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So a phone that has the screen on 8hrs a day minimum constantly is the same as one that turned on and off periodically. Mmm. Talk about chalk and cheese.... 2 completely different useage scenarios...

Care to explain why LCD does not have screen burns to that extend?


If you held a hairdryer on your skin for 8 hrs solid, would that be the same effect than if you turned it on a for a few seconds at a time then turned it away!

Stop talking nonsense! A phone display is not like a hairdryer you only use for a minute, don't be so dump! Phone displays are meant to literally be ON for long long periods. There is nothing that suggest that the screen should be turned OFF after a certain period because it will harm you or itself.
 
Stop talking nonsense! A phone display is not like a hairdryer you only use for a minute, don't be so dump! Phone displays are meant to literally be ON for long long periods. There is nothing that suggest that the screen should be turned OFF after a certain period because it will harm you or itself.

Phone displays aren't meant to be always on for 12-14 hrs at a time...and no normal person would have their phone screen on that long either.
 
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No its not, I've a 18 month old oled galaxy device, the screen is perfect. No over saturation, no burn in, no dead pixels. Just as it came out the box...
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So a phone that has the screen on 8hrs a day minimum constantly is the same as one that turned on and off periodically. Mmm. Talk about chalk and cheese.... 2 completely different useage scenarios...
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If you held a hairdryer on your skin for 8 hrs solid, would that be the same effect than if you turned it on a for a few seconds at a time then turned it away!!! The skin is always prone to burning, but only with constant exposure. Your pathetic propaganda agenda is getting tiresome. These displays are the best in the world. Nit pick all you want, doesn't change a thing.
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So a lg tv that could be on for 15 hrs solid is comparable to a Samsung phone that is on for potentially minutes at a time.. once again.. these petty arguments are stale. Apple has decided that the best screen maker in the world is making their screens next. If they can deal with it, why can't you?
This is not about dealing with it, this is about burn in associated with oled.
 
I have owned and continue to own and use a fair number of products from both Samsung and Apple. Tablets and phones, both. Current and dated. I am also quite OCD and technically adept when it comes to displays.

The good...
OLED works well when temperatures are managed, brightness is limited, and run-time is limited. And it is capable, when used appropriately, to greatly reduce power consumption. Thus, as an example, the Apple watch was a perfect use case. Rarely full-screen images, low run time, thermally coupled to your skin. Ideal use of the tech. In contrast to the LCD-based Moto 360, it was a land-slide win for the Apple's screen and its battery life.

The bad...
Phones are another story. While many will not, many people run their phones in hot conditions, store them in enclosed places, run the brightness on the high side, and/or run the screen hours each day. This means many people will experience screen burn on these new Apple phones. Some subtle, some drastic. You can mostly mitigate this as a careful user, but that is definitely a step backwards. Additionally, Apple usually specs their displays to target the sRGB color space with great accuracy. For better or for worse, this is the default color space that web content targets. I have used and seen only one Samsung product with a decently faithful sRGB spectrum - the Galaxy Tab S 10.5" set in "basic" mode. This gives me great concern about the overall experience. I don't care that my Apple watch has inaccurate web/content colors, but I do care on my phone.

The impact...
The main thing, IMO, is I still regularly see OLEDs on top-tier phones only months old with aggressive burn, but I have several 3+ year old tablets with healthy OLED, burn-free panels. If Apple is to avoid the issues with OLED, they will need to work very close with Samsung, and also aggressively manage the displays. Including limiting peak brightness available to users, dimming if/when the phone is too warm, overhauling UI for OLED-friendlyness, etc.. Even if they are successful, the overall experience will be greatly impacted. Only die-hard fans of OLED's indoors screen contrast and their particular color curve should be happy. Everyone else should stick to the LCD models. Personally, I'm happy with OLED in the watches, content but not thrilled in the tablet realm, and quite annoyed in the phone space. Use the right tech in the right places. Some people put heavy duty batteries in high-drain devices "because they're cheaper", others put alkaline batteries in remote controls that sit unused most of the time "because Duracells are the best", but both of these groups are delusional. You don't use a hammer to put air in your car's tires. OLED does have strengths, LED does have strengths. Use them where appropriate and we all win.

Greg
You've been a member for a year and a half and still have newbie status. Come out into the light-- these forums could use more rational and detailed posts like this.

I'm not convinced that OLED is going to be worse than LED on the new iPhone because I expect Apple has reason to believe they can maintain the quality, but I agree with your long list of trade offs. Use the right tech for the right purpose and don't fetishize an acronym.
 
Care to explain why LCD does not have screen burns to that extend?




Stop talking nonsense! A phone display is not like a hairdryer you only use for a minute, don't be so dump! Phone displays are meant to literally be ON for long long periods. There is nothing that suggest that the screen should be turned OFF after a certain period because it will harm you or itself.
The hate is strong in this one....
 
Phone displays aren't meant to be always on for 12-14 hrs at a time...and no normal person would have their phone screen on that long either.

So I am not allowed to use a bed side clock app at night when I am at sleep and phone is changing? Someone tell Apple to remove that dangerous app (and countless others) from Appstore imideately.
 
Care to explain why LCD does not have screen burns to that extend?

It does.

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You mised the part "to that extend"
Even though there are occasional reports of LCDs getting screen burns, it's nothing campare to OLED's.

All display technologies can suffer from burn-in. Including CRTs.

As technologies mature, they have developed ways of mitigating or reducing the burn in.

OLED being relatively new compared to LCD and CRT has had much shorter time so far to have had some of that worked out, however in the last 2-3 years, OLED technologyhas really caught up with LCD for burn in. Though, still not as good.

The average user for either LCD or OLED is not going to experience burn in during day to day operation. unless of course they have brightness at 100% for hours on end on a static image.
 
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Again, you are missing the point. I am not bashing Samsung, actually I love their latest Galaxy phones and TV's, all I am saying that as beautiful as OLED's are, they have a burning issue that is more associated with them, then LCD's. If that can be resolved, it is a perfect display. Once people buy a product, you can't lecture them on how long to keep the screen on and how to use it. The possibilities of use should be endless. The display is everything on smartphones now days and it needs to be as issue free as possible. Regardless of all this, I would definitely still buy it.

Fingers crossed we get OLED in iPhone 8, my advice for anyone is, do not leave the screen on all the time, use it like you use your iPhone 7 and you will not get burn in .

My best TVs by far have been plasma, notorious for burn in, to this day my pioneer and Panasonic are burn in free. If I wanted to, I could get burn in on them , but with a little common sense. 10 years on my pioneer is still kicking ass against most sets produced today .

FYI I basing my opinions on owning a S7 edge batman edition to this day the screen is perfect. Heck, if I life a static image on it for a few days.....I could only blame myself. Though given watching static images for prelonged periods of time on a mobile phone is not realistic, just like plasma TVs, I don't see an issue.

Anyway , have a good night
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All display technologies can suffer from burn-in. Including CRTs.

As technologies mature, they have developed ways of mitigating or reducing the burn in.

OLED being relatively new compared to LCD and CRT has had much shorter time so far to have had some of that worked out, however in the last 2-3 years, OLED technologyhas really caught up with LCD for burn in. Though, still not as good.

The average user for either LCD or OLED is not going to experience burn in during day to day operation. unless of course they have brightness at 100% for hours on end on a static image.

Spot on . If some reason you leave the device on all day with a static image, don't be shocked with burn in. My question would be why????? Unless it's a demo unit that gets little use and sits there with static images....though these are not realistic usage patterns.
 
No its not, I've a 18 month old oled galaxy device, the screen is perfect. No over saturation, no burn in, no dead pixels. Just as it came out the box...

So just like the other guy, you have one example. I have quite literally thousands of cases I've seen.

OLED suffers from burn in. You're on the Internet, Google it.
 
So just like the other guy, you have one example. I have quite literally thousands of cases I've seen.

OLED suffers from burn in. You're on the Internet, Google it.

So just like my anecdotal evidence, you are refuting it, and replacing it with your anecdotal evidence, but claiming yours is FACT!! ,

You sir are awesome, and win an award of the day. I just can't quite decide which one you deserve.
 
So just like my anecdotal evidence, you are refuting it, and replacing it with your anecdotal evidence, but claiming yours is FACT!! ,

You sir are awesome, and win an award of the day. I just can't quite decide which one you deserve.

Your evidence is anecdotal.

Mine evidence is tangible, provable and is obtained from multiple sources. Sorry mate.
 
never heard of plasma displays ? Mine is going great...I'm no stupid enough to leave it running for extended period of time still...... common sense.

On plasma TVs I can understand people being upset about burn in issues.
For many people a TV is something running every day for multiple hours at a time with fixed content like channel logos.

How many people are regularly using their smartphones multiple hours in a row with fixed elements on the display?
Usually your display turns off or changes the portrayed content quite often.
 
I'm one of the biggest fanboys when it comes to Samsung hardware. But software and updating policies they can go to hell. No one asked for that Bixby crap and just to cram it down everyone's throats they added a stupid Bixby button on a sexy phone. Android already has a digital assistant and here goes Samsung duplicating crap. And don't get me started on how long it takes for their flagship phones to get a major Android release.
I was getting so many updates on my iPhone 7 Plus I had to go from beta to official lol.

up untill a few weeks ago Google now was only able to run on the Nexus and Google pixel phones.what else do you 2ant Samsung Todo when Google was keeping it in house.

the gs7 on 6.0 still has not got the update to get the latest Google now working yet and the gs7 just got it on 7.0
 
So now your anecdotal evidence is tangible and can be proved. You are such a sweetheart!! , go on then, prove to us about all your lovely evidence being more than just hearsay. .

I'll post some evidence for you tomorrow, sweetheart.
 
On plasma TVs I can understand people being upset about burn in issues.
For many people a TV is something running every day for multiple hours at a time with fixed content like channel logos.

How many people are regularly using their smartphones multiple hours in a row with fixed elements on the display?
Usually your display turns off or changes the portrayed content quite often.

That is my point exactly, the only place you might find that is a demo unit in a store , left on over night . No realistic scenario is going to see a mobile phone left on all the time, hence demo models are a very poor indicator of screen Burn in
 
Your evidence is anecdotal.

Mine evidence is tangible, provable and is obtained from multiple sources. Sorry mate.

Okay and so what if it has burn in? LCD has yellow tint and all my devices except one have it. There is no such thing as a perfect technology
 
Burn-in hasn't been addressed fully with oled technology, "yellow" screen is not endemic to LCD. And not even my iphone 4 has it.
Just like yellow tint on LCD hasn't been addressed as many people have it.And by yellow tint I mean the screen whites are uneven which is irritating especially considering how white ios is.

Okay and my Galaxy S6 and Tab S2 don't have burn in
 
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Just like yellow tint on LCD hasn't been addressed as many people have it.And by yellow tint I mean the screen whites are uneven which is irritating especially considering how white ios is.

Okay and my Galaxy S6 and Tab S2 don't have burn in
You're lucky then and maybe you don't use your other devices. But then again, as you have been posting you have had more unlucky issues with your idevices, along with performance issues, stuttering and lag, yellow screen comes along for the ride. But I have no doubt you will be first on line for the new high end iphone. o_O
 
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This year is the last chance for this fkg company to get my $. If this dongle company cannot show a design that better than my 2010 iPhone 4. Bye bye, I will get my Nokia 3310 in the garage lol
 
You're lucky then and maybe you don't use your other devices. But then again, as you have been posting you have had more unlucky issues with your idevices, along with performance issues, stuttering and lag, yellow screen comes along for the ride. But I have no doubt you will be first on line for the new high end iphone. o_O

Of,course I am getting that OLED iPhone if it's in my price range otherwise it's off to the S8. Wireless charging,OLED, glass design, no bezels. Apple just created an iPhone with every feature I wanted. The 7 Plus was just a filler model for me because my iPhone 6 got trashed by Apple
 
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