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Samsung never sells its latest amoled screen technology to other vendors......and since Apple is all about profit.... I'm sure they purchased a older generation of amoled curved technology but will present it to fanboys as something brand new and innovative with true tone.
What a load of hyperbole. Nobody could possibly know the alleged part number in this rumored story.
 
What a load of hyperbole. Nobody could possibly know the alleged part number in this rumored story.

It has been proven time and time again that when Samsung supplies amoled screens...they never give the other company the greatest. It does not matter if I don't have a part number. This happens every year with other phone vendors too. Most likely Apple may have purchased the curved screen technology that was in the s6 edge which would be far cheaper and increase overall profits. Apple also has not had a quadHD screen ever and they can just use the s6 edge screen technology and make the fanboys glow with amazement that they finally have quadHD and a amoled curved screen instead of the 1080p LCD screen the fanboys are accustomed to.
 
They do have the opportunity to order custom changes to specs within Samsung's ability. Hopefully theyre going to pay for the best that can be produced (within reason).
Oh ok, i just wondered if Apple has the ability to tweak the displays themselves, they usually have great displays on their devices (the iPhone, iPad and iMac all have great displays) and i wondered whether that is down to something Apple does or if it's just where they get the displays from.

I have owned and continue to own and use a fair number of products from both Samsung and Apple. Tablets and phones, both. Current and dated. I am also quite OCD and technically adept when it comes to displays.

The good...
OLED works well when temperatures are managed, brightness is limited, and run-time is limited. And it is capable, when used appropriately, to greatly reduce power consumption. Thus, as an example, the Apple watch was a perfect use case. Rarely full-screen images, low run time, thermally coupled to your skin. Ideal use of the tech. In contrast to the LCD-based Moto 360, it was a land-slide win for the Apple's screen and its battery life.

The bad...
Phones are another story. While many will not, many people run their phones in hot conditions, store them in enclosed places, run the brightness on the high side, and/or run the screen hours each day. This means many people will experience screen burn on these new Apple phones. Some subtle, some drastic. You can mostly mitigate this as a careful user, but that is definitely a step backwards. Additionally, Apple usually specs their displays to target the sRGB color space with great accuracy. For better or for worse, this is the default color space that web content targets. I have used and seen only one Samsung product with a decently faithful sRGB spectrum - the Galaxy Tab S 10.5" set in "basic" mode. This gives me great concern about the overall experience. I don't care that my Apple watch has inaccurate web/content colors, but I do care on my phone.

The impact...
The main thing, IMO, is I still regularly see OLEDs on top-tier phones only months old with aggressive burn, but I have several 3+ year old tablets with healthy OLED, burn-free panels. If Apple is to avoid the issues with OLED, they will need to work very close with Samsung, and also aggressively manage the displays. Including limiting peak brightness available to users, dimming if/when the phone is too warm, overhauling UI for OLED-friendlyness, etc.. Even if they are successful, the overall experience will be greatly impacted. Only die-hard fans of OLED's indoors screen contrast and their particular color curve should be happy. Everyone else should stick to the LCD models. Personally, I'm happy with OLED in the watches, content but not thrilled in the tablet realm, and quite annoyed in the phone space. Use the right tech in the right places. Some people put heavy duty batteries in high-drain devices "because they're cheaper", others put alkaline batteries in remote controls that sit unused most of the time "because Duracells are the best", but both of these groups are delusional. You don't use a hammer to put air in your car's tires. OLED does have strengths, LED does have strengths. Use them where appropriate and we all win.

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If its a curved screen like the one on the Galaxy S8 then you can keep it. Don't want a curved screen that wastes space, distorts pictures and makes it hard to do anything at the corners on! WTF already, stop with all these pointless curved screens!!!
Sounds like you have actually never had you hands on a curved screen. I'm not a huge fan but certainly not as bad as you are making them out to be.
 
Oh ok, i just wondered if Apple has the ability to tweak the displays themselves, they usually have great displays on their devices (the iPhone, iPad and iMac all have great displays) and i wondered whether that is down to something Apple does or if it's just where they get the displays from.

There will have been negotiations, and Samsung will have said something like "We can sell this cheap and nasty display for $X, there is this one in reasonable quality for $Y, we can sell you the same that we use in the S8 for $Z, we can add improvement A for $A, improvement B for $B, and improvement C for $C. But if you want 92 million, then we can only do this, this and that in those numbers. You choose". That's the starting point, then Apple will ask for something better at a lower price, and in the end they agree to something.

So Apple won't do any tweaking themselves, but they surely will ask Samsung to do some tweaking for them.

But let's say some displays when manufactured come with uneven colours, and some don't. Then Samsung will offer "you can take all the displays as they come for $X, or you take only the better ones for $Y, and we'll sell the rest to some company that is willing to pay $Z even if the colours are not that even". A lot of "quality" is just testing and rejecting those that are low quality.

92 million ordered. 100,000 available at launch.

100,000 available at lunch. There's plenty of time until launch.
 
There will have been negotiations, and Samsung will have said something like "We can sell this cheap and nasty display for $X, there is this one in reasonable quality for $Y, we can sell you the same that we use in the S8 for $Z, we can add improvement A for $A, improvement B for $B, and improvement C for $C. But if you want 92 million, then we can only do this, this and that in those numbers. You choose". That's the starting point, then Apple will ask for something better at a lower price, and in the end they agree to something.

So Apple won't do any tweaking themselves, but they surely will ask Samsung to do some tweaking for them.

But let's say some displays when manufactured come with uneven colours, and some don't. Then Samsung will offer "you can take all the displays as they come for $X, or you take only the better ones for $Y, and we'll sell the rest to some company that is willing to pay $Z even if the colours are not that even". A lot of "quality" is just testing and rejecting those that are low quality.

Ok, I just wondered because Apple's displays tend to be really good I've never had a problem with any of mine on my iPhones, Mac's or iPads over the years, obviously they will want that to continue so I just wondered why they chose OLED this year instead of previous years.
 
And what I am saying that regardless of how it is used, the display is still prone to burns. How you use the phone is totally irrelevant and I don't think there is any right or wrong way. Some people could use the phone as a side bed clock when sleeping. I am not saying it will happen but the issue with burning doesn't seem to have been resolved, at least not till last year.

You can use a screwdriver as a hammer.... a phone display is not designed to be always stay on. Burn in on displays has been around for a very long time , and people who left thier displays on twenty four hours a day , have no right to complain about burn in... please this is not an OLED issue .... never heard of plasma displays ? Mine is going great...I'm no stupid enough to leave it running for extended period of time still...... common sense.

How you use you phone is very relevant, it's designed to be used as a phone, if you bought one to use as a side bed clock , don't complain that you are experiencing issues, it's not what it was designed for.

Nothing wrong with OLED, as soon as apple uses it in the next iPhone you will be telling how great it is.
 
You can use a screwdriver as a hammer.... a phone display is not designed to be always stay on.

It is more then just a phone. It is a pocked computer and there are millions of apps designed to be used on all different ways, some of them designed to be ON for quite a long time. In an ideal world there should be absolutely no limit as to how you use your phones display. You kind of remind me SJ with "you are holding it wrong" Screen burn is an OLED issue mainly but not exclusively and it extends far more then you think. Trying to pretend that it does not exist does not help.
 
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I've explained my point of view quite clearly. I've also shared my actual experiences. If you choose to disagree then that's fine. Have a good day :)
Nothing wrong with explaining your point of view based on your anecdotal experience. Have a good day also.:)
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It has been proven time and time again that when Samsung supplies amoled screens...they never give the other company the greatest. It does not matter if I don't have a part number. This happens every year with other phone vendors too. Most likely Apple may have purchased the curved screen technology that was in the s6 edge which would be far cheaper and increase overall profits. Apple also has not had a quadHD screen ever and they can just use the s6 edge screen technology and make the fanboys glow with amazement that they finally have quadHD and a amoled curved screen instead of the 1080p LCD screen the fanboys are accustomed to.
Name calling and sweeping generalizations do not an argument make.

Other than that there is nothing to substantiate your point of view.(which is expected because it's a rumored story)
 
It is more then just a phone. It is a pocked computer and there are millions of apps designed to be used on all different ways, some of them designed to be ON for quite a long time. In an ideal world there should be absolutely no limit as to how you use your phones display. You kind of remind me SJ with "you are holding it wrong" Screen burn is an OLED issue mainly but not exclusively and it extends far more then you think. Trying to pretend that it does not exist does not help.

I'm saying burn in has been an issue for decades. If u look after your gear, you mitigate it.

It's a mobile phone......that is it's critical function.

Look , once apple goes OLED u will be praising them big time. Enjoy ur Samsung bashing
 
I'm saying burn in has been an issue for decades. If u look after your gear, you mitigate it.

It's a mobile phone......that is it's critical function.

Look , once apple goes OLED u will be praising them big time. Enjoy ur Samsung bashing

Again, you are missing the point. I am not bashing Samsung, actually I love their latest Galaxy phones and TV's, all I am saying that as beautiful as OLED's are, they have a burning issue that is more associated with them, then LCD's. If that can be resolved, it is a perfect display. Once people buy a product, you can't lecture them on how long to keep the screen on and how to use it. The possibilities of use should be endless. The display is everything on smartphones now days and it needs to be as issue free as possible. Regardless of all this, I would definitely still buy it.
 
Nothing wrong with explaining your point of view based on your anecdotal experience. Have a good day also.:)
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Name calling and sweeping generalizations do not an argument make.

Other than that there is nothing to substantiate your point of view.(which is expected because it's a rumored story)
Not anecdotal but a fact. Samsung's OLEDs are used all over the Android ecosystem and not a single one measures up to the quality of the displays they use on their own phones. And in fact even the Google Pixel display (which is a Samsung panel) isn't anywhere close to the S7 Edge display(proven by Anandtech). So if Apple does this they will have set a precedent with Samsung. But I doubt it because just as how CPUs are Apple's forte in smartphones, when it comes to displays its Samsung and they are unlikely to sell their secret sauce to their competition
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Samsung never sells its latest amoled screen technology to other vendors......and since Apple is all about profit.... I'm sure they purchased a older generation of amoled curved technology but will present it to fanboys as something brand new and innovative with true tone.
Would be funny if its the same quality panel as on the S6 Edge. I have been enjoying the iPhone 8 display for years then
 
Not anecdotal but a fact. Samsung's OLEDs are used all over the Android ecosystem and not a single one measures up to the quality of the displays they use on their own phones. And in fact even the Google Pixel display (which is a Samsung panel) isn't anywhere close to the S7 Edge display(proven by Anandtech). So if Apple does this they will have set a precedent with Samsung. But I doubt it because just as how CPUs are Apple's forte in smartphones, when it comes to displays its Samsung and they are unlikely to sell their secret sauce to their competition
Prove it.
Would be funny if its the same quality panel as on the S6 Edge. I have been enjoying the iPhone 8 display for years then
It could be anything, given it's a rumor.
 
Prove it.

It could be anything, given it's a rumor.
Its already all over the Internet. Try finding a phone with the S7 Edge panel. Read the display analysis of any phone which uses a Samsung panel. No smartphone on Android has the same panel as that of the S7. Even Google failed to get that same display
 
Its already all over the Internet. Try finding a phone with the S7 Edge panel. Read the display analysis of any phone which uses a Samsung panel. No smartphone on Android has the same panel as that of the S7. Even Google failed to get that same display
The internet(or google hits for that matter) isnt proof of anything. You can't prove your statement, which means it's hyperbole.
 
The internet(or google hits for that matter) isnt proof of anything. You can't prove your statement, which means it's hyperbole.

Not google hits. Detailed analysis by display experts have shown the S7 panel is not being used on any Android phone. Read Anandtech's review of the Pixel. It's using a Samsung panel but the reviewer states it's not close to the panel of the S7 as proven scientifically
 
Not google hits. Detailed analysis by display experts have shown the S7 panel is not being used on any Android phone. Read Anandtech's review of the Pixel. It's using a Samsung panel but the reviewer states it's not close to the panel of the S7 as proven scientifically
There is no proof of the part number of what allegedly Samsung is supplying Apple for the alleged rumored iPhone 8.
 
It's a rumour thread posted on a rumour site which mentions they will be the sole supplier.

Other rumours posted here have also confidently predicted Samsung will be the only supplier of OLED panels.

Using logic with djcerla is a fruitless exercise.
 
It has been proven time and time again that when Samsung supplies amoled screens...they never give the other company the greatest. It does not matter if I don't have a part number. This happens every year with other phone vendors too. Most likely Apple may have purchased the curved screen technology that was in the s6 edge which would be far cheaper and increase overall profits. Apple also has not had a quadHD screen ever and they can just use the s6 edge screen technology and make the fanboys glow with amazement that they finally have quadHD and a amoled curved screen instead of the 1080p LCD screen the fanboys are accustomed to.

Correct. Even the biggest tech company on earth, Google, gets a 2nd tier SAMOLED display from Samsung for its Pixel phone. Samsung keeps the best for its own products much like countries selling export (gimped) version of defense products to others.
 
You can use a screwdriver as a hammer.... a phone display is not designed to be always stay on. Burn in on displays has been around for a very long time , and people who left thier displays on twenty four hours a day , have no right to complain about burn in... please this is not an OLED issue .... never heard of plasma displays ? Mine is going great...I'm no stupid enough to leave it running for extended period of time still...... common sense.

How you use you phone is very relevant, it's designed to be used as a phone, if you bought one to use as a side bed clock , don't complain that you are experiencing issues, it's not what it was designed for.

Nothing wrong with OLED, as soon as apple uses it in the next iPhone you will be telling how great it is.
As much as LCD is good enough on my 7 plus I badly want OLED..one think i do miss from going from a my S7 edge
 
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Screen burn still concerns me. I work with 2nd hand phones and OLED screen burn is a huge issue, still.
No its not, I've a 18 month old oled galaxy device, the screen is perfect. No over saturation, no burn in, no dead pixels. Just as it came out the box...
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I have seen a Galaxy 7 edge in the Carphone warehouse (demo) full of ghostly burns on it. So it kind of still is, unless it have vastly improved from last year.
So a phone that has the screen on 8hrs a day minimum constantly is the same as one that turned on and off periodically. Mmm. Talk about chalk and cheese.... 2 completely different useage scenarios...
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And what I am saying that regardless of how it is used, the display is still prone to burns. How you use the phone is totally irrelevant and I don't think there is any right or wrong way. Some people could use the phone as a side bed clock when sleeping. I am not saying it will happen but the issue with burning doesn't seem to have been resolved, at least not till last year.
If you held a hairdryer on your skin for 8 hrs solid, would that be the same effect than if you turned it on a for a few seconds at a time then turned it away!!! The skin is always prone to burning, but only with constant exposure. Your pathetic propaganda agenda is getting tiresome. These displays are the best in the world. Nit pick all you want, doesn't change a thing.
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Seems that oled is subject to burn in.
In addition there is article by pcworld about people returning their lg tv due to burn in. I can dig it up if you want to see it.
So a lg tv that could be on for 15 hrs solid is comparable to a Samsung phone that is on for potentially minutes at a time.. once again.. these petty arguments are stale. Apple has decided that the best screen maker in the world is making their screens next. If they can deal with it, why can't you?
 
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