It's going to be the year of neither.This is the year of the AR / VR headset, lol.According to Gurman, Mac Pro could still come by December?
It's going to be the year of neither.This is the year of the AR / VR headset, lol.According to Gurman, Mac Pro could still come by December?
Gurman keeps saying this, that the 15" Air is coming at WWDC with M2, followed a few months later by the 13" Air with M3. That just makes no sense. Why would they not just wait until the fall to launch them both with M3? Why make it so the larger Air is "behind" the smaller one?
Unfortunately I also learned that sometimes the most disappointing rumors end up being true..
I am sure “if” nothing is launched during the next event concerning Mac Pro, Apple will say something along the lines of “it’s coming” but later this year or something along that premise.Moving back to x86 is not the solution.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. It’s going to take a while for Apple engineers to make Apple Silicon modular. We thought it would happen with the Mac Studio and it didn’t. multiple GPUs, RAM slots and PCI is not easy to do when your entire system is built around a different architecture. Apple should publicly disclose that its coming, but currently possibly in today engineering.
What if they found out that it is currently not possible to make Apple Silicon modular?Moving back to x86 is not the solution.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. It’s going to take a while for Apple engineers to make Apple Silicon modular. We thought it would happen with the Mac Studio and it didn’t. multiple GPUs, RAM slots and PCI is not easy to do when your entire system is built around a different architecture. Apple should publicly disclose that its coming, but currently possibly in today engineering.
I need a computer with more than the 128gb of ram that the Mac Studio provides. I'm stuck buying a 2019 Mac Pro with a chip being phased out instead of utilizing an Apple Silicon chip which has tremendous speed and memory improvements. It makes sense, if they are still making 'pro' level computers with higher available ram amounts. Otherwise they should just bow out.It's not clear that the whole MacPro concept really makes much sense at this point. We might all be better off if they just concentrated on the Mac Studio.
Mac Studio Pro. They could do that, but it would be far to sensible for them to tolerate.I need a computer with more than the 128gb of ram that the Mac Studio provides. I'm stuck buying a 2019 Mac Pro with a chip being phased out instead of utilizing an Apple Silicon chip which has tremendous speed and memory improvements. It makes sense, if they are still making 'pro' level computers with higher available ram amounts. Otherwise they should just bow out.
The 68k to PPC transition took 31 months (i.e. the last 68k machine was discontinued 31 months after the first PPC was released). We're at 29 months for the Intel to Arm transition, and if the Mac Pro doesn't get updated at WWDC then it's going to exceed that.Really goes to shows how poorly thought out the entire Apple silicon transition was.
Work, make money, create, whatever, all personal computers do the same things.Why? What would that accomplish?
Non-Apple workstations.Oh no! What will the "Pros" use?!? LOL
Or… that the rumor mill overpromises.What Apple rumors are nowadays:
- under display FaceID… delayed, not coming until 202x and when that time nears, delayed again
- under display TouchID… delayed, not coming until 202x and when that time nears, delayed again
- iMac 27… same
- blood glucose monitoring for Apple Watch… same
- bigger MacBook Air… same
- cheaper AppleTV… same
- new Mac Pro… same
- more than 5K display… same
The sensation is always that Apple underdelivers…
This is most likely a highly specialized small market that requires much r&d for limited potential. I think their current offerings are sufficient for the vast majority users, professional or otherwise. One thing is certain — one company will never please all users, so they have to make difficult decisions. That being said, I agree that they should continue to support the Intel Mac Pro in some ways.Virtual Production is practically a dead end on the Mac since most of the back end stuff just does not work on the Mac; I know I have tried.
Designing motion graphics for massive LED displays requires a boat load of RAM and VRAM. My 2019 is an entirely different machine going from 32GB of RAM to 240GB.
Everyone's biggest gripe is the lack of a road map. Just the slightest hint of what Apple has planned would be helpful. The stalling by Apple could be the last nail in the coffin for many. For the initial spend on the 2019 Mac Pro, Apple needs to continue support; and dare I say release AMD W7xxx MPX GPU modules.
My personal thought is that Apple should release a new Mac Pro around the latest Xeon and also offer a motherboard swap option for current 2019 Mac Pro owners. Doing this would allow them the time needed to really hone and perfect what they need to do with Apple Silicon to truly compete within the workstation market.
Apple made the same BS argument for its lack of standard interfaces in the 90s. Just use SCSI ((at at 2-5x (or more) the price)) Apple and its fanboys said. “SCSI is faster” they said. They lost that argument.Apple gives us TB4 throughput instead of a zillion different ports, and I approve. Dongles and docks are easy, but first one needs bandwidth.
that’s not how chips work. The lower end chips are fabbed first. They are smaller and the yield can be higher. It takes longer to get the process working cleanly enough to be able to handle the larger more powerful chips. Intel generally brought out their lower end chips first. The big Xeons (that went into the Mac Pro) came out later and less frequently.Is it just me or are the updated processors a complete mess? Wouldn't one think processors would trickle down from high end device to low end device, or is that just rational thought?
And yet most Mac owners don’t bother to run any Windows software. I finally deleted my last windows VM last year after realizing that I hadn’t opened it up in 3 years. Emptied the trash and freed up some space. Haven’t missed a thing.And most stuff runs on windows and a lot of stuff is exclusive to windows.
Given the amount of misdirection and the number of suggestions on what coming next or not. The only thing to do is ignore 98% of what you read and think in the terms of Apple actually doing that, or not. Usually like thoughts are closer to the truth than what’s being made up to get an online business newspaper hits. Need we say more.Or… that the rumor mill overpromises.
Apple has never revealed their actual plans for the products and features.
Well if the incredibly dumb rumors of them just sticking an M2 chip in it were true, it wouldn't help you exceed 128gb of RAM anyway. And that's one of the many reasons that if they can't make a Mac Pro that greatly exceeds the capabilities of a Mac Studio, they really shouldn't bother (and probably won't)... and should instead continue to just focus on the Mac Studio.I need a computer with more than the 128gb of ram that the Mac Studio provides. I'm stuck buying a 2019 Mac Pro with a chip being phased out instead of utilizing an Apple Silicon chip which has tremendous speed and memory improvements. It makes sense, if they are still making 'pro' level computers with higher available ram amounts. Otherwise they should just bow out.
Though you can run Windows 11 in a VM and you can (or will be able to) run Asahi Linux. We always knew that the binaries would be different as this is a different chip architecture, but both Mac Os and Windows 11 do a good job of automatic cross-compilation.I was wowed by Apple silicon until it became clear that alternate OS compatibility was far, far in the future... maybe not at all.
I think they should do that anyway, but I am certain Apple is not actually concerned about one Mac eating the sales of another Mac... that is purely a stupid Mark Gurman hallucination. If Apple felt that way, they would only make one Macbook model, one iPhone model, and one iPad model, and nothing else.I could see rather Apple put a M2 in Mac Studio and a M3 (or whatever) in Mac Pro. That may not eat Mac Pro sales and give them longer to release Mac Pro.