This is pretty darn clear in the rules for enterprise apps. Google and Facebook knew they were in severe violation of their agreement and chose to do it anyway because they are "large". As an app developer myself I'm glad to see Apple crack down on this. They make the rules and companies need to learn to play by the rules if they want to play in Apples playground.
If it's a test opt-in app not distributed through Apple App Store then what's the issue?
Hope they'll learn.
Very much this. These Enterprise Certificates have two purposes: One, so MegaCorp can write a MegaCorp-specific app for all MegaCorp employees to use as part of their business (without continually having to have Apple certify updates to the app as being fit for general public use - which they will never see). And, Two, so MegaCorp can widely internally test beta builds of either their MegaCorp-specifc app, or something they'll eventually submit to Apple for public distribution - where you want to hand the beta to many MegaCorp employees without them all being developers per se.This has nothing to do with data mining. This is about Facebook and Google letting consumers use apps on a platform that is designed for internal use only. I feel like the people writing these articles are doing a huge disservice by not explaining the issue correctly.
Google (search, YouTube, Gmail...) and Facebook (Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp) are the internet of modern age. If these 2 giants decide to screw Apple, they easily could. Just look at what happened to wp when MS started a fight with Google.and now Apple can rightfully punish them.
When their business is based around collecting data on users I don’t think they will.
I did/do both, I also (as an ex windows phone user) know what happens when you piss Google off.I think you either have not read the article or you don't know what you are talking about!
Very much this. These Enterprise Certificates have two purposes: One, so MegaCorp can write a MegaCorp-specific app for all MegaCorp employees to use as part of their business (without continually having to have Apple certify updates to the app as being fit for general public use - which they will never see). And, Two, so MegaCorp can widely internally test beta builds of either their MegaCorp-specifc app, or something they'll eventually submit to Apple for public distribution - where you want to hand the beta to many MegaCorp employees without them all being developers per se.
Facebook and Google were building apps with these Enterprise Certificates, and then handing them out to random non-company people, enticing them to use the app by paying them. Nothing even remotely like what Apple intended or allowed.
To data mining, though, the apps (both? or just one) were VPN apps - which means every single byte of network traffic to and from said random person's phone, would flow through Facebook or Google's company headquarters. Want to do super creepy data mining on someone? Figure out a way to get access to every single byte of their network traffic. They were really atrociously violating the terms under which those certs were issued.
When their business is based around collecting data on users I don’t think they will.
who cares about apples terms?
it was consensual between megacrab and not even customer but paid tester!
this whole story is just an apple fog action to push news away from a REAL facetime (maybe NSA) feature set - from her majesty privacy company itself !!!
I did/do both, I also (as an ex windows phone user) know what happens when you piss Google off.
Something tells me they won't be paying them for much longer. Few more years until they wipe Bing entirely and Apple losses a few more % of market share.Yep, it is quite obvious what happens when you piss off Google. It goes back to it's drawing board (like it already did) and resolve the issue. It is Google who is paying billions to Apple and not the other way around. So it is quite clear who needs more who.
Google (search, YouTube, Gmail...) and Facebook (Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp) are the internet of modern age. If these 2 giants decide to screw Apple, they easily could. Just look at what happened to wp when MS started a fight with Google.
This ain't gonna end well for Apple.
Soon there'll be no reason to own a smart-phone but hey! At least it'll be private and secure...This ain't gonna end well for Apple.
Something tells me they won't be paying them for much longer. Few more years until they wipe Bing entirely and Apple losses a few more % of market share.
Google are going to pay Apple $12 billion to be the default search in Safari this year; hardley the act of a company looking to "screw Apple over"There is no way for google and facebook to screw Apple over without hurting their own finances in the process. This is precisely why Apple works so hard to secure their own platform, and I have never been prouder to be an apple customer.
DuckDuckGo was founded in 2008; hardly a "new boy"Something tells me you are wrong!! Not that they won't wipe Bing entirely but THE new boy in town duckduckgo is getting more attention and it is everything Googles search engine is not (privacy oriented) so yeah, I would not hold my breath if I was you.
Google are going to pay Apple $12 billion to be the default search in Safari this year; hardley the act of a company looking to "screw Apple over"
https://9to5mac.com/2018/09/28/google-paying-apple-9-billion-default-seach-engine/
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DuckDuckGo was founded in 2008; hardly a "new boy"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DuckDuckGo
Lol - they just pulled a Qualcomm on google and Facebook. If you yourself are bullied, it’s only logical from the perspective of 3-year-old to bully someone else for satisfaction.
What a joke - I hope they know that Google doesn’t let itself be bullied. That’s going to backfire dramatically and will hurt Google (and Facebook) services on Android.
Honestly, if I were google, I’d immediately have pulled the plug on google search on all iOS devices. I’m sure Bing would serve the fanbois just fine.
Perhaps read this:Google maps.
#neverforget
Perhaps read this:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/...ces-and-that-was-the-wrong-move/#52e96e8b63a9
It was Google that wasn't willing to bend to Apple that resulted in Apple having to do their own map service.