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Apple Silicon M1 MacBook Pro Earns 7508 Multi-Core Score in Cinebench Benchmark

j_in_tx said:
Can you tell us how it’s going on M1? Trade-in of 16” 2.3 i9 32gb 1tb 5600m 4gb shows $1430 from Apple. I’m also curious about going this M1 route. I can’t stand the fans always running.
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Um, I'll buy your MBP 16" 2.3 32gb 1tb 5600m for $1,500... for real... DM me.
 
PortoMavericks said:
No, they don’t control the entire pipeline.

The ARM architecture is licensed.
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v3rlon said:
The license will hold. It isn't like ARM can retract it (like Intel couldn't kick AMD out, either).
More importantly, they are at the mercy of TSMC manufacturing. So far, they have been quite good. There have been times in the past when that applied to Intel, AMD, IBM, and Motorola as well. Times change.

Then again, Apple has the money to build a FAB if the mood hits them.
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Apple reportedly has a perpetual ARM license.
 
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joeguide4 said:
What should send fear and trepidation is that in 2021, Apple will sell more Apple Silicon devices (A and M chips) than Intel and AMD combined will sell x86 devices worldwide. Apple has started from A4 to A14 in 10 years. With chips being improved annually, and with economy of scale selling over 250+ million devices, the tide has turned very swiftly.
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Now if only Apple will lower their prices...
 
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djjeff said:
I would expect a professional system to be more capable than a "consumer" oriented system despite who uses it. To call an entry level system a "professional" system seems foolish. I agree with the OP, MacBook would be suitable.
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And so it is. But you’re confused; MacBook Air is the entry level system, not MacBook Pro. As a fanless machine, the Air’s max performance is more limited, but then again, it’s the entry level model 🤷‍♂️

If you need higher performance than the MacBook Air, that’s where MacBook Pro comes in. (Many are purchased by consumers, don’t let the name “MacBook Pro” confuse you.)

There are two 13” MacBook Pro models, one at $1,300 and one at $1,800. It’s been that way for years. The $1,300 Pro is plenty of machine for many pros.
 
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dguisinger said:
You know my M1 MacBook Air also won't compete with a 40 core Xeon server. Its not meant to!
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So it doesn’t compete with AMD mobile chips on multicore performance? OK. So where’s the disagreement here?

The M1 performs roughly equivalent to Intels top i7 mobile chip. That’s good. Really good even. But they don’t touch AMD, and that GSP is only going to get wider when the 5000 series mobile chips are out.

Continually saying “it’s not meant to have great multicore performance” doesn’t add much to the conversation. What’s the point of saying something like that?
 
torana355 said:
The reason for that is the M1 is only 4 high performance cores compared to 8 or higher for the equivalent AMD chip. The fact the M1 is able to keep on par with half the performance cores shows just how good these Apples chips are. Like i said next year when Apple release the higher tier version of the M1 you can start to make better Apple to Apple comparisons, parden the pun lol.
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But it's not just 4 high performance cores though, is it? There are also 4 icestorm cores. The performance multiplier is 5. Why is it 5? Are 4 icestorm cores together only as performant as one firestorm? Is the whole thing throttled down because it can't fit into 15w (possibly more) thermal envelope of 2 port macbook pro? Both of these options seem quite troubling.
 
Robospungo said:
The bottom line is that the M1 appears to be roughly equivalent to the Intel i7-1185G7 (the latest Intel i7 mobile chip manufactured on the 10nm process).

As I said earlier, this is nice effort from Apple, but it's not anything crazy (apart from battery life).
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and the fact that it also runs iPhone software which the intel doesn't do.
 
Robospungo said:
So it doesn’t compete with AMD mobile chips on multicore performance? OK. So where’s the disagreement here?

The M1 performs roughly equivalent to Intels top i7 mobile chip. That’s good. Really good even. But they don’t touch AMD, and that GSP is only going to get wider when the 5000 series mobile chips are out.

Continually saying “it’s not meant to have great multicore performance” doesn’t add much to the conversation. What’s the point of saying something like that?
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The whole thing is kind of pointless really. AMD doesn't run mac software. the 5000 series isn't out.
The next Apple silicon isn't out. This is an exiting start. You can now buy a $999 MacBook air that isn't a dog
or at least its less of a dog than it was before. We're excited, you don't have to be, its fine.
 
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matt_k said:
TDP is completely irrelevant in geekbench though. The whole test is designed not to termal-throttle, so an iPad cpu with 7W TDP can beat a workstation with 150W TDP (single core). On top of that, the single core performance of mobile ryzen is expected to greatly improve with zen3 (just like it did on desktop), and that's still 7nm, compared to apple 5.

Compared to Intel, M1 is truly impressive. I just ran R23 on my 1068NG7 and got 4231 multi core (at almost 30W TDP). If Intel was the only player in town, this would be well worth the hassle of migrating to different instruction set (for people like me, very significant). But it's not. Right now, for the workload that matters for me (sustained multicore performance), it seems to be at best on par with AMD. I really hope that changes with M1X.
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AMD is far ahead on sustained multicore.
 
Robospungo said:
AMD is far ahead on sustained multicore.
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That's a bit premature claim given that we don't actually know the actual power consumption under sustained load of M1 and can't really tell how well it is going to scale with additional cores.
 
matt_k said:
Yes, when you compare it with what intel has to offer, it's great. But Intel is currently far, far behind AMD in multicore performance on 15-25W laptop chips. So if just being better than intel was the goal, Apple could have gone with R7 4800U, which would mean lot less hassle with porting software and giving up Windows compatibility. For some people this transition is going to be very painful, so I'm really hoping for something that doesn't just beat Intel (that is a dead horse already), but also AMD, with a significant margin to make it worth the hassle.
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Geekbench scores for the M1 are almost twice as fast in single-core and >50% more in multi-core runs, than the Ryzen 4700U. Is that a significant enough margin for you?
 
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Justin L Franks said:
Geekbench scores for the M1 are almost twice as fast in single-core and >50% more in multi-core runs, than the Ryzen 4700U. Is that a significant enough margin for you?
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6,874 vs. 7,508 is less than 10%.

1,184 vs. 1500 is not double; it's closer to 25%.

These are cinebench scores, which are superior to geekbench.
 
Robospungo said:
Just checked and I'm getting that same machine for $1,349 with 512 GB SSD.

The same specs for the M1 MacBook Pro puts it at $1,499.

So the Mac is $150 more expensive, though the display is not quite as good on the Dell, but it is a touch screen (1920x1200). Going to a 4k monitor puts it at $150 more than the Macbook.

In any case, the two machines are in the same price category and neither are "entry-level". Far from it.
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I would be interested to see the difference in battery life and fan noise between those two.
I'd never buy a windows machine but I'd still be interested.
 
fel10 said:
Not gonna lie. Very tempted to sell my 16 in and get the new 13 in MacBook Pro
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I just bought the 19 2.3, which is still faster and runs all my software..
THE new mac OS won't run any of my software but I'd still like to have one of the
Airs for Logic and my iPhone music apps!
 
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