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Apple Silicon M1 MacBook Pro Earns 7508 Multi-Core Score in Cinebench Benchmark
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But it isn't "fair" really. There are different styles of laptops. Ultrabook is an intel certification, but the "class" of notebooks that are ultra portable use very specific TDPs and very specific CPUs. Doesn't matter if one company makes the case of solid gold and sells it for a million dollars, its not designed to be compared to a high end gaming rig from a different brand.
He keeps arguing over and over that he doesn't care about TDP, which defines use case and product class the CPU goes into, and that he's only allowing the comparison to be made at the retail price of the system.
Don't like the constraints designed into a system because of what product niche the company designed their product for, then don't buy it. But don't hold it to a standard that isn't applicable.
You know my M1 MacBook Air also won't compete with a 40 core Xeon server. Its not meant to!
In fact, until lately, most games couldn't even take advantage of multiple CPU cores. Many still aren't great at it, which is why Intel focussed so much on single core scores on their gaming CPUs
He was probably meaning it is 25% slower than the quoted CPU with a score of 10,000. Easy mistake when read fast.
10,000 is 33% faster than 7,500
7,500 is 25% slower than 10,000 however.
Truly I relish the thought. If this is the low-end, gotta wonder what the mid-range is. :O
The "fair" comment was meant to refer only to the fact that apple will be compared to intel and AMD, not the fact that they are comparing to similarly priced devices; hence, my clarification that we should compare like for like if we're feeling the need to compare.
I need to Google whether or not there is a Geekbench browser style listing for Cinebench that is outside the application itself. If not, it would be helpful for all involved.
It’s hard to get excited about anything Intel has to offer at this point as Tiger Lake is just too little, too late.
Once again, WOW. I did not expect this. I'll be very interested to see how these hold up to thermal load doing something like a handbrake conversion. If they can actually sustain this, rather than throttling down drastically like the intel based MacBooks always did, this really might end up being a game-changer that turns the entire laptop industry on its head.
Cinebench R23: CPU-Ergebnisse mit AMD und Intel
Maxon hat Cinebench R23 veröffentlicht. Wie schnell welcher Prozessor im CPU-Benchmark ist, kann die Community im Schwarm ermitteln.
That is a valid statement. Now that the benchmark shows that the first and lowest AS can compete with top dog AMD and Intel, we can say we have parity. That parity won't last. Sure AMD is going 5 nm and Intel will do something (not sure what that something is); however, Apple hasn't released their "fast chip" yet, but will likely release them early next year.
What should send fear and trepidation is that in 2021, Apple will sell more Apple Silicon devices (A and M chips) than Intel and AMD combined will sell x86 devices worldwide. Apple has started from A4 to A14 in 10 years. With chips being improved annually, and with economy of scale selling over 250+ million devices, the tide has turned very swiftly.
Folks this is the LOW END processor. It's been introduced in the Air, Mini and low end 8th Gen MacBook Pro replacement. They are still selling the 10th Gen Intel.
This is NOT the mid range or high end mobile M1 chip.
In addition the desktop class D1 Apple Silicon will be in a class by itself, both in terms of CPU but GPU as well.
This is NOT the mid range or high end mobile M1 chip.
In addition the desktop class D1 Apple Silicon will be in a class by itself, both in terms of CPU but GPU as well.
TDP is completely irrelevant in geekbench though. The whole test is designed not to termal-throttle, so an iPad cpu with 7W TDP can beat a workstation with 150W TDP (single core). On top of that, the single core performance of mobile ryzen is expected to greatly improve with zen3 (just like it did on desktop), and that's still 7nm, compared to apple 5.
Compared to Intel, M1 is truly impressive. I just ran R23 on my 1068NG7 and got 4231 multi core (at almost 30W TDP). If Intel was the only player in town, this would be well worth the hassle of migrating to different instruction set (for people like me, very significant). But it's not. Right now, for the workload that matters for me (sustained multicore performance), it seems to be at best on par with AMD. I really hope that changes with M1X.
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I ran R23 on my MBP with a core i7-3720QM, so that’s 9 generations.
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What is striking is how poorly Intel has progressed with multicore performance in 9 years. Their laptop chips have really stagnated. The single core performance of their 11th gen low power chips has more than doubled, but to keep heat down in multicores, the i7s are throttled down.
This is where the AS will shine. Because it seems to run cooler for much longer.
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What is striking is how poorly Intel has progressed with multicore performance in 9 years. Their laptop chips have really stagnated. The single core performance of their 11th gen low power chips has more than doubled, but to keep heat down in multicores, the i7s are throttled down.
This is where the AS will shine. Because it seems to run cooler for much longer.
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I think I’m most interested in how this transition changes the availability of quality software on the iPad. Sure, the iPad software catalogue is now available on Mac but that is less interesting for me. I’m interested to see how Mac software becomes available on the iPad with just a click of a switch in Xcode. Being able to target a few hundred million devices, with potentially the option to buy once, use anywhere is very appealing.
Yeah, exactly, battery life matters for separate reasons. I'm asking for max load TDP cause it'll tell me how much thermal "room" these AS chips have to scale.
For a mac it's pretty good. This basically is 2 times as fast as the intel MacBook, will probably be quieter and
have a much longer lasting battery. It also runs iPhone apps. So for us Mac users its great.
We're on the road to having performance closer to what windows users get,
without the hassle of windows. Going to get a MacBook air. Happy days!
The reason for that is the M1 is only 4 high performance cores compared to 8 or higher for the equivalent AMD chip. The fact the M1 is able to keep on par with half the performance cores shows just how good these Apples chips are. Like i said next year when Apple release the higher tier version of the M1 you can start to make better Apple to Apple comparisons, parden the pun lol.
Can you tell us how it’s going on M1? Trade-in of 16” 2.3 i9 32gb 1tb 5600m 4gb shows $1430 from Apple. I’m also curious about going this M1 route. I can’t stand the fans always running.
It is kind of magical, it doubles the previous MacBooks speed, and with longer battery life.
It also runs Iphone apps, which is kind of magical.
And without the hassle of having hardly any native software too.
OK, still doesn't mean that I have to care about it. Especially considering I’m likely going to get the Mac Mini.
The license will hold. It isn't like ARM can retract it (like Intel couldn't kick AMD out, either).
More importantly, they are at the mercy of TSMC manufacturing. So far, they have been quite good. There have been times in the past when that applied to Intel, AMD, IBM, and Motorola as well. Times change.
Then again, Apple has the money to build a FAB if the mood hits them.