Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
I am just curious how long their success will last. Looking at Microsoft and all, but that was a different era of tech.
 
Numbers I'd like to see:
• What percentage of Android phones in 2017 had no head phone jack
• How many of the same have tried to do their own version of AirPods
There's financial numbers and then there's the numbers that run against what the angry mob were shouting about this time last year.
Feeling sorry for them this year. All they seem to have is "that notch - I don't like that", "someone sez Apple is discontinuing the X". :)

For what purpose? To make some effort to prove a corporate decision right based on similar moves by competitors "we" typically refer to as stupid, crooked, copycats anyway?

As a consumer, I'd still like Apple to put the headphone jack back in. I still feel it's stupid:
  • to need a dongle... OR
  • that one set of buds can't work between iPhone and Apple Macs... OR
  • using inferior quality bluetooth- while able to cover those 2 bases- generally can't connect to all kinds of other stuff (such as the seatback screens on ALL of the major airlines).
Worse, even if you get what I assume you desire- to see that a good number of Androids dropped it too- they are going USB3C, so basically their wired headphone options WILL BE MORE COMPATIBLE with Macs as plug & play, without needing a dongle.

All we consumers got out of jettisoning the headphone jack was a loss of consumer utility, fragmentation of audio connections and more to charge and keep up with in the travel bag. Those coveting Lightning or Bluetooth ALREADY had both when iPhones had a headphone jack. The headphone jack did not have to go to make AirPods possible. We simply lost something- a useful something- that is still embraced by Apple in all of their other hardware.

Lightning as a replacement audio connection has not been adopted by anything else mainstream. An expansion of Bluetooth connectivity doesn't seem any more accelerated than the general pace it was moving BEFORE Apple chose to go this way. All this time later, I fly and the only option to plug in to watch some live television is the good old headphone jack. Does anyone expect that very common use scenario to change to Lightning or Bluetooth in even the next 5 years?

iPhone 8 and iPhone X could have arrived WITH a headphone jack and not missed a beat. If either had to be a mm or two thicker to "create the space" for it, the rest of that extra space could have added some battery, perhaps reducing the need to inject secret throttling code to deal with the ramifications of "thinner" for the long run.

But let's look for ways to "I told you so" our fellow consumers unhappy about a very VERY common use utility getting stripped away from us for nothing (in consumer gain).
 
Last edited:
By Apple standards, those numbers are a failure. Many many people did not upgrade to the iPhone X. That’s not a good sign or thing.
LOL here we go. You couldn’t be more wrong. This is 2 months of potential sales and limited production as they weren’t fully ramped until likely end of Dec.

You are unbelievable.

If they really sold 30M iPhone X, the results are going to be a massive success and blowout this quarter.

Anyone who follows the company would be ecstatic with $35B in revenue from 30M iPhone X sold. That will probably push them near $100B in total rev for the quarter on $84-$87b guidance.

I can tell you’re nervous if you’re short.
 
Touch ID is still more popular than Face ID. This is the only reason Apple keeps selling 2 year old phones!

The figure they won't give you is that the iPhone 7 outsold the iPhone X. And combined, they pummeled the iPhone X!

So then what was the case last year? Your grasping at straws and enjoy Touch ID.

I’ll be happy when it’s dead for good this September.
 
Touch ID is still more popular than Face ID. This is the only reason Apple keeps selling 2 year old phones!

The figure they won't give you is that the iPhone 7 outsold the iPhone X. And combined, they pummeled the iPhone X!
Don’t confuse more popular with better. FaceID is 3 months old and will do a lot more than authenticate your phone.
[doublepost=1516763534][/doublepost]
I wonder if it would cost that much to find a cure for cancer?
Get off it. Apple isn’t in the business of curing cancer. There are plenty of companies working on that.
[doublepost=1516763576][/doublepost]
I am just curious how long their success will last. Looking at Microsoft and all, but that was a different era of tech.
Microsoft is bigger and more profitable than ever.
 
I am just curious how long their success will last. Looking at Microsoft and all, but that was a different era of tech.

I think awhile... Apple works a lot differently than other companies. Granted the technology is usually overall the same, but Apple's core vision and execution is intriguing.
 
Why is Apple selling iPhone 6s still? It's gotten out of hand how many models they sell now. Consumers are actually confused (and it's a disservice for anyone to buy a 6s at this point).

You must be rich. There are people who can't even afford an SE. But maybe if they have the good taste to prefer iOS, save up a few more months, and have aging/bad eyes requiring something bigger than an SE, they can eventually (barely) afford an 6s. That's why Apple sells it.
 
  • Like
Reactions: martyjmclean
Get off it. Apple isn’t in the business of curing cancer. There are plenty of companies working on that.
Actually I was thinking more about those throwing $600, $800, $900 or more every two years just to have something to generate selfies with or play Pokémon Go on. Never said it was Apples job to cure cancer. Just wondering if we not Apple could be more charitable when seeing that large number.
 
  • Like
Reactions: aylk
I'll take this notch (that I don't even notice anymore) in return for a screen that goes all the way to the bottom of the phone.

Anyone who still talks about the notch hasn't used an iPhone X. It's invisible after a day or two.

Orrrrrrrrr different people have different preferences and notice different things.

Like my friend's dad who returned his after 2 weeks because of...you guessed it. The notch.
 
Most think they will sell 82M iPhones in total. They sold almost 79M in the same quarter last year.

If they sold 30M X in 2 months, I am happy as an investor. Insane ramp up and well over $30B in revenue for 1 product in 57 days on sale. Amazing.

Hope everyone is ready for Apple to deliver a blowout quarter and $4/share. I believe they will do 85M iPhones and Nearly $95B in revenue if not more.

That’s too optimistic. I think 85M iPhones is realistic, but $95B revenue is too high. Apple guided for $84-87B. If they went over by that much I think we would have seen a notice of correction from them (for being way out of line compared to their guidance). Otherwise Apple might be accused of intentionally lowering guidance for some nefarious reason (like stock manipulation).
 
I'll take this notch (that I don't even notice anymore) in return for a screen that goes all the way to the bottom of the phone.

Anyone who still talks about the notch hasn't used an iPhone X. It's invisible after a day or two.
They'll prolly just fix that in future iOS version. Watching fullscreen videos and viewing fullscreen photos will not go further behind the notch.
 
A few tens of Billions is peanuts. The U.S. healthcare industry blew thru over 3.4 Trillion USD in 2016, and the number has risen since then. iPhone X Q4 revenues are less than of 1% of that.
See:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-5-5-trillion-by-2025/?utm_term=.3ca240e092e4

The healthcare industry is flush with cash unfortunately most is wasted on red tape, paperwork and overpriced pharmaceuticals that oftentimes have questionable results and side effects.

With regards to cancer research In FY 2017, NIH planed to spend $6.3 billion on cancer research and treatment development. So that few tens of billions you speak of would be significant.
[doublepost=1516767417][/doublepost]
Save those morality questions for the trolls in the politics forum :p

Was just thinking out loud and before I knew it I hit post.

Better head to bed before the trolls come looking for me.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.