And that should pretty much have ended this debate here and now.
Not that the pro-PC, anti-iPad crowd are ever going to let this slide, of course.
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And that should pretty much have ended this debate here and now.
Not that the pro-PC, anti-iPad crowd are ever going to let this slide, of course.
Mac users are in denial, most users can already get away with using an ipad as their main device now, steve jobs predicted this and how traditional pc users aka pc and mac users will feel uncomfortable and this thread is proof:
Macs are trucks, iPads are cars.
Macs are trucks, iPads are cars.
Wow, you have no idea what can be accomplished with an iPad! You need to get with the times.
We've actually been seeing the proof of every single WWDC or Apple Event presentation of their Mac line since!
With all the executive VP's non of the hardware level are part of the product introduction video anymore:
Madsen, Ricci, (Forstall with iPhone), etc etc.
Prior to 2017 (since 2014, I think) I've only seen Michael TChao for 2016's iPad Pro 9.7" since then it's always Jony Ive the designer - not a hardware engineer.
- only the last iMac Pro introduction was done by someone other than Tim Cook, Phil Schiller or Federighi. What's the point of being a VP if you cannot introduce a component of the product you lead your team to create/innovate? Ah yes it's just for stock options to mature and cash out.
> sorry Apple Watch still has 2 people present other than the usual 3 but I see that changing in 2019 as well.
Soon we'll ONLY see Cook and Schiller present products / while Que does services (rightfully so as ALL are under this watchful work). Apple Watch will soon goto Schiller I'm sure, unless he retires soon.
I'd like to see the VP's in charge of the teams that work on hardware have THEIR say in the hardware of products launched/announced ... I grow weary of hearing Ive's voice spit a new "British-English" word of the year from Apple. (e.g. Camphered).
Talking in-depth about hardware's components and inner workings (beyond the CPU) is becoming less and less important to Apple unless it's a major breakout hardware component or the camera (on iPhone/iPad). What's more important is the features and how the tech is used by YOU .. the user.
If we look towards the future of computing, especially with more services and features based, accessible, and soon used directly from/within "the cloud" you'll see our devices becoming less distinctly unique or on their own and more like those dumb-terminals of a forgone era prior to 1979. In essense much like a web connected terminal as we see in the story of Superman's Krypton. Maybe in 3 generations it's no longer our traditional computers, phones, or tablets .. but an AI, cloud driven assistant robotic companion ... one that maybe walking at our side, hovering above us at outside family events or maybe something that we can wear as a backback to be out of our way. Futher being part of a backpack exoskeleton for the disabled or elderly. We'll see this before we get to accept the implant stage.
radical and of course heavily opinionated ... but think ... in the last 10yrs we've gone from radical phone/smartphone designs to a rectangular square! No majore iMac redign in 12-14 years, even Microsoft's Surface Studio is getting close to its functional design structure elements.
It doesn't get to be much less obvious than that - that our understanding of what is a computer/PC is far from just what the OS can do, but moreover how it's taken/taking shape, and further of how we use/what we use it for!
Just to follow the car/truck analogy: Every driver of both cars and trucks can see and control everything just the same, but not so much with macOS and iOS. Sure they both compute, but be sure to compare their computing at the process level. Even the post claiming that coders can code with a blog link that has the outline that the user is simply using remote desktop to reach his desktop machine. That's like steering my car with a MFi controller.
Many folks simply cannot use iPads for their main tasks because the OS does not allow them to customize their devices to their needs, besides a curated App Store of sandboxed programs. Programs or apps are not everything for a workflow, what we criticize is not even the variety and functionality of apps but rather being able to choose the developer, choose the source of install, to actually browse everything imaginable beyond just our documents and to tinker with the OS as we see fit just the same like with macOS (imagine the benefits with the likes of Little Snitch), which Apple tackles as just as secure.
We are not criticizing the iPad because we don't see it as a replacement for desktop tasks but rather because Apple blanks out unused space. We actually want to trash the desktop hardware to do everything possible with our iPads, but the software foundation must exist first. Until then, we are just doing micro tasks using sandboxed programs on a sandboxed OS.
Maybe the iPad qualifies for the dictionary interpretation of "computer" if you go back to the creation of the word in order to teach babies understand things, but it sure as hell does not qualify for "getting serious sh** done" which in the first place has nothing to do with hardware horse power but with the capability to interact with a device and all subsystems on more than just one interface and also not just one thing after another but all simultaneously.
Many folks simply cannot use iPads for their main tasks because the OS does not allow them to customize their devices to their needs, besides a curated App Store of sandboxed programs. Programs or apps are not everything for a workflow, what we criticize is not even the variety and functionality of apps but rather being able to choose the developer, choose the source of install, to actually browse everything imaginable beyond just our documents and to tinker with the OS as we see fit just the same like with macOS (imagine the benefits with the likes of Little Snitch), which Apple tackles as just as secure.
We are not criticizing the iPad because we don't see it as a replacement for desktop tasks but rather because Apple blanks out unused space. We actually want to trash the desktop hardware to do everything possible with our iPads, but the software foundation must exist first. Until then, we are just doing micro tasks using sandboxed programs on a sandboxed OS.
Maybe the iPad qualifies for the dictionary interpretation of "computer" if you go back to the creation of the word in order to teach babies understand things, but it sure as hell does not qualify for "getting serious sh** done" which in the first place has nothing to do with hardware horse power but with the capability to interact with a device and all subsystems on more than just one interface and also not just one thing after another but all simultaneously.
If you are claiming that MacOS and iOS are different animals requiring separate development paths, I am with you. Feature exchange has become ridiculous (with launchpad etc.) and apparently has to conceal the lack of inspiration/direction at Apple.
I thought they DO have their separate development paths ever since TChao returned to Apple:
iPad Pro, multi-tasking dual app use Files having a big role as well.
I think a slow run will occur where OSX begins to evolve into iPadOS or a TabletOS moving away from iOS or iOS moves along with it.
PS: OSX ... I still loathe calling it MacOS - just because Federighi wanted it that way, it's not MacOS that predated OSX and makes me feel like we're going backwards in advancement)
Great memory. Did Apple not call the G4 cpu a "super computer" as well when it debuted, referencing computational power to the Cray Super Computer?
I still want the 9.7" Pro ... will cop one soon!
Nothing is stopping these people from sticking with their desktops and laptops for doing the work they need to get done. What I am struggling to understand is the massive amount of vitriol towards a product which the critics should have little to no emotional investment in.
Sure, you can’t do your job from an iPad. That doesn’t mean there aren’t other people who are using an iPad for meaningful work. Will it kill these people to acknowledge that the iPad is not without its merits and go back to their MacBooks and iMacs? What’s with all the derision and negativity surrounding the iPad?
The only explanation I can come up with for this is fear. These people fear the iPad and the future it stands for - a new era of computing for which they have no place in. Apple has signalled its intention to keep pushing the iPad as the general computer for masses, and these critics fear (perhaps justifiably so) that this may well come at the expense of continued Mac development.
To which I gleefully rub my hands together and go “excellent”...
iPad is a computer already is like saying an iPhone is a computer already. For some people, a smartphone is your personal computer already, but as per my view, no ios product can replace a true computer as I use it.
Nothing is stopping these people from sticking with their desktops and laptops for doing the work they need to get done. What I am struggling to understand is the massive amount of vitriol towards a product which the critics should have little to no emotional investment in.
Sure, you can’t do your job from an iPad. That doesn’t mean there aren’t other people who are using an iPad for meaningful work. Will it kill these people to acknowledge that the iPad is not without its merits and go back to their MacBooks and iMacs? What’s with all the derision and negativity surrounding the iPad?
The only explanation I can come up with for this is fear. These people fear the iPad and the future it stands for - a new era of computing for which they have no place in. Apple has signalled its intention to keep pushing the iPad as the general computer for masses, and these critics fear (perhaps justifiably so) that this may well come at the expense of continued Mac development.
To which I gleefully rub my hands together and go “excellent”...
I don't really understand how people can defend a device that came after another to seemingly replace the former "computer" iteration while only being able to do less besides the obvious "new" interface. The hardware solution has been made, but the software fails to deliver solutions for everyone, which is the exact opposite for desktop computers.
Also, if this new era is an era in which the manufacturer rather than the developer gets to decide if software can be used on their respective OS and a renamed iCloud Drive app with some plugins is worth being called a Files app, then so be it. Just don't cry when this era also means that you get no more updates for your curated apps or the OS itself.
When Apple themselves do everything on iPads, I'll accept that the iPad is a computer replacement.
I'd love to see them build operating systems, design products, perform payroll, run customer services, compile accounts, research the best tax avoidance schemes, sort High Sierra security flaws etc. all on iPads.
I'd love to see them build operating systems, design products, perform payroll, run customer services, compile accounts, research the best tax avoidance schemes, sort High Sierra security flaws etc. all on iPads.
I am a primary school teacher (mostly handling 11-12 year old kids).
I use my 9.7" iPad Pro to teach in the classroom, which is mirrored to the smart board via an Apple TV (3rd gen for the peer to peer AirPlay capabilities). Apple Pencil is awesome for annotating on PDF documents. My iPad is light and portable, with long battery life and inbuilt 4g.
The iPad does less, but what it can do, it does better than a conventional computer. I still use my Mac for the heavy lifting at home, but at my workplace is where my iPad shines. My MacBook Air is seeing less and less use these days.
All this talk of whether the iPad can replace the computer is disingenuous and counterproductive. We should be talking about what the iPad excels in and sharing our experiences with making the iPad work for us. Not dismiss it outright just because it can’t perform some niche task which 90% of users won’t need.
The iPad does not “seemingly replace” a desktop. But the iPad is another option for those who don’t need all the power and flexibility of the desktop.
It is a different computer from a desktop, but shouldn’t be frightening or threatening to those who still need a desktop.
Sorry, man, but that comment actually just shows how out of touch you are with children & tech. The kid in that spot is FOURTEEN years old! In two years she will be driving a 2 ton vehicle. Schools regularly issue real-live laptops to kids much younger than that. Every kid in my family, and in my friends' families, has been using an iPad or tablet since they were 5 and are often given their own by age 10-12, sometimes younger.
This ad is spot on.
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I really like Files! But unfortunately, until it allows you to create folders inside of folders inside of folders, it (and iCloud) won't replace Dropbox for me. I really hope they change this soon. One level of folders is just too few.
I like the message overall, but it falls flat on the "whats a computer" part. an iPad is a computer. she's using one. She's got one right there in her hand.
What's a computer? it's a machine that allows for the input, digestion, and output of information. an Ipad is barely different than any other computer. in fact, it's no different.
it contains:
Method of input. Method of computation (CPU, RAM, motherboard, etc) and output.
Just because it's a handheld computer, (AKA as a Tablet Computer), doesn't suddenly make it NOT a computer.
Where the iPad varies from a traditional "Computer" that we see today isn't anything related to hardware. it's purely the software limitations that are imposed by Apple to limit it's capabilities.
by stating the "What's a computer", Apple's trying to differentiate the iPad here as something apart, different, "better" than it is. if Apple released a iPad that ran identical software to their MacOS computers, would this conversation even happen?
What's a computer? it's a machine that allows for the input, digestion, and output of information. an Ipad is barely different than any other computer. in fact, it's no different.
it contains:
Method of input. Method of computation (CPU, RAM, motherboard, etc) and output.
Just because it's a handheld computer, (AKA as a Tablet Computer), doesn't suddenly make it NOT a computer.
Where the iPad varies from a traditional "Computer" that we see today isn't anything related to hardware. it's purely the software limitations that are imposed by Apple to limit it's capabilities.
by stating the "What's a computer", Apple's trying to differentiate the iPad here as something apart, different, "better" than it is. if Apple released a iPad that ran identical software to their MacOS computers, would this conversation even happen?
Exactly! Lame, I hate this spot because of that end line
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I agree,I don’t do any work on my iPad, but it has replaced my TV “what’s a TV?”
RIP Macs
iOS can now do everything better than macOS like recognizing an external hard drive. Oh wait...
iOS can now do everything better than macOS like recognizing an external hard drive. Oh wait...
The shocker which I know someone who recently discovered is it costs $449 starting to replace the screen out of warranty. Even if you just crack the top layer glass and not the LCD you still have to replace the whole assembly since the glass is lamented to the LCD. That's why Amazon Fire HD 10 tablets are outselling since starting cost is $85 when on sale and if the child breaks it it's no big deal.
With this ad Apple is trying to appeal to the transgender community. A "girl' trying to look and act like a boy.Bravo
Apple today shared a new "What's a computer" iPad Pro ad on its YouTube channel, highlighting the myriad things an iPad Pro can do along with new iPad features introduced in iOS 11.
The video, set to the song "Go" by Louis The Child," shows off the iPad's versatility as a computer replacement, following a teen as she chats with friends, takes and edits photos, writes a paper, draws with the Apple Pencil, reads comics, and more while on the go.
Features and accessories covered in the video include split-screen multitasking, the iOS 11 dock, the iPad's camera capabilities, the Apple Pencil, the Smart Keyboard, and photo markup
At the end of the spot, the teen's mom asks her "What are you doing on your computer?" And she responds, "What's a computer?"
Apple has shared multiple iPad Pro ads in the past, positioning the device as a computer replacement. Most recently, Apple published several short tutorial videos designed to show off all of the new features introduced on iPad in iOS 11
Article Link: Apple Shares New 'What's a Computer' Ad Focused on iPad Pro Features
[doublepost=1516572805][/doublepost]This advert really winds me up with her saying "what's a computer" as if she doesn't know what it is!!!
Apple today shared a new "What's a computer" iPad Pro ad on its YouTube channel, highlighting the myriad things an iPad Pro can do along with new iPad features introduced in iOS 11.
The video, set to the song "Go" by Louis The Child," shows off the iPad's versatility as a computer replacement, following a teen as she chats with friends, takes and edits photos, writes a paper, draws with the Apple Pencil, reads comics, and more while on the go.
Features and accessories covered in the video include split-screen multitasking, the iOS 11 dock, the iPad's camera capabilities, the Apple Pencil, the Smart Keyboard, and photo markup
At the end of the spot, the teen's mom asks her "What are you doing on your computer?" And she responds, "What's a computer?"
Apple has shared multiple iPad Pro ads in the past, positioning the device as a computer replacement. Most recently, Apple published several short tutorial videos designed to show off all of the new features introduced on iPad in iOS 11
Article Link: Apple Shares New 'What's a Computer' Ad Focused on iPad Pro Features
Definition of computer:
"an electronic device which is capable of receiving information (data) in a particular form and of performing a sequence of operations in accordance with a predetermined but variable set of procedural instructions (program) to produce a result in the form of information or signals."
I can't stand this advert!!!!!!!!!