Each to their own but I personally don't want Facebook and other apps making money off MY data. I also don't want my data being shared with 3rd parties who I have no affiliation with. Targeted ads are predatory.
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Apple Shares Video Explaining How App Tracking Transparency Works
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Each to their own but I personally don't want Facebook and other apps making money off MY data. I also don't want my data being shared with 3rd parties who I have no affiliation with. Targeted ads are predatory.
I'll be allowing tracking since I am a consumer who buys things and I prefer targeted ads relevant to my interest than irrelevant garbage ads.
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At Apple, Choice is the new Courage.
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Also Apple: It took us over 10 years to allow users to default their own music app. Also, we love putting notification badges on your screen for people that don't repair their iPhones at our retail stores! Choice!
At Apple, Choice is the new Courage.
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Great ad.
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They are encrypted, the only problem is that Apple holds the encryption keys.
Has anyone actually gotten these app tracking requests to appear yet? I updated iOS, turned on "allow apps to Request to Track", then deleted and reinstalled several of the apps in question, and still have not seen any requests about tracking.
How does it work in practice? If you had "limit ad tracking" turned on previously, does it remember that and automatically prevent tracking, even though no apps appear under the new "Tracking" list? What if you want to change your preferences?
Also, when deleting a reinstalling Facebook and Instagram, those apps seem to remember at least your user account name when opening for the first time, so deleting them does not actually remove ALL of their data.
How does it work in practice? If you had "limit ad tracking" turned on previously, does it remember that and automatically prevent tracking, even though no apps appear under the new "Tracking" list? What if you want to change your preferences?
Also, when deleting a reinstalling Facebook and Instagram, those apps seem to remember at least your user account name when opening for the first time, so deleting them does not actually remove ALL of their data.
thats how we all thought the internet works back in the Yahoo email days but since then I learned those coporations are so much more evil by creating a personal profile on you and spying on your to collect information and sell it to those willing to buy it.
I don’t think @toastedfroggy and I have missed the point. They are giving us a choice to select which app is ok to track our online presence and it’s ok with us. I’ve bought things based on pretty targeted ads, they helped weed out a lot of the other junk I wasn’t looking for. Also I’ve read about what it does with my data and it doesn’t bother me. My data is all over the place and that’s ok with me.
This article was pretty much what I knew about ad tracking.
www.avg.com
However, I agree that companies should give us that choice to allow or not allow, similar to other privacy practices. Some people may want to be very private while others don’t care.
This article was pretty much what I knew about ad tracking.
What Is Ad Tracking?
Ad tracking is the process of collecting data from online ad campaigns. Learn what advertising tracking is, how online ads target you, and how to stop it.
However, I agree that companies should give us that choice to allow or not allow, similar to other privacy practices. Some people may want to be very private while others don’t care.
You’re being disingenuous on purpose. If you follow the directions, it tells you specifically what to do in terms of toggling the transparency.
He's not being disingenuous. Lots of people aren't seeing these prompts, myself included.
It's literally my job to understand this feature. It's you and others who think this is *just* about Facebook and Google who don't understand the dominoes that are about to fall.
Enforcement wasn't required until submissions starting Monday so developers (who used to have 2+ weeks with a GM now had 5 days with an RC, there is a difference) have to implement the changes to their next app version (including a newer version of SKAdNetwork), and Apple has to review them, in order.
Many other developers will hold until their ad networks (both for UA and monetization) and mediation partners have given them updated SDKs and APIs that are tested against the 14.5 RC/live version as well before submitting, to avoid multiple submissions in a short period, which Apple does not like.
There's going to be some lag time. People need to calm down.
If you're on iOS 14.5 and you haven't seen a prompt yet because an app hasn't been updated, your device is already sending zeroes for the IDFA by default, so don't worry about that side of things. iOS 14.5 assume opt-in. Prior versions assume opt-in. (Which begs the question, if people have their panties in such a bunch, why did they not have Limit Ad Tracking turned on to begin with?)
That may be true in some instances, but I've read several comments from people who have two phones, and one phone is throwing the prompts and the other isn't...for the SAME APPS! So, if it's your job to understand this feature, explain that.
This isn't user error, or "disingenuousness". There is a problem with this feature, full stop.
Here's a suggestion. Maybe exhibit some humility, and ask people what they're experiencing rather than assume they're all just haplessly disingenuous, or that you've got all the answers.
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I have a friend who works in iOS development at Home Depot. He said to try their app on my phone, as it should throw the prompt. Guess what happened?
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He says it's his job to understand this so we're supposed to just take whatever he says at face value. He also said Apple apps don't need to show the popup because for Apple apps it's "opt-out" instead of "opt-in", which is just false. Apple apps simply don't show them because they don't use tracking on external apps/website's not owned by Apple. There's a huge difference between profiling people within your own apps and using data acquired from external apps/website's to create a profile.
There's people that are just not good at their jobs, so definitely don't believe everything someone says on the internet even when they say it's their job to know
ATT Is just a bait to attract users who care about privacy...
So, I was pretty exciteed about ATT and watched a lot of videos explaing it's functioning...
Came across
this very underrated video!!!
And after watching the video, the general picture(ATT being bait) seems clearer to me
So, I was pretty exciteed about ATT and watched a lot of videos explaing it's functioning...
Came across
And after watching the video, the general picture(ATT being bait) seems clearer to me
If one of the devices is set for a user under 18, ATT prompts cannot be fired. If one of the apps has updated and one hasn't (on two devices), it won't fire. If you had Limit Ad Tracking turned on in previous versions of iOS, the ATT prompt will not fire and when the app calls, it'll automatically get a no.
There are more explanations for it not happening than "Apple shipped this feature broken!"
Home Depot's app was updated on the 23rd, prior to the deadline being established. It was next updated in the store on the 30th. Try it now.
According to Apple's Developer terms of service, tracking applies to both first-party and third-party data. They chose to put THEIR privacy settings in another section of settings, and made them ON by default, not OFF.
No need for name-calling just because you don't understand data privacy standards.
14.5.1 was released today. You stated that not asking you after reenabling it was normal behavior. Obvious Apple thought differently as it "fixes an issue with App Tracking Transparency where some users who previously disabled Allow Apps to Request to Track in Settings may not receive prompts from apps after re-enabling it."
The feature shipped broken. You were wrong. Just admit it.
"This update fixes an issue with App Tracking Transparency where some users who previously disabled Allow Apps to Request to Track in Settings may not receive prompts from apps after re-enabling it. This update also provides important security updates and is recommended for all users."
I assume you didn't actually read the conversation, since the re-enabled ATT bug is not the sole cause people weren't receiving prompts. There were several reasons, and some apps are still not presenting the prompt.
In any case, not receiving the prompt means those users were sending all zeroes as an IDFA. I doubt the people moaning (including yourself) were chomping at the bit to opt-in, but instead wanted to feel superior for rejecting tracking.