with a very high wife acceptance factor. As much as I love my wife I wouldn't want to give up sound quality for aesthetics and, thanks to Apple's ingenious and attractive design, I don't have to. I got the best sounding speaker AND the best looking speaker all in one package.

Mark
The play 1’s in Stereo mode sound good but still prefer my Home Pod. I will be carrying on with buying Sonos as I want to have a wife friendly surround sound set up. Going forward will buy the Home Pod without any hesitation to put in other rooms in fact probably buy another just to pair with the other. I know people complained about the sound over the Apple TV being low but for me it was quite loud even at 45% and fully synced with the film. It sounded great. Really pleased with it and if you have a lot of Apple products fits in nicely.
 
I've looked at Sonos in the past, but it always seemed like something was around the corner in terms of convenience, and I think we're there now, with the whole streaming / voice control / beam forming mic tech. If Sonos had had the beam forming thing down as good as it is on the HP, and their app for using AM had been better, and HP didn't exist, I'd probably have Sonos by now.

But as it is, the HP just fits perfectly in our house. And yes - very high wife acceptance factor! It sits in the kitchen, so she's actually in there more than I am listening to music. No, not doing kitchen stuff, but getting ready in the morning, or doing jigsaw puzzles on the kitchen table for a bit more early evenings before I finish work. She's addicted. And she's taken to the HP and asking Siri to play stuff like a duck to water.
 
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What do you want to stream BT from?

It's not that I have a specific thing I want BT for. It's that it's needlessly limited. Instead of me re-hashing all the problems with that, here's a good video that shows the limitations of not having the same BT streaming capabilities that other smart speakers have.

 
It's not that I have a specific thing I want BT for. It's that it's needlessly limited. Instead of me re-hashing all the problems with that, here's a good video that shows the limitations of not having the same BT streaming capabilities that other smart speakers have.

Not sure why anyone would want BT when they can use Airplay. It’s not a portable speaker, like a jawbone, so where would you use it that you couldn’t use Airplay?

Also, could be me, but does Sonos have BT connectivity? I have a Play:1 and Play:3, now both going to kids, but have never really looked for BT connectivity (since they’re wifi and not portable).
 
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It's not that I have a specific thing I want BT for. It's that it's needlessly limited. Instead of me re-hashing all the problems with that, here's a good video that shows the limitations of not having the same BT streaming capabilities that other smart speakers have.


Near the start he seems to be suggesting you can’t use Spotify because it only supports AirPlay and not BT.

I still seem to be missing something here - if you can stream content to it using AirPlay, what exactly can’t you do that you would be able to with BT?
 
It's not that I have a specific thing I want BT for. It's that it's needlessly limited. Instead of me re-hashing all the problems with that, here's a good video that shows the limitations of not having the same BT streaming capabilities that other smart speakers have.


The person in this video has an iPhone, why would use BT, airplay is going to be way better from an iOS device. You can airplay anything from your phone to the HP. And you can't look up recipes, how are you going to use it without a screen???
 
A friend who purchased a HomePod recently brought it to a Pro recording Studio last night to A/B the sound against a 2015 Bose Mini soundlink. While 2 staff Engineers present who's ears were use to listening to the in house Yamaha NS10 reference monitors that day which tend to be more dry sounding w little ear fatigue the opinion was unanimous. Where the HomePod was clearly louder and more powerful the Bose blew it away in the clarity, mid, high and real bass tone dept. The HomePod tended to be more muddy and break up at high levels however there was not a dispute in the quality of sound as much as the price differential between the two. One would argue that you are paying more for the Siri feature which many believe including reviews has a lot to be desired. Regardless he still is happy with his purchase but then again money is not an object for him.
 
All those videos on how to use Apple devices. Makes me longer for the old days of Apple when their products just worked and anyone could figure them out. Video less user experience.;)
 
A friend who purchased a HomePod recently brought it to a Pro recording Studio last night to A/B the sound against a 2015 Bose Mini soundlink. While 2 staff Engineers present who's ears were use to listening to the in house Yamaha NS10 reference monitors that day which tend to be more dry sounding w little ear fatigue the opinion was unanimous. Where the HomePod was clearly louder and more powerful the Bose blew it away in the clarity, mid, high and real bass tone dept. The HomePod tended to be more muddy and break up at high levels however there was not a dispute in the quality of sound as much as the price differential between the two. One would argue that you are paying more for the Siri feature which many believe including reviews has a lot to be desired. Regardless he still is happy with his purchase but then again money is not an object for him.
Really? Bose, the most artificial bass speakers ever, and the HP is muddy? Lol, to each his own...
 
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