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Apple Silicon Supply Chain Faces Further Price Hikes

I think Apple will try to keep a couple of price points. I think the iPhone 14 will stay at $799 and the iPhone 14 Pro will stay at $999 but the iPhone 14 max will probably be $949-999 and the iPhone Pro Max $1149-1199. This is similar to Apple wanting to maintain the $9.99 Apple music cost for regular subscribers whilst putting up the price for students. It wouldn't surprise me to see the family bundle increasing a few $ and the yearly subscription increases from $99 to $109 to keep that headline $9.99 figure.
 
izzy0242mr said:
Or we can stop buying new Apple products. It's still a step in the right direction. Part of why I encourage people to buy used more often.
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sure. i semiagree. used products however generally upsell you apple services like icloud storage and app store apps which Apple gets 30% of. hard to get around that.
 
DakotaGuy said:
The thing is without capitalism you wouldn't have cutting edge products like the iPhone in the first place.
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But do we actually need cutting edge products?

It's undeniable capitalism encourages innovation through financial incentives that just aren't present when overall wealth is relatively fixed and limited in how much any one person can access or accumulate, but that doesn't mean capitalism is without its faults, or that every bit of innovation is worth the cost.

You'd be hard pressed to show serious benefits between the iPhone 11 (a nearly 3 year old device) and upcoming iPhone 14 are honestly that essential in terms of innovation and benefit to society.

I'm not saying you're wrong. We may not have the iPhone 13-esque tech right now in a communist USA. But your comment rests on the unstated assumption that having the "cutting edge" is (a) inherently good and (b) worth the cost of the harms caused by minimally restricted capitalism (namely, rampant consumerism, materialism, greed, necessary exploitation of workers and especially those in less wealthy countries, environmental destruction/contamination/waste/pollution, the list goes on).

Those are undeniable downsides of a system of society in which money is valued and thus pursued virtually above all else. Absent limitations, capitalism will destroy society because in the short term, people care about making money, and if the world burns after they're dead, who cares, as long as they made money while they're alive? Looking at society long-term requires questioning such assumptions and rethinking how to encourage innovation without compromising on human rights (which is ultimately what stuff like exploitation of labor and the environment boil down to: things that harm humans presently and in the future).
 
jdclifford said:
My iPhone 12 Pro and 12 mini will be just fine for another year. I can wait for some real innovation.
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They'll be fine for at least another couple years, and more likely 3-5 more. The iPhone 12 series are incredible phones that have way more power than 95% of people are even realistically using. And the innovation that will come in that time period very likely won't be anything that adds immense value to your life, even if it's "cool."

And hey, if I'm wrong, message me in 4 years and show me that life changing value that the iPhone 17 will have and I'll donate money toward your purchase of it 😂
 
CalMin said:
Fact is that we're in for some tougher times ahead. I'm no economist, but I am old enough to know that things go in cycles, and, well, we've enjoyed a pretty good run for many years now.

Remember, businesses exist to serve shareholders not customers. They will not squeeze profits for the benefit of the customer unless that directly benefits the shareholders (e.g. more overall profit, greater market share etc). We should anticipate higher prices and that things will become less affordable for a time - inflation and higher interest rates will see to that.
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Agreed.

Buy used stuff. Don't support profit-squeezing-at-any-cost. I'd rather my money go directly into the pocket of another average person like me than to a big corporation trying to please rich shareholders.
 
geartau said:
sure. i semiagree. used products however generally upsell you apple services like icloud storage and app store apps which Apple gets 30% of. hard to get around that.
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I've never paid for iCloud storage (I have a Mac but am an Android user; even so, I have 20 GB of free Dropbox storage as I'm an old user and it's plenty). And I rarely buy apps, either.

Not sure how buying used makes you more likely to buy services from Apple (or Google). You're just as likely to buy those whether you buy new or used.
 
adamw said:
Too bad they don't use something that is nearly free, like sand, to make computer chips. Oh wait, they do use silicon from sand. Why are chips so expensive then? Someone is making a lot of money off the increased price of chips.
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Except, high quality sand have long become a commodity in the market and they are more and more rare as time goes on. Basically, they are not cheap anymore. Adding the design, prototype, test cost and expensive equipment that goes with it, Price dropping isn't going to happen anytime soon, definitely not the time where inflation goes through the roof.

The most disgusting part however, is apple WILL become the worlds only $5T company by the end of 2022 financial year.
 
when has cost ever been a factor for buying Apple products? 😹 FFS I just bought a new 16" MBP and Studio Display anticipating wild inflation on the horizon and woooowzer..... bank account took a hit. First new computer and monitor in years and years, 7? I'm typing this on one badass setup.
 
izzy0242mr said:
I've never paid for iCloud storage (I have a Mac but am an Android user; even so, I have 20 GB of free Dropbox storage as I'm an old user and it's plenty). And I rarely buy apps, either.

Not sure how buying used makes you more likely to buy services from Apple (or Google). You're just as likely to buy those whether you buy new or used.
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anecdotal. fact is, the easiest way to back up your phone and photos is through Apple. and the only way to use native third party apps is through the app store.

their services category is the second largest earner in quarterly revenue, ahead of mac and behind iPhone. it's very easy to see Apple to earn revenue off of used device sales.
 
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geartau said:
anecdotal. fact is, the easiest way to back up your phone and photos is through Apple. and the only way to use native third party apps is through the app store.

their services category is the second largest earner in quarterly revenue, ahead of mac and behind iPhone. it's very easy to see Apple to earn revenue off of used device sales.
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That's all true. But 100% irrelevant to buying used or buying new. If you use an iPhone, you're going to get apps from the App Store. Whether you got it used or new has zero bearing on that fact. So I'm not really sure why you brought it up.

You can still decrease the $ going into Apple's pockets by refusing to buy brand new phones from them, and instead opting for slightly used versions of their phones already on the market.
 
izzy0242mr said:
So I'm not really sure why you brought it up.
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what? you were the one that brought up " I encourage people to buy used more often."

i'm saying buying used doesn't make a dent in services which is Apple's fastest growing category in revenue. used isn't going to change Apple's mind as they even forecast hardware slowdown and services being incredibly important to their financial statements.

you don't even remember what you talked about...this conversation is getting ridiculous. i'm done.
 
geartau said:
what? you were the one that brought up " I encourage people to buy used more often."

i'm saying buying used doesn't make a dent in services which is Apple's fastest growing category in revenue. used isn't going to change Apple's mind as they even forecast hardware slowdown and services being incredibly important to their financial statements.

you don't even remember what you talked about...this conversation is getting ridiculous. i'm done.
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It's you who've forgotten, my dude:

geartau said:
used products however generally upsell you apple services like icloud storage and app store apps which Apple gets 30% of. hard to get around that.
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See this? This is what I was saying I don't know why you brought it up. As I said, used devices don't "upsell" Apple services any more than new ones do, so it's a non-unique argument, and therefore irrelevant.

You'll buy Apple services one way or another, but it doesn't mean you can't reduce the amount they profit from in device sales. If enough people do it, it'll have a real impact.
 
Price of Apple devices are going to increase in the future most probably. Hope that an increase in price for the upcoming 14 Pro Max is no more than $100.
 
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svish said:
Price of Apple devices are going to increase in the future most probably. Hope that an increase in price for the upcoming 14 Pro Max is no more than $100.
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If the Pro Max goes up $100, all the more reason to buy the mythical 14 Plus.
 
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