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Apple is likely to face further increased chip prices as supplier TSMC contends with additional increased costs, Bloomberg reports.

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Japanese chemicals firm Showa Denko K.K. supplies vital chip fabrication materials to TSMC and is now being forced to drastically increase prices on the back of the global chip shortage. Other component makers and material suppliers are making similar moves in the semiconductor industry amid a wider price squeeze.

Showa Denko Chief Financial Officer Hideki Somemiya said "A big theme this year common to all the players in the materials industry is how much cost burden we'd be able to convince customers to share with us. The current market moves require us to ask twice the amount we had previously calculated."

As a key supplier early in the production chain, Showa Denko's price hikes are expected to tighten margins and pressure clients like TSMC to pass on increased costs to their own customers, including Apple. The situation is unlikely to significantly improve until at least 2023, Somemiya told Bloomberg.

In May, Bloomberg reported that TSMC was in the process of warning its customers of a considerable price increase. This came after a hefty 20 percent price hike in 2021, which was said to be the most substantial chip price rise in a decade.

Last year, Nikkei Asia warned that Apple could be forced to pass the increased price of chips onto customers. Apple's flagship iPhone models with 64GB of storage have been priced at $999 since the launch of the iPhone X in 2017 and further price rises have yet to hit the iPhone lineup. This year's iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Max devices are widely expected to retain the same A15 Bionic chip from the iPhone 13 lineup, which may be explained by the ongoing supply chain pressures behind Apple's chips.

Article Link: Apple Silicon Supply Chain Faces Further Price Hikes
 

EugW

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I'm fine with A15 again in iPhone 14 Max. That's probably what the wife will be getting, esp. if it gets 6 GB RAM. I haven't cared much about iPhone SoC speed for about 4-5 years now. Ever since A9 in iPhone 6s got hardware 4K HEVC acceleration, and iPhone 7 Plus got 3 GB RAM, everything else has just been gravy.
 
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izzy0242mr

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It won't happen, but everyone who needs a new phone should just buy a gently used iPhone 13 and they'll honestly be set for a good 3-4 years at least.

I've been saying this for years: the smartphone market is plateauing. New models don't really offer that much more over the previous generation, and that statement becomes more true with every new phone.

Plus, buying new contributes directly to bad environmental practices, exploitative labor markets, and corporate greed. Buy used phones from local and individual sellers in your country. Save hundreds of dollars. Take a step toward a better world.
 

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I'm fine with A15 again in A14 Max. That's probably what the wife will be getting, esp. if it gets 6 GB RAM. I haven't cared much about iPhone SoC speed for about 4-5 years now. Ever since A9 got hardware 4K HEVC decode support, everything else is just gravy.
It's so much speed in phones but efficiency. Efficiency should always be improved too.
 

EugW

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It's so much speed in phones but efficiency. Efficiency should always be improved too.
Efficiency is important, but like I said, it's just gravy these days. Ever since the Max iPhones appeared, battery life hasn't been a big concern for me.

My wife will be overjoyed with an iPhone 14 Plus (or whatever it's called) with 6.7" OLED screen, dual camera lenses (up from one from her XR), and long battery life. And I will appreciate its 6 GB RAM.

Anyhow, it's likely that A16 will be TSMC N5P just like A15 (or else N4 which is similar). It may get more efficient cores, but the change will likely just be incremental. For most mainstream consumers, A16 per se won't be as important as other aspects of the new iPhones, the most important of which would be the introduction of the iPhone 14 Plus model. Fingers crossed that this mythical iPhone 14 Plus actually gets released.
 

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Wouldn't Apple have already agreed to a price before this? I feel like the contracts would have been signed a long time ago for this year's chips so why now would the price change?
 

DakotaGuy

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Apple can probably get away with a modest price increase on the iPhone 14 line even if it retains the same chip. Price increases have not hurt iPhone sales over the years so I don't think a $100-200 price hike depending on the model will hurt anything. People will still line up to buy it and Apple can maintain excellent profit margins.
 
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JPack

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It seems unlikely iPhone 13 will get a price drop this year. iPhone 14 and 14 Pro will likely be bumped up. M1 MBA pricing tells us this is likely.
 

EugW

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It won't happen, but everyone who needs a new phone should just buy a gently used iPhone 13 and they'll honestly be set for a good 3-4 years at least.

I've been saying this for years: the smartphone market is plateauing. New models don't really offer that much more over the previous generation, and that statement becomes more true with every new phone.

Plus, buying new contributes directly to bad environmental practices, exploitative labor markets, and corporate greed. Buy used phones from local and individual sellers in your country. Save hundreds of dollars. Take a step toward a better world.
Problem with this is multi-fold.

1. "Gently used" is still used, which means non-Apple vendor, which is hit and miss for condition.
2. It also means inferior battery life.
3. It also means no Apple warranty, or else very short-lived Apple warranty.

In my experience, you get what you pay for. I do recommend gently used in some cases when budget is an issue, but these days for iPhones I generally only buy new. To put it another way, for my wife, I'd probably rather get a new iPhone 14 Plus than a used iPhone 13 Pro Max.
 

eltoslightfoot

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Problem with this is multi-fold.

1. "Gently used" is still used, which means non-Apple vendor, which is hit and miss for condition.
2. It also means inferior battery life.
3. It also means no Apple warranty, or else very short-lived Apple warranty.

In my experience, you get what you pay for. I do recommend gently used in some cases when budget is an issue, but these days for iPhones I generally only buy new. To put it another way, for my wife, I'd probably rather get a new iPhone 14 Plus than a used iPhone 13 Pro Max.
I have done the opposite of this for a decade straight and every single eBay or Swappa phone I have received has been fantastic. I am not saying that you buy a phone from every seller with zero rating and a brand new account, but I have saved thousands at this point. It works fine.
 

izzy0242mr

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Problem with this is multi-fold.

1. "Gently used" is still used, which means non-Apple vendor, which is hit and miss for condition.
2. It also means inferior battery life.
3. It also means no Apple warranty.

In my experience, you get what you pay for. I do recommend gently used in some cases when budget is an issue, but these days for iPhones I generally only buy new. To put it another way, for my wife, I'd probably rather get a new iPhone 14 Plus than a used iPhone 13 Pro Max.
Eh. Those "problems" are worth saving hundreds of dollars (I've actually more realistically saved thousands over the years by not buying new) and bettering the environment and not being (as) complicit in unethical business practices for me.

You're not going to get a horrible battery on a used iPhone 13; plus, the fact that Apple lets you clearly see any iPhone's battery health really eliminates that as a harm. Find one that has 95%~ battery health and the difference is negligible.

I've never broken or had an issue that required repair on a single phone in over a decade of owning lots of smartphones, so warranty is more or less useless for me.

Sure, there's a risk, but lots of online used phone sales sites have return periods or let you return if it's not as described.

I get that my philosophy is not the case for everyone, but I wish people would give it a little more thought. I'm genuinely surprised at how many people haven't even considered buying a used phone when I suggest it to them.
 

izzy0242mr

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I have done the opposite of this for a decade straight and every single eBay or Swappa phone I have received has been fantastic. I am not saying that you buy a phone from every seller with zero rating and a brand new account, but I have saved thousands at this point. It works fine.
Same. I've been very pleased with my phones. And good sites like eBay and Swappa have good policies that let you return stuff that isn't as described. Absolutely have saved thousands as well.
 

EugW

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I have done the opposite of this for a decade straight and every single eBay or Swappa phone I have received has been fantastic. I am not saying that you buy a phone from every seller with zero rating and a brand new account, but I have saved thousands at this point. It works fine.
I've bought used from brick and mortar cell phone chains, and online. My results have not been consistently great. Sometimes the screens and/or cameras and/or batteries are inferior for example, even if the case looks great.

And others here have been totally scammed, even by sellers with previous positive ratings. Luckily I've never been scammed though.

Eh. Those "problems" are worth saving hundreds of dollars (I've actually more realistically saved thousands over the years by not buying new) and bettering the environment and not being (as) complicit in unethical business practices for me.

You're not going to get a horrible battery on a used iPhone 13; plus, the fact that Apple lets you clearly see any iPhone's battery health really eliminates that as a harm. Find one that has 95%~ battery health and the difference is negligible.

I've never broken or had an issue that required repair on a single phone in over a decade of owning lots of smartphones, so warranty is more or less useless for me.

Sure, there's a risk, but lots of online used phone sales sites have return periods or let you return if it's not as described.

I get that my philosophy is not the case for everyone, but I wish people would give it a little more thought. I'm genuinely surprised at how many people haven't even considered buying a used phone when I suggest it to them.
Except that iPhone 14 Plus would be hundreds of dollars less than than iPhone 14 Pro Max too. Basically the only real difference between those two phones for most people would be the loss of one camera lens.

Like I said, I'd probably rather buy a new iPhone 14 Plus from Apple than a used iPhone 13 Pro Max from some seller on eBay.
 

citysnaps

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Do you think Apple will be able to afford this? Should we start a GoFundMe?

No. Merely be prepared to pay a little more for your next iPhone/iPad/Mac.

Or if that should trigger some personal outrage, simply purchase a product from an Apple competitor.
 

EugW

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Everything has been going up with the current high inflation so I would expect it.
I'm going to bet that the iPhone 14 Pro and iPhone 14 Pro Max are going to stay at the same price point in US dollars.
However, the mythical iPhone 14 Plus is going to be at a new higher price point than the iPhone 13 for obvious reasons.
 

adamw

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Too bad they don't use something that is nearly free, like sand, to make computer chips. Oh wait, they do use silicon from sand. Why are chips so expensive then? Someone is making a lot of money off the increased price of chips.
 
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