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Apple Sneaks by Android in Fourth Quarter U.S. Smartphone Sales

voonyx said:
ICS is not bad at all, the problem is they're still releasing phones with GB stock...
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It wont be long, but soon Apple's unheralded advantages are going to catch up to their Android competitors:

1) Much safer/hassle-free phone environment.
2) Far better money-making platform for devs (very very limited piracy and copying, which is rampant on Android)
3) Here's the most important. At least in the US, Europe, and now China, unmatchable customer support.
 
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What's Android?
 
Yet another thread with fuzzy math that the sheep can play ookie cookie with. Please save some time and copy and paste the canned comments below:

"Woah, looks like the iPhone 4s was a huge flop"

"Competition is good for the consumer!!"

"This is amazing because Android releases 1,000,000,000 phones every month lolololololol"
 
Themaeds said:
Yet another thread with fuzzy math that the sheep can play ookie cookie with. Please save some time and copy and paste the canned comments below:

"Woah, looks like the iPhone 4s was a huge flop"

"Competition is good for the consumer!!"

"This is amazing because Android releases 1,000,000,000 phones every month lolololololol"
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It has to be a rounding error! :rolleyes:

EDIT: "ookie cookie". Do you really speak like this?
 
It's pretty amazing that a controlled, closed system can beat out shareware.

I think the iPhone is better than 99% of android phones out there, but I never would expect it to sell more just because of the nature in which android is distributed to so many different brands/hardware.

Congrats to Apple for sure, that's a pretty killer accomplishment.
 
Ruh row....what are the fandroids going to do now....

Androids growth was only due to Apple not being in their sandbox and available only on 1 carrier...AT&T...at launch.

As the iPhone has slowly moved into each carriers market, starting with Verizon, then Sprint, with T-Mobile on the horizon and most of the overseas markets, it's fairly obvious Androids market share was only because they had no competition along with putting their 'OS' on any branded smartphone while Apple's is specific to a single tree of model...the iPhone.

Give people a choice, which they didn't have for the most part up until recently and you'll see what they are picking...Apple over Android.

b166er said:
It's pretty amazing that a controlled, closed system can beat out shareware.

I think the iPhone is better than 99% of android phones out there, but I never would expect it to sell more just because of the nature in which android is distributed to so many different brands/hardware.
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Why is it amazing?

The only people touting an open shareware system are the highest of tech nerds...the engineering/techie types. I have tons of friends in these fields and they are the only ones that spout the open source bible nonsense and that is what it is.

People want their stuff to work, look good and function the way it should.

A closed eco-system puts controls in place that we need, not only for the user experience, but the developer experience. No one likes a moving target.

If you give inmates the run of the asylum, you'll see chaos and that is exactly what an open eco-system is, especially for developers.

People hate people controlling them...what most don't realize is some level of control is needed for not only tech but society in general.
 
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Impressive, right?

That's just one manufacturer, with at most, 2-3 phones, running an unlicensed OS. And "walled-garden" and all that stuff.

Now THAT is impressive.
 
It will be really interesting to see the IPhone 4S sales when they really get rolling in China ... sounds like the demand is crazy.
 
linux2mac said:
Well what do we have here? People realizing that they don't want a phone that is the "King Of Malware!" :D


Corporations love iOS more than BlackBerry OS; Android seen as a security risk
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Corp...ry-OS-Android-seen-as-a-security-risk_id26042

Report: Android Is The King Of Malware!
http://www.thetelecomblog.com/2011/08/25/report-android-is-the-king-of-malware/

Is Android becoming the Windows of mobile malware?
http://www.digitaltrends.com/android/is-android-a-dream-platform-for-malware/
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It sounds like your sense of self worth tired is directly to the success of iOS in some kind of weird Elliot/E.T. relationship.

My iOS device is wonderful, but my personal happiness doesn't depend on the OS market share of the device I use. You should try it sometime.
 
Themaeds said:
Yet another thread with fuzzy math that the sheep can play ookie cookie with. Please save some time and copy and paste the canned comments below:

"Woah, looks like the iPhone 4s was a huge flop"

"Competition is good for the consumer!!"

"This is amazing because Android releases 1,000,000,000 phones every month lolololololol"
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This site doesn't seem to be a good fit for you.
 
slrandall said:
Nice, but it probably won't last too long. The number of Android phones out there makes it hard for Apple's products to compete for sheer market share, given how little many people care about which phone they get.
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This is probably right from a US perspective where carriers subsidize phones. From a global perspective, Apple is in a stronger position. Most people don't care which phone they get and go for the cheapest with the most features (free HTC Thunderbolt from Verizon if you switch).

That is why the free/$1 iPhone 3GS is such an important option on AT&T. Android made its surge with free/BOGO offers and opened up the "smartphone" to the masses. These same masses would likely switch to iPhone if free because "iPhone" is a more popular brand name. This coming year the iPhone 4 should be free on every major GSM and CDMA carrier in the USA (crossing fingers for you T-Mobile folks). This will drive market share in a much bigger way for Apple.

I expect Android to edge ahead of Apple in Q3 of this year after Apple's sales in China die down and anticipation for iPhone 5/6 starts climbing (keep in mind that China's iPhone 4S release was in Q2 and not counted in yesterday's numbers and should seriously help Q2). With Android reclaiming by Q3 at the latest, Apple will leap-frog in Q4 with the release of the iPhone 5/6 and the "free" iPhone 4 in the US.

Incidentally, on pure OS marketshare outlook, Apple's Q2 looks really good if they got the iPad 3 out in front of folks in mid February. iPad will also help significantly in Q3.

If Apple does something revolutionary in television this year, then they are poised to have their stock go through the roof.

One Aside: Lots of articles last quarter on Apple "missing expectations" for the first time since 2008. This is such a load of crap. Apple handily beat all their guidance and they were extremely profitable. While such a "miss" is bad for the stock price because the price inflates with exaggerated expectations, it hardly means the on set of Apple's demise as so many writers seemed to believe. Apple can't control the projections of Wall Street analysts who were tired of falling short on Apple projections. Regardless of investor projections, the company was extremely profitable in last quarter, and from what I remember, last quarter set many records for Apple as well. That is hardly the sign of a company "losing their mojo".
 
I’d be curious to know what the largest fully-compatible touch platform is—not a zillion second-hand derivations of Android that are “Android" in name only, but the actual # of users who are able to all run the SAME apps on the SAME OS version. Many Android devices can’t run Android apps, and nearly all of them run long-outdated versions, with no OS upgrade offered.

So what’s the iOS 5 user base (or whatever iOS version is currently most-used?) vs. what’s the user base of Android people on 2.x (or whatever version is most-used) who can ALSO run Android market apps? That would be comparing the two largest “true platforms” in peoples’ hands, and would remove Android fragmentation from the equation. (As well as iOS fragmentation, but of course, that’s less of an issue.)
 
*LTD* said:
The competition just got Appled.
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Let's see this hold but we know that is not going to happen. Pent up demand gave the iPhone a big boost this quarter. Make the quarter the iPhone is realsed rather useless in a market share as it gets a one time boost that fails to hold.
 
Rodimus Prime said:
Let's see this hold but we know that is not going to happen. Pent up demand gave the iPhone a big boost this quarter. Make the quarter the iPhone is realsed rather useless in a market share as it gets a one time boost that fails to hold.
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Lol...hilarious
 
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