Apple Software Updates (this and next) Tuesday

[lewdvig]

Cinebench scores

First time I tried this demo. Nice render. It would have taken my old Amiga weeks to render this scene back in the day.

G4 = 2x800MHz with 1GB SDR RAM
P4 = 3.36GHz with 1GB DDR RAM w/HT
P4M = 1.6GHz with 512MB DDR RAM

My machines performed the followintg way - the G5 2x2GHz score is from Barefeats.

Time in sceonds to render the same scene (lower is better)

G4 P4M G5 P4
1 CPU 348 166 NA 77.9
x CPU 192 NA 66 65.5

G5 optimizations should increase scores another 15-20% at max.

So Mac are slow, but better and I love them. The end.

 

[the future]

Re: Re: Four predictions

Originally posted by lewdvig
You must be stuck the Jobs distortion field. If a G5 running OS X is slower than a fast Dell - and it is - how could it possiblly run Windows faster?

I'm just glad you're not stuck inside the Intel Hype Generator for believing a Dell, any Dell, is faster than the dual 2GHz G5...

 

[yujini]

I would say the centrino is the first CPU that intel made that I am truly impressed with.

A 1.7ghz centrino has the same speed as about a P4 3.0ghz.
The performance doesn't degrade that much when it is run on battery either. The P4's performance almost halvens when run on battery.

 

[JayBee]

Oh, by the way, this appeared on Apple's Hot News yesterday.

Announcement?

 

[JJTiger1]

Folding

You want to keep your computer running and connected 24/7.

You want to save the world 24/7.

You want to make as many points as possible for your team 24/7.

You want to win 24/7.



.. a sucker is born every minute.

 

[coachingguy]

Why?

Why does nearly every posting on MacRumors become infatuated with Powerbooks? This was originally a "Apple Software Updates(this and next) Tuesday" Forum. And yet, 10-15 postings in, it became a Powerbook/hardware posting. Holy Cpu batman, get a life. Eventually, they will come, we will drool and then start asking why they didn't do A?B? or C? It would be really nice to have a topic not become overwhelmed with PB postings...
However, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

 

[JJTiger1]

Re: Why?

Originally posted by coachingguy
Why does nearly every posting on MacRumors become infatuated with Powerbooks? This was originally a "Apple Software Updates(this and next) Tuesday" Forum. And yet, 10-15 postings in, it became a Powerbook/hardware posting. Holy Cpu batman, get a life. Eventually, they will come, we will drool and then start asking why they didn't do A?B? or C? It would be really nice to have a topic not become overwhelmed with PB postings...
However, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

Better question: Why does every thread go off topic?

The short answer: Attention Deficit Disorder.

Tuesday came and went with no News. May as well wish for a PowerBook.

 

[jer2665]

yes indeed, hooray for red jeeps

(hey, it's off topic anyway, im not hurting anything!!)

 

[lewdvig]

Who cares what we talk about? Its fun fun fun!

Yeah!

 

[lewdvig]

Re: Re: Re: Four predictions

Originally posted by the future
I'm just glad you're not stuck inside the Intel Hype Generator for believing a Dell, any Dell, is faster than the dual 2GHz G5...

OK then, really fast Dell.

Its true that 90% of what Dell ships comes with cheapo Celerons and GF FX 5200 class cards (or worse). People get what they pay for.

Me, I've got no complaints with any of my systems (Mac or PC),

 

[edgar_is_good]

Originally posted by JayBee
Oh, by the way, this appeared on Apple's Hot News yesterday.

Announcement?

I don't understand what you're getting at...

 

[themadchemist]

Funny how software updates from Apple are met with excitement, whereas software updates from Microsoft are met with scorn and trepidation...

I guess that's because Apple's got more to offer than a security update.

 

[JJTiger1]

Originally posted by themadchemist
Funny how software updates from Apple are met with excitement, whereas software updates from Microsoft are met with scorn and trepidation...

I guess that's because Apple's got more to offer than a security update.

It does not matter who releases the update, someone will have botched their computer so that any update will cause a malfunction of another bit of botched software.

Plausible scenario:
The vast majority of computer users have MS software.

Users botch software installations and preferences.

Most people fail to accept responsibility.

Therefore: Place the blame for software updates that don't work on your botched machine: MicroSoft.
=-=
D'oh !!

 

[Sol]

Originally posted by JJTiger1
Plausible scenario:
The vast majority of computer users have MS software.

Users botch software installations and preferences.

Most people fail to accept responsibility.

Therefore: Place the blame for software updates that don't work on your botched machine: MicroSoft.
=-=
D'oh !!

What you say is especially true when pirated software is part of the equation. I am not saying that legit software is always trouble free but when people build their own computers and install the OS from a CD-R they have no guarantee that anything will work as it should.

Now, where is the follow-up to OS X.2.6 allready?

 

[JJTiger1]

10.2.x & 10.3.x

Originally posted by Sol


Now, where is the follow-up to OS X.2.6 allready?

Somewhere I have read that 10.2.7 will not be released except on the earliest G5's. 10.2.7 would therefore be "model specific". Sort of like an "enabler" as in OS 6 & 7.

Somewhere I have read that 10.2.8 might be the next OSX update, as soon as it is checked out on duallie-G5's and earlier G's.

10.2.8: I'm guessing mid-November 2003, if it gets released for most G's.

Stay tuned for 10.3 about two months after 10.2.8.

10.3: I'm guessing late January 2004.
... my guess is as good as yours.
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I'm going to hold off on any OS update for my G4. My G4-733's 10.2.6 is not broken. A new OS will have to guarantee a noticeable speed boost.

 

[whooleytoo]

vImage and LiveFonts?

Speaking of software announcements, am I the only one who hadn't heard of these two?

vImage seems to be OS level support for graphics processing, heavily reliant on Altivec (hence the 'v'). This would allow Panther folder actions to include basic to advanced image processing and conversion - if this is correct, no wonder Adobe is nervous.

LiveFonts is a new animated font standard. One of the apps included with Final Cut Pro (LiveType) uses this feature, does anyone else know much about it?

These are two features I'd love to see demod in Paris.
Mike.