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It sure will be: worse battery life, the rest is the same…
Hardly the same, the 13 Pro doesn't have a 48 pixel main camera, nor a lot of the other features, it's also quite a bit heavier, no always on display, no dynamic island to mention but a few.
Having said that, is there enough in the 15 Pro to upgrade? Not for me.
The 13 Pro looks more premium and has a better battery life.
For me the premium polished look has to return whilst retaining the lightness and the camera bump has to disappear before I upgrade
 
The new era is a dull non premium look, just like the standard iPhones 😡
With all due respect, are you using an iPhone because it looks premium or want people to see you have a ‘premium’ phone? Who cares. I buy iPhones for the OS, the tech inside the phone, how it works with my other Apple products. It looking premium or not is subjective and a seemingly shallow way to judge the iPhone.
 
Ha. Love the shameless grandioseness. "From the edge of the universe" lol
I’m not saying it’s not grandiose, but it would have been easy to take it even further:
Point out how the Apple engineers have worked tirelessly to develop special processes in order to harness the durability of a material that only exists because X and Y happened aeons ago when mankind didn’t even exist yet.

In fact, I can just about hear Jony Ive reciting a text about this in a pre-recorded video.
 
Fun fact, the ad was also actually filmed in space, using the iPhone 15 Pro Max, showcasing the 5x optical zoom

Seems like a marketing miss.
 
I’m not saying it’s not grandiose, but it would have been easy to take it even further:
Point out how the Apple engineers have worked tirelessly to develop special processes in order to harness the durability of a material that only exists because X and Y happened aeons ago when mankind didn’t even exist yet.

In fact, I can just about hear Jony Ive reciting a text about this in a pre-recorded video.
I do miss Jonys soothing voice explaining how they meticulously polish the bezels like he's narrating a porn clip.
 
For me the Titanium chassis has lost it's premium look, it looks as dull as the aluminium standard phones 😏
I like the lightness, very much dislike the dull look, regardless of how much the pro Apple techies try to tell us it's a fantastic look!
The biggest injustice I can see is Apple convincing people like yourself that 7000 series alloys are not 'premium'. In fact they are about as premium and innovative as you can get, not to mention environmentally positive.
 
Its obvious there is nothing new with this phone, if they make an ad for the frame material… which does not matter anway, because everone uses a case.

„From the edge of the universe“, this ad is soo ridiculous… It even makes no sense at all.

Marketing had some long nights with this one…
Not everyone. I use a pouch to hold my phone when not in use. When using it it’s as naked as a jay bird. So, I am looking forward to the lighter weight and curved edges that won’t dig into my palm like the current sharp edges do.
 
With all due respect, are you using an iPhone because it looks premium or want people to see you have a ‘premium’ phone? Who cares.

Reminds me of a snarky joke I heard the other day

How do you know if someone has an iPhone?

They’ll tell and show you.
 
I like the less weight but I feel like using a fairly rare metal for a phone that gets thrown away every other year is kind of wasteful.

Hopefully all the metal gets recycled.
Every other year? Maybe help save the planet and keep it a bit longer.
 
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I don't get it. Wouldn't "from the edge of the universe" be equally true for a steel frame? After all, iron comes after titanium in the periodic system - this would make more sense for elements heavier than iron. Sorry, Apple, but stupid advertising is kind of off-putting - some people dont want the idiot's phone.
 
Fun fact, the ad was also actually filmed in space, using the iPhone 15 Pro Max, showcasing the 5x optical zoom
I think it’s irresponsible that they hurled meteorites onto Earth to film that video.
 
I don't get it. Wouldn't "from the edge of the universe" be equally true for a steel frame?
It would be equally untrue. While both elements are formed in stars (like almost all elements except hydrogen), the atoms found on Earth will have originated in relatively nearby stars, not at the edge of the universe.
 
It's just the outer bands. Titanium being 16 times less heat-conductive than aluminum, that's probably a good thing.

I guess they had to mention it being bonded to aluminum - oh yes, recycled aluminum.


I’m guessing the stainless phones are all stainless steel? That would make the stainless steel phone technically stronger overall? If Apple had not mentioned the Titanium - Aluminum connection, you could make the argument this was just bait and switch.


Just how much difference is there now between the aluminum models and the aluminum models with a decorative Titanium border on them? Or why not just put Titanium borders on all the models? if you need heat dissipation by using aluminum and then bonding it to less heat dissipating Titanium that connects to the outside air - how does this make heat dissipation better - so what, let the screen take the excess heat?



I’ll stick with my 14PM for this year.
 
I’m guessing the stainless phones are all stainless steel?
Just the bands are steel, but those are fully steel, from the looks of the x-rays.

That would make the stainless steel phone technically stronger overall?
That could well be the case.

Or why not just put Titanium borders on all the models?
The motivation for abandoning stainless steel is to reduce weight, which was slowly getting out of hand, and would only have gotten worse with next year’s size increase for the iPhone Pros. But for the Pros they also want a “premium” material to differentiate them from the non-Pros. Hence titanium.

if you need heat dissipation by using aluminum and then bonding it to less heat dissipating Titanium that connects to the outside air - how does this make heat dissipation better - so what, let the screen take the excess heat?
Maybe it’s a wash due to the more efficient SoC.
 
I used to think that Titanium is really expensive, but in fact it costs just a few dollars per kilo. With one kilo you can produce a lot of iPhone frames though. So it is just a few Cents per iPhone. Not sure how much manufacturing costs, but Apple would not do it if it was really expensive.
It's not that it's expensive, but it's hard to work. Titanium chews through the hardest tooling like nobody's business.
 
Ad got ruined in the end with this

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I guess they had to mention it being bonded to aluminum - oh yes, recycled aluminum.


I’m guessing the stainless phones are all stainless steel? That would make the stainless steel phone technically stronger overall? If Apple had not mentioned the Titanium - Aluminum connection, you could make the argument this was just bait and switch.


Just how much difference is there now between the aluminum models and the aluminum models with a decorative Titanium border on them? Or why not just put Titanium borders on all the models? if you need heat dissipation by using aluminum and then bonding it to less heat dissipating Titanium that connects to the outside air - how does this make heat dissipation better - so what, let the screen take the excess heat?



I’ll stick with my 14PM for this year.

It doesn’t matter as the aluminium used in the 15 Pro is internal and makes no difference to users at all. Stronger stainless? Quite possibly if people plan on levering tyres with them. Aluminium is a very premium material, offers the best heat dissipation and is lighter than both stainless and titanium. This shouldn’t be an issue at all. 7000 Series alloy is also as expensive as the stainless Apple use so I doubt it’s saving any costs.
 
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