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Apple Shares WWDC OS X Yosemite Video Highlighting Design Changes

Small White Car said:
Fingers vs. Cursors

A Mac can give a 3D illusion and your little arrow just flies around in that virtual space. It starts to feel real.

A tablet or phone, however, is constantly pushing back...brutally reminding your finger that you're tap-tap-tapping on something hard and flat. Touch-screen 3D illusions remain just that: an illusion. And it's an illusion that your fingers are constantly confirming as false. Better to make things look flatter so that it feels like the icons are on the glass. The illusion of a "living magazine" is the better goal there.
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While this sounds like a cogent explanation...I don't buy it. The iPhone environment is as much three dimensional as OS X. Look no further than the frosted glass effects in iOS which are now being introduced into OS X.

In both cases icons are representations of apps and there's no tactile feedback to separate one from the other. A tap on my touchpad is no different than the tap on my iPhone or iPad.

To me it looks like two different teams designed icons for their respective operating systems. And please don't get me wrong. I don't hate iOS. I use it on all my iOS devices. I just think that OS X icons look much prettier than their iOS counterparts.;)
Hexiii said:
Well, it's Jony's second year with Photoshop, he got better.
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This I could almost buy:D
 
SolRayz said:
Hmmm, nice and all but, ahem, will it be stable, fast, and efficient like SL was? Remember SL people? That was the last truly functional and stable OS Apple ever produced.
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I'm pretty sure millions of Mavericks users highly disagree.
 
DavidBlack said:
I love the new design, just like iOS 7 the design grows on you after a while.
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To each their own, I still periodically stop and think iOS 7 is a clownesque paint job, but it doesn't stop me from using it every day. Yosemite doesn't look nearly as kiddy-like, but some of the highlighted design changes still look ridiculous to me.

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mrbyu said:
I'm pretty sure millions of Mavericks users highly disagree.
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Mavericks only truly shines if your Mac has a SSD, on old-school HDDs it's slower than it should/could be.
 
The new font is HORRIBLE and difficult to read. It's too thin and light, the letter forms are too round and makes actual reading harder. (I have not looked for a "bold" preference yet.)
The bubbles over top of the items in the dock are also extremely hard to read, it's the thin Helvetica on an semi-light grey background, it gets lost when over top of a text document.
I have the DP but can not post pix at this time.
I think Apple has ignored all their OWN UI rules and this is the WORST UI change they have ever made, and I've been a Mac user since 1997/OS 7.5. :mad:
 
DoctorKrabs said:
It took them a week to upload it because they realized at WWDC that the gears spun impossibly
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Watch again and try with your fingers...the main gear is spinning clockwise and the other two are spinning counter-clockwise. That is possible.
 
The design looks like they're confused. It's like a semi-flat theme... almost but not really. I think Apple may have outsourced design to Leapfrog. The icons look terrible, almost as bad as iOS7. The features look great though.
 
Altemose said:
That doesn't help the people still on Windows Vista and Windows 7. Though for what it is worth, Gadgets was never a main feature of either operating system. To me I just viewed them as funny blinking lights that were huge memory pigs that took more and more RAM every single time it changed at all.

I am still surprised Microsoft simply hot fixed it remove even their own Gadgets from working.
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I think they thought it would be more popular than it was. Since gadgets and widgets never really took off on any platform it is probably easier to pull it than it would be to rewrite it and pull the gadgets off the servers. After all, the security fix may have been easy but the RAM problem (as you've described) could easily be more involved. Furthermore it's possible that the original person/people who wrote the code for it is no longer working on it/at Microsoft, in which they would have to rewrite it to make it work (reworking someone else's code is a headache to say the least—especially when it is full of problems like this).

If this was in the XP days I think MS would have just left it in place and encouraged upgrade to Vista or the like, so I agree this is almost uncharacteristic of them to forcibly pull it.

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mrbyu said:
I'm pretty sure millions of Mavericks users highly disagree.
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I do, but SL on an early 2008 MacBook Air and Mavericks on a 2012 Mac Mini are two completely different subjects. ;)
 
DoctorKrabs said:
It took them a week to upload it because they realized at WWDC that the gears spun impossibly
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They just changed the location of the little gears. This has nothing to do with gears spinning impossibly.

On a bigger note: skeuomorphism anyone ;-)
 
Porco said:
I still think 10.5.8 was the best-looking OS X. I guess I'll get used to Yosemite eventually.
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Its still looking good i'm still using it, all the bugs are nearly sorted on each new update and then low and behold its time for a whole lot more.
I will have to finally move on as i can not update lightroom any more and some other software as well but will have to keep SL on one drive though to avoid printer/scanner issues and whatever its called on another as long i do not have to have mavericks as i hate that name.
 
mrbyu said:
I'm pretty sure millions of Mavericks users highly disagree.
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As a Mavericks user, no, 10.6 was more stable overall (I went from 10.6 -> 10.9 so I can directly compare them). There are some good ideas and features in 10.9, but there are also quite a few regressions. It had the potential to be better but unfortunately too many rough spots make it more of a sidegrade at best, not an upgrade.

--Eric
 
bumblebritches5 said:
I use it constantly...

in fact, the only reason you either use spotlight or finder to launch apps is because you've used it forever and are used to that method of launching them, stop hating.
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That's not entirely true... it think it's way easier to launch an app with typing a few letters of its name and then hitting enter than browsing through dozens of icons. I know you can search in launchpad too. But when it comes to search, does it anything better than spotlight? Definitely not... actually it doesn't make any sense to use launchpad instead of spotlight for search because it only gives you limited information: you can only search for apps and nothing else. Why would you get used to use spotlight only for finding documents and launhpad for finding apps? It's redundant. The only time I happen to prefer launchpad to spotlight is when I've just downloaded an app from the App Store and I haven't gotten used to its name yet so its easier to lauch it from there with a click. But besides... I think it somehow doesn't work on the Mac... (let alone notification center, which I almost never open, and even if I do, I always feel uncomfortable seeing all these old and now completely irrelevant notifications - please note that I'm referring to notification center, not notifications itself; the latter is very useful. Maybe the improvements in Yosemite will make me want to use it a little bit more than now, because now the case is that I might not even notice if this function was gone for good)
 
can't please everyone…

I still don't like that redesigned Safari logo, blah.
 
mrbyu said:
That's not entirely true... it think it's way easier to launch an app with typing a few letters of its name and then hitting enter than browsing through dozens of icons. I know you can search in launchpad too. But when it comes to search, does it anything better than spotlight? Definitely not... actually it doesn't make any sense to use launchpad instead of spotlight for search because it only gives you limited information: you can only search for apps and nothing else. Why would you get used to use spotlight only for finding documents and launhpad for finding apps? It's redundant. The only time I happen to prefer launchpad to spotlight is when I've just downloaded an app from the App Store and I haven't gotten used to its name yet so its easier to lauch it from there with a click. But besides... I think it somehow doesn't work on the Mac... (let alone notification center, which I almost never open, and even if I do, I always feel uncomfortable seeing all these old and now completely irrelevant notifications - please note that I'm referring to notification center, not notifications itself; the latter is very useful. Maybe the improvements in Yosemite will make me want to use it a little bit more than now, because now the case is that I might not even notice if this function was gone for good)
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I just hit the launchpad key and type in the first few letters of the app I'm looking for, then hit enter.

Eh, I don't ever look for files with spotlight though, because I almost always know where my stuff is.

"seeing all these old and now completely irrelevant notifications" This so much though, it's like notification center is full of irrelevant, unimportant notifications, but the ones you actually care about are far more rare? like, cool, I've got 50 spam messages in my notification center, but I'm lucky to have one or two that I actually care about.
 
rocknblogger said:
Agreed, what I don't understand is why OS X icons are still great looking with depth and textures and dimension while iOS icons are just flat simple looking things. OS X 10.10 is what I more or less envisioned when it was announced that iOS was being redesigned with a flat UI.
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i agree on the icons -- the 10.10 ones are much nicer than ios7/8. especially Contacts and Settings.

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slizgi said:
Yea :| Couple hundred billion company and have that kind of "newbie design issues" in interfaces, shame on you, guys....
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where is it stated that one should never use that corner radius?
 
I was worried about the transparency, but Apple's version is so much nicer than Vista. It's more like real frosted glass and blurred enough not to be distracting.


The folder icons need to be totally redesigned, but apart from that everything is an improvement.
 
Eric5h5 said:
As a Mavericks user, no, 10.6 was more stable overall (I went from 10.6 -> 10.9 so I can directly compare them). There are some good ideas and features in 10.9, but there are also quite a few regressions. It had the potential to be better but unfortunately too many rough spots make it more of a sidegrade at best, not an upgrade.

--Eric
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i went from 10.3 to 10.9 and 10.4.11 is even stabler than 10.6.... basically because of the .11 and the fact that 10.6 was around the time macs switched to intel.... i don't know where i'm leading this to, tho. oh, yeah, more incremental updates without skipping to a whole new os update like they are doing now.

i think this is why apple is opening up a beta program. they can't find or fix the bugs quick enough for the new annual os cycle. i can bet steve jobs would have frown upon this idea. and would smack someone at apple right now if he was alive!

i think tiger was the longest running, if i am correct and i think it is the stablest. i am running it still on my 12" powerbook and it runs like a champ. the only thing it can't do is watch youtube videos that is rendered at 360p and above smoothly. but, it can play youtube videos that is at 240p tho if it is available. i have final cut express 4 on it and it can edit videos in SD format fine without KPing... unlike my newer mid-2010 MBP running 10.9.3 and fcp x or any of the apple pro apps without instantly and replicably crashing like a piece of shiny toy that just looks pretty but is messed up inside.
 
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