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I have read that Tim Cook was accidentally "outed" on a news show. I guess this explains the overwhelming support. Having said that, I thought the video was well made.
 
Ironically, to be a devil's advocate … I wonder if Apple would take part in a parade for Jesus. And not just about making money off of the "Christmas" season.

Since such a parade would inevitably turn out to be not a parade FOR Jesus, but an excuse to peddle hatred towards others... no.

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that is illegal ... just so you are aware.

Just so you know... no it isn't.

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USA does not allow discrimination based on sexuality.

Yes, it absolutely does. Stop spouting such misinformation.
 
Since such a parade would inevitably turn out to be not a parade FOR Jesus, but an excuse to peddle hatred towards others... no.

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Just so you know... no it isn't.

you live in canada, i doubt you would really know.

here is the US governments federal website proving me correct.

http://www.eeoc.gov/laws/types/sex.cfm

... Discrimination against an individual because that person is transgender is discrimination because of sex in violation of Title VII. This is also known as gender identity discrimination. In addition, lesbian, gay, and bisexual individuals may bring sex discrimination claims.
 
that is illegal ... just so you are aware.

you're mistaken, unfortunately.

Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 prohibits employers with 15 or more employees from discriminating against employees or job applicants on the basis of race, color, sex, religion, or national origin. Title VII covers hiring, firing, promotion, compensation, benefits, training opportunities, and any other term, condition, or privilege of employment. The exact definition of 15 or more employees means 15 or more people on the payroll for 20 or more weeks in the current or calendar year.

Title VII allows churches and religious organizations to discriminate on the basis of religion. Title VII states that it does not apply to ". . . a religious corporation, association, educational institution, or society with respect to the employment of individuals of a particular religion to perform work connected with the carrying on by such corporation, association, educational institution, or society of its activities."
 
And what is so very terrible about this that some feel the need to publicly express their distaste? As if it is any of your concern how other live their lives... seriously... think about it...

Don't like something?
Fine, no worries don't part take!
or does some one have a gun to your head? No? Then, sup?
 
you live in canada, i doubt you would really know.

here is the US governments federal website proving me correct.

http://www.eeoc.gov/laws/types/sex.cfm

Sex. Not sexual orientation.

Please educate yourself. Are you SERIOUSLY unaware that up till a couple of years ago people were being thrown out of the US Armed Forces for being gay? That in over half the states, as well as federally there is NO legislation forbidding discrimination on the grounds of sexual orientation?

FFS, inform yourself before spouting such ill-informed nonsense.
 
Ironically, to be a devil's advocate … I wonder if Apple would take part in a parade for Jesus. And not just about making money off of the "Christmas" season.

Apple is it's own religion and Jobs is their Jesus, only they have to pay taxes. Jobs, Woz, and Ive make up the holy trinity.
 
you're mistaken, unfortunately.

Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 prohibits employers with 15 or more employees from discriminating against employees or job applicants on the basis of race, color, sex, religion, or national origin. Title VII covers hiring, firing, promotion, compensation, benefits, training opportunities, and any other term, condition, or privilege of employment. The exact definition of 15 or more employees means 15 or more people on the payroll for 20 or more weeks in the current or calendar year.

Title VII allows churches and religious organizations to discriminate on the basis of religion. Title VII states that it does not apply to ". . . a religious corporation, association, educational institution, or society with respect to the employment of individuals of a particular religion to perform work connected with the carrying on by such corporation, association, educational institution, or society of its activities."

so based upon your old information ... you work at a college with only 14 other people? Im sure there are more than 15 people employed there
 
you live in canada, i doubt you would really know.

here is the US governments federal website proving me correct.

http://www.eeoc.gov/laws/types/sex.cfm

... Discrimination against an individual because that person is transgender is discrimination because of sex in violation of Title VII. This is also known as gender identity discrimination. In addition, lesbian, gay, and bisexual individuals may bring sex discrimination claims.

Depends on which part of the LGBTQ umbrella, and what state. Some folks are better protected than others.

But even if there are laws on the books, it won't stop it from happening. And having hate crime laws on the books doesn't stop the hate crimes from happening. You can't really legislate away bigotry.
 
so based upon your old information ... you work at a college with only 14 other people? Im sure there are more than 15 people employed there

ok. i see that you are reading-impaired since the rest of the text literally says that it does not apply to religious institutions.
 
Sex. Not sexual orientation.

Please educate yourself. Are you SERIOUSLY unaware that up till a couple of years ago people were being thrown out of the US Armed Forces for being gay? That in over half the states, as well as federally there is NO legislation forbidding discrimination on the grounds of sexual orientation?

FFS, inform yourself before spouting such ill-informed nonsense.

read the information and educate yourself first before you make yourself look misinformed.

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ok. i see that you are reading-impaired since the rest of the text literally says that it does not apply to religious institutions.

"Title VII allows churches and religious organizations to discriminate on the basis of religion"... not sexual orientation.

apparently you are the one that is reading-impaired.

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ok. i see that you are reading-impaired since the rest of the text literally says that it does not apply to religious institutions.

for discrimination against religion! ... read what you posted!
 
Why do you think the end of discrimination would cause the end of the parade? In countries that are much further along the road in that regard than the United States the celebration just keeps getting bigger each year.

That's because pride parades are fun. It's basically a Mardi Gras for the gay community.
 
read the information and educate yourself first before you make yourself look misinformed.

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"Title VII allows churches and religious organizations to discriminate on the basis of religion"... not sexual orientation.

apparently you are the one that is reading-impaired.

People have tried to reason with you. Clearly a mistake.

Inform yourself. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_United_States

There is no need to stubbornly cling to wilful ignorance of the law.
 
I went into this thread honestly expecting to see no dissension about this, because I thought a tech community based forum such as this would have a higher level of intelligence regarding this. Disappointed to see I was wrong. We as a society have made a ton of progress on this issue but still have much work to do.
 
I disagree with any public parade designed to support an agenda and I believe that these parades are very intolerant towards views different then their own. This would also apply to a white pride parade, a catholic (or any other religion) parade, a straight pride parade, etc.
 
"Title VII allows churches and religious organizations to discriminate on the basis of religion"... not sexual orientation.

apparently you are the one that is reading-impaired.


Actually, the discrimination, as long as they claim it has a religious basis, is exempt. You can't force a religious group to hire gay people if they believe them to be "terrible sinners" or some such. Have you not really read how this stuff plays out on reality?
 
read the information and educate yourself first before you make yourself look misinformed.

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"Title VII allows churches and religious organizations to discriminate on the basis of religion"... not sexual orientation.

apparently you are the one that is reading-impaired.

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for discrimination against religion! ... read what you posted!

Okay. Say someone works at a religious institution that believes homosexuality is wrong. That person rejects their religious disapproval and is accepting of their sexual orientation, and currently in a same-sex relationship.

The institution fires them on the basis of religion because the homosexual obviously does not align with the institutions religious beliefs.

Does that help?
 
Why do you think the end of discrimination would cause the end of the parade? In countries that are much further along the road in that regard than the United States the celebration just keeps getting bigger each year.

That's why I said "not in our lifetime". It takes a *long* time for prejudice to die out :(

For example, we still have "Black History Month" here in the U.S. - someday, "Black" history will be properly represented in mainstream history books, and Black History Month no longer will be necessary.

OTOH, GLBT folk love a parade . . . ;)
 
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