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Apple Shipping Low-Cost iPhone to China Mobile
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Its not exactly a secret that Google isn't liked in China, an estimated 151.8 million Android handsets were sold in China in 2012, an estimated 90% of them without Google Play access.
Handset makers like Xiaomi operate like Amazon, they sell their phones to break even, and hope to recover the money in their own services. Most handset makers there operate their own app store.
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And that would be THE worst thing EVER that could happen to the world wide cellular phone market. Thankfully it's all only a pipedream of yours and will never happen.
It's also great to see you appear to conclude the world consists of America, and... erm... China!
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I stated on here that the 5C would be for 'emerging markets' only as that is what the rumours have ALWAYS stated, and predictably I got shot down by the masses on here
We shall see though, I would consider a 5C partly because of the fact, with a plastic shell the reception will be much better.
Right? Meanwhile, the announcement that Apple will be selling the new iPhone through NTT DOCOMO, Japan's largest carrier, wasn't a "Page 1" story on MR.
american in china
I've been living in china for almost a year now.
And for the first time I am interested in an apple product release not for the upcoming product (not too exciting, just a repackaged iphone5) but purely for the business implications.
My two cents, for what its worth, is that this is going to be a huge hit here.
I have NEVER seen a society so obsessed with the consumption of a consumer product (smart phones) in my entire life.
Based on my, albeit, unscientific observations on the shanghai metro, I would say that the ratio to iPhones to all other smartphone brands is about 50/50.
Due to the fact that iPhones are bought at the unsubsidized price of about 800 US dollars (iphone 5), and the average salary in shanghai is about 900 USD a month, I would say a fair amount of people are coughing up a large amount of change to buy iPhones already.
However given an option thats more affordable to those making a Chinese salary, I think many people will jump for it ( this expat included )
Should be interesting to see how the release of the iPhone C is received by the market and shareholders!
I've been living in china for almost a year now.
And for the first time I am interested in an apple product release not for the upcoming product (not too exciting, just a repackaged iphone5
) but purely for the business implications.My two cents, for what its worth, is that this is going to be a huge hit here.
I have NEVER seen a society so obsessed with the consumption of a consumer product (smart phones) in my entire life.
Based on my, albeit, unscientific observations on the shanghai metro, I would say that the ratio to iPhones to all other smartphone brands is about 50/50.
Due to the fact that iPhones are bought at the unsubsidized price of about 800 US dollars (iphone 5), and the average salary in shanghai is about 900 USD a month, I would say a fair amount of people are coughing up a large amount of change to buy iPhones already.
However given an option thats more affordable to those making a Chinese salary, I think many people will jump for it ( this expat included
)Should be interesting to see how the release of the iPhone C is received by the market and shareholders!
I'm right with you. If they were to offer a 5c, 8GB model in the $300 range, I'd be all over it - even though I still have 1 year left on my 5 contract.
I'm wondering how this will work out still, I can imagine a lot of people starting to not like the iPhone because of the store costs. In China all the stores here seem to be free, not much software costs anything.
On iPhone you don't have many choices
On iPhone you don't have many choices
MacDailyNews called, they want their troll back.
This plastic phone will not change the worldwide commoditization of mobile hardware, leaving Apple's margins no where to hide.
And that would be THE worst thing EVER that could happen to the world wide cellular phone market. Thankfully it's all only a pipedream of yours and will never happen.
It's also great to see you appear to conclude the world consists of America, and... erm... China!
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I stated on here that the 5C would be for 'emerging markets' only as that is what the rumours have ALWAYS stated, and predictably I got shot down by the masses on here
We shall see though, I would consider a 5C partly because of the fact, with a plastic shell the reception will be much better.
As previously stated a huge monopoly is not a good thing for ANY company be it Samsung, Apple, Android etc.. so why is it a good thing that Android has dominance, so much hypocrisy.
Also if it were not to be released in other parts of the world except emerging markets, what's with all "This should brighten EVERYONE'S day" advert for the iPhone launch, I doubt they would state this if it was only for China or India
as of aug 7 2013 android has 52% us market share vs 39.9 and congrats to apple picking up .9% with t mobile getting the iphone 5,i mean they are Americas 4th largest carrier
They were at 39.0% I love how people like you take apple iphone sales compared to Samsung galaxy sales and think its all of androids eco system and to this very day android has 52% market share in the USA vs 39% of ios
http://wallstcheatsheet.com/stocks/...m-market-share-android-stalls.html/?a=viewall
good luck to apple in china trying to get those 700 million poor people to pay for a cell that is 4 months work pay
Apple Shipping Low-Cost iPhone to China Mobile
I simply do not understand why everyone is calling the iPhone 5C, the low cost iPhone. There are several pictures of multiple iPhones with different colors which would suggest that the iPhone refers to "Color". Secondly, offering a lower cost iPhone flies directly against Apple's core marketing strategy of being a premium phone manufacturer. Lastly, the iPhone 5C's suspected cost is allegedly between 400-500 dollars. When the original cost of an iPhone 5s is 600 dollars... this is hardly a discount... So my question stands, on what premise do people actually believe that this new phone will be called or truly considered a low cost alternative to a "full featured" iPhone?
I simply do not understand why everyone is calling the iPhone 5C, the low cost iPhone. There are several pictures of multiple iPhones with different colors which would suggest that the iPhone refers to "Color". Secondly, offering a lower cost iPhone flies directly against Apple's core marketing strategy of being a premium phone manufacturer. Lastly, the iPhone 5C's suspected cost is allegedly between 400-500 dollars. When the original cost of an iPhone 5s is 600 dollars... this is hardly a discount... So my question stands, on what premise do people actually believe that this new phone will be called or truly considered a low cost alternative to a "full featured" iPhone?
5 years ago they released the iPhone 3G. And 6 years ago the iPhone was 2 months old.
I still have my iPhone 1 and it still works. Bought it on day one.
But, they do have more than one model iPhone 5 to cover all countries/carriers: http://www.apple.com/iphone/LTE/
So, it might actually make sense for Apple to make a model exclusive to China, as, I've heard, they now have the largest smart phone market.
I've got a poll going about the 5C: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1632114/
Try $650-$800 or so. And it is agreed it stands for color. What'd you think it stood for? "c" for "cost?"
$400 is a 40% discount. What do you think is a good discount? I'd call that low cost.
Edit: oops- $650-$850.
Not fair to compare the top cost of the 5C with $50 less than the lowest cost 5. And for all we know the 5S will cost more.
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No. I think it's a great looking little phone. And a phone you wouldn't feel so fearful about, actually using it, with it's accidental bumps, drops and scratches. With the 5, although I love it, you always seem to be on guard about getting it blemished, precisely because it is such a beautifully crafted and executed piece of gear. This seems like a fun phone that's carefree.
Not only that, I'm expecting a fully featured phone, with most of the flagship's functionality, running iOS7, at a less expensive cost, due to slightly lower-priced internals and casing. If it comes in at least 16GB, Apple will sell my family at least two of them, haha.
iPhone 5S will likely be $650. If the 5C comes in at $450, that is (wait for it...) $200 less! If you don't think that a $200 price difference to somebody that makes $900/month is significant.. I'm sorry for your lack of world perspective.
If it has all the same features, I'd totally be happy with it. But for more features for a device I use SO much, I'm happy to pay $100 more for the advanced one.
Where I'll be bummed is if the 5c is $99 and $199 and the 5s starts at $299!
Gary
Sure buddy... Cellular phones have been around for over 20 years, the last 5 years have shown an explosion in the smartphone space... but we're only 5 years from the market disappearing entirely.
Wow, you should become a television psychic.
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I think you have VERY little to worry about. $199 is the sweet spot, the only phones I've seen coming in @ $299 are the Notes & the Razr Maxx HD.
Apple coming to China's largest carrier is likely good for Apple. However, Asian Countries are especially fond of large screen phones. One reason is many people only have a smart phone. That is all they can afford. They lack tablets and computers. As such, they prefer larger screens on their phones.
I see that as being an obstacle for Apple in China. That does not mean it will not increase its market share. It just means, I think the growth will be tempered by Android and Windows phones offering large screens, and Apple lacking such an option.
T-Mobile in the US certainly has helped Apple's market share in the US, but not significantly. Though it has been less than a year.
Yeah, the US event will occur at like 1 am Beijing time on the 11th, so organising a press event that morning is pretty reasonable, you can't expect the Chinese tech press to all stay up like all of us nerds for the event!
I like the phone actually except the colors are kind of too christmas for me. I dont know I was happy with black or white. But then I'm that kind of guy.
Heading to east asia to live there for a year.... wonder if you can root and unlock these phones with ease.
The Xiaomi 3 is quite an intriguer. Coming from a 920 user, needing a clone with android.
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I've been living in china for almost a year now.
And for the first time I am interested in an apple product release not for the upcoming product (not too exciting, just a repackaged iphone5
My two cents, for what its worth, is that this is going to be a huge hit here.
I have NEVER seen a society so obsessed with the consumption of a consumer product (smart phones) in my entire life.
Based on my, albeit, unscientific observations on the shanghai metro, I would say that the ratio to iPhones to all other smartphone brands is about 50/50.
Due to the fact that iPhones are bought at the unsubsidized price of about 800 US dollars (iphone 5), and the average salary in shanghai is about 900 USD a month, I would say a fair amount of people are coughing up a large amount of change to buy iPhones already.
However given an option thats more affordable to those making a Chinese salary, I think many people will jump for it ( this expat included
Should be interesting to see how the release of the iPhone C is received by the market and shareholders!
Another fallacy. Here's a tip. Where most mac rumor users live is not "typical country life". Sorry, don't live in Silicon valley. Its the freaking SF bubble when I visited, everyone has a completely different mindset then Midwest America. People spending 2000 a month on rent. What
That being said the typical american worker CAN afford an iphone on contract. Even the gangbangers carry them these days. I highly doubt migrant workers can afford an iphone.
Shanghai is NOT REAL china. Shanghai salaries are through the roof and their LoC. Shanghai is a 1st world city.
Go to the countryside and see how many people actually own an iphone. I bet you nilch. The iphone users in the 1st world cities won't get the cheap version since the iphone is an image product. What you can't afford the 5s and got the 5c, loss of face. Stupid i know
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Completely skewed stats due to the fact a huge majority of phones dont have Gplay access...
I'd wager its more like 90% / 10%.