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Apple Software Updates (this and next) Tuesday
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Originally posted by cb911
hhmmm... no PowerBooks tomorrow, eh? well they can't be far behind. now that the iMac has been updated there's no way Apple can leave the PowerBooks specs below that of their 'consumer' model. Pro's need more power after all! and i'm not just talking about power power, i'm talking about portable power!
and whatever iTMS is released i just hope it means i can buy songs from Australia!but prolly not yet...
I totally agree with you about the PB update. They're gonna have to be faster than imacs and if Steve is gonna annouce them HIMSELF in Paris it's not gonna be some lame little update. It's not gonna be a G5 PB, but maybe something else. A G4 chip that's faster than the one we all expect they're gonna put in?
What about a dual configuration of G4 chips in the new PB? Is that even possible?
Wow. Folks here are suggesting everything from Final Cut Express to iWorks to a Wintel emulator as the surprise. We should feel like a kid in a candy store--gee which option do we want most!
For the "expected" software update, I'm hoping it's XCode.
For the "expected" software update, I'm hoping it's XCode.
Apple is going to release 1.25 Ghz Powerbooks
and we are all going to be pissed because the Pro-laptops will have the same speed as the Non-pro-desktops (new imacs.)
COME ON APPLE, BRING ON THE POWERBOOK G5!!
and we are all going to be pissed because the Pro-laptops will have the same speed as the Non-pro-desktops (new imacs.)
COME ON APPLE, BRING ON THE POWERBOOK G5!!
I've fallen to the temptation of the dark side
Well, today I ordered an IBM X31.
It's a centrino-based laptop at 1.4 GHz with integrated bluetooth and Wireless LAN. It has a 12" XGA screen and weighs in at about 3.2 lbs.
Normally, this would set me back big time, but my university had a really, and i mean shamelessly, low price. It cost me $1120... Pretty sweet. A comparable apple laptop would have costed me twice as much.
Ah, well, at this rate I'll switch again in a year and a half or so.
Well, today I ordered an IBM X31.
It's a centrino-based laptop at 1.4 GHz with integrated bluetooth and Wireless LAN. It has a 12" XGA screen and weighs in at about 3.2 lbs.
Normally, this would set me back big time, but my university had a really, and i mean shamelessly, low price. It cost me $1120... Pretty sweet. A comparable apple laptop would have costed me twice as much.
Ah, well, at this rate I'll switch again in a year and a half or so.
Re: Photopro 1.0
Okay, you're onto something here. This would be wicked although it might signal the end for Photoshop on the Mac platform. That's okay for me, though. I'm no Photoshop expert.
So my dream pics are PhotoPro 1.0 and Document 1.0 for OSX. (My TextEdit is virtually useless 'cause it's the only app I have that can't switch languages.)
Squire
Okay, you're onto something here. This would be wicked although it might signal the end for Photoshop on the Mac platform. That's okay for me, though. I'm no Photoshop expert.
So my dream pics are PhotoPro 1.0 and Document 1.0 for OSX. (My TextEdit is virtually useless 'cause it's the only app I have that can't switch languages.)
Squire
Photoshop & After Effects
No way would Apple release its own Photoshop. Why should they when the real thing is still being developed and supported? Why should they when most graphics artists are perfectly happy with it? Not only that but Adobe also sells Photoshop Elements which is a great application for anyone who wants Photoshop without CMYK colour support (or the high price).
As for the other idea, Apple allready sells Shake which is kind of like a high-end After Effects. Perhaps Apple could release a new iApp based on Shake especially now that After Effects is not as optimised for G4s as well as it has been for Pentiums.
No way would Apple release its own Photoshop. Why should they when the real thing is still being developed and supported? Why should they when most graphics artists are perfectly happy with it? Not only that but Adobe also sells Photoshop Elements which is a great application for anyone who wants Photoshop without CMYK colour support (or the high price).
As for the other idea, Apple allready sells Shake which is kind of like a high-end After Effects. Perhaps Apple could release a new iApp based on Shake especially now that After Effects is not as optimised for G4s as well as it has been for Pentiums.
Re: Photoshop & After Effects
I totally agree.
I've read a lot of threads recently about why Apple should release a competitor to Photoshop, MS Office - and even an Apple digital camera and PDA...
These are all BAD ideas! Although Apple makes great software and hardware, they need to be careful not to tread on the toes of too many other companies, or face even more developers not supporting the Mac!
I totally agree.
I've read a lot of threads recently about why Apple should release a competitor to Photoshop, MS Office - and even an Apple digital camera and PDA...
These are all BAD ideas! Although Apple makes great software and hardware, they need to be careful not to tread on the toes of too many other companies, or face even more developers not supporting the Mac!
I know this is a software thread, but ...
straight from the rpi apple store:
(bolds added by me)
store is here: http://www.rpi.edu/computerstore/apple.html, however a valid RPI username / ID is required to get in
That promotion has been up for aboiut 2 or 3 weeks now I think
as for software: it wasn't all perfect already?
straight from the rpi apple store:
(bolds added by me)
store is here: http://www.rpi.edu/computerstore/apple.html, however a valid RPI username / ID is required to get in
That promotion has been up for aboiut 2 or 3 weeks now I think
as for software: it wasn't all perfect already?
This is one of the biggest noob-fests ever... and since I've been around for a year and a half, that gives me seniority over the other "macrumors regular"s...
It's... crazy... I just expect something little like a Safari Update.
It's... crazy... I just expect something little like a Safari Update.
Re: Re: Photoshop & After Effects
You're right about Photoshop, digital cameras and PDAs. But I think an Apple Office suite could work if it imports from and exports to MS Office flawlessly and this might be even harder Apple is able to communicate this loud and clear to the would-be switchers. MS Office is *still* horribly overpriced and any blow to MS' evil empire is highly appreciated.
You're right about Photoshop, digital cameras and PDAs. But I think an Apple Office suite could work if it imports from and exports to MS Office flawlessly and this might be even harder Apple is able to communicate this loud and clear to the would-be switchers. MS Office is *still* horribly overpriced and any blow to MS' evil empire is highly appreciated.
Re: Re: Re: Photoshop & After Effects
Point taken...
I hate BillG and Micro$oft just as much as the next guy, and agree that any blow to them is a Good Thing. Here's to iOffice for MacOS X...!
Point taken...
I hate BillG and Micro$oft just as much as the next guy, and agree that any blow to them is a Good Thing. Here's to iOffice for MacOS X...!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Photoshop & After Effects
And while we're at it: the biggest possible blow would be a lightning fast windows emulator, iDoze or something, so switchers could still use their old software, thus minimizing the (perceptioned) risk they're taking. And *without* the spyware/DRM/big brother crap, obviously. Oops, there goes MS cashcow # 2. If only this would happen/was possible...
Originally posted by DanUk2003
I hate BillG and Micro$oft just as much as the next guy, and agree that any blow to them is a Good Thing. Here's to iOffice for MacOS X...!
And while we're at it: the biggest possible blow would be a lightning fast windows emulator, iDoze or something, so switchers could still use their old software, thus minimizing the (perceptioned) risk they're taking. And *without* the spyware/DRM/big brother crap, obviously. Oops, there goes MS cashcow # 2. If only this would happen/was possible...
I think, even with competition, MS would not want to pull Office from the Mac platform.
Recently, it was revealed that out of all their products, only two - Windows and Office - make any sort of significant money, and they finance all other MS ventures. Which is pretty much standard business practice for large companies... your big moneymakers finance your other projects.
The point in this situation is that Office revenue is very important to Microsoft. Even with an Apple-developed challenger, I don't think they'd be quick to yank their product, especially with Apple's growing market share.
I would be more worried about them fighting back (messing with their file formats, etc, to make things more difficult) than I would losing support outright. Of course, Apple could always tap into the OpenOffice community and combine efforts for cracking any new file format Microsoft comes up with, for mutual gain... I'm sure the OO crew would enjoy the help.
Recently, it was revealed that out of all their products, only two - Windows and Office - make any sort of significant money, and they finance all other MS ventures. Which is pretty much standard business practice for large companies... your big moneymakers finance your other projects.
The point in this situation is that Office revenue is very important to Microsoft. Even with an Apple-developed challenger, I don't think they'd be quick to yank their product, especially with Apple's growing market share.
I would be more worried about them fighting back (messing with their file formats, etc, to make things more difficult) than I would losing support outright. Of course, Apple could always tap into the OpenOffice community and combine efforts for cracking any new file format Microsoft comes up with, for mutual gain... I'm sure the OO crew would enjoy the help.
Was just about to say that... thank you, hayesk.
800 MHz iBook with Bluetooth and Airport comes to $1100 or so. 900 MHz 'Book with BT and Airport comes to approximately $1400. Battery life is on par with the Centrino, and the CPU is at least as powerful (especially with Panther). Centrinos really aren't good processors, though they do make Wintel battery life LESS laughably short.
If that Centrino deal was a "shamelessly" low price, I feel bad for you... this is the standard Apple price I'm quoting, and you get Mac OS instead of Windows...
Like hayesk said, hope you're not a math major... and hope you've learned to research products better
800 MHz iBook with Bluetooth and Airport comes to $1100 or so. 900 MHz 'Book with BT and Airport comes to approximately $1400. Battery life is on par with the Centrino, and the CPU is at least as powerful (especially with Panther). Centrinos really aren't good processors, though they do make Wintel battery life LESS laughably short.
If that Centrino deal was a "shamelessly" low price, I feel bad for you... this is the standard Apple price I'm quoting, and you get Mac OS instead of Windows...
Like hayesk said, hope you're not a math major... and hope you've learned to research products better
Possible announcements, in order of decreasing likelihood.
iCal, Safari, and QuickTime updates.
Panther released on 10/3
iTunes Windows in November.
AppleWorks 7 / iOffice.
Safari Windows.
New Apple 17" Cinema display, upgrades to 20" and 23" Cinema displays.
QuickTime Movie Store announcement: new version of QuickTime integrates an MP4-based DRMed video store analogous to iTunes; movies can only be read by QuickTime and can't be burned to standard DVD format.
iCal, Safari, and QuickTime updates.
Panther released on 10/3
iTunes Windows in November.
AppleWorks 7 / iOffice.
Safari Windows.
New Apple 17" Cinema display, upgrades to 20" and 23" Cinema displays.
QuickTime Movie Store announcement: new version of QuickTime integrates an MP4-based DRMed video store analogous to iTunes; movies can only be read by QuickTime and can't be burned to standard DVD format.
Re: Re: Photoshop & After Effects
Of what benefit are any of Adobe's apps to Apple? None of them have any Mac-specific features; they all run equally well on Windows (and to have Adobe tell it, they run better on Windows).
How is Adobe helping Apple? It's not.
Final Cut Pro wipes up the floor with Premiere.
DVD Studio Pro wipes up the floor with *any* Windows DVD software under $1000.
Soundtrack and LiveType are best in class on any platform.
Who's to say Apple can't create digital image software that will wipe the floor with Photoshop?
Apple already has all the parts they need:
1. The already have a GUI application framework (FCP, DVDSP, LiveType, SoundTrack, and Compressor all share the same UI components).
2. They already have image/video editing tools in FCP. Making them work with bitmaps instead of video isn't rocket science.
3. They already have image organizing tools in iPhoto.
4. They already have text and graphic manipulation in tools like DVDSP 2, LiveType, and Keynote.
I don't mean to trivialize the amount of work it takes to create a Photoshop-quality application, but Apple clearly has all the engineering skills they need.
Then they package all their Pro applications up as a suite, and sell it with a new PowerMac or PowerBook at a discount. Nobody on the Windows side can compete with that, because whatever Apple loses in software discounts it makes up in hardware markups. How can Adobe compete with that?
(In some ways, this is scary because it puts all your eggs in one basket. On the other hand, Apple really has done a bang-up job with all their Pro apps.)
Of what benefit are any of Adobe's apps to Apple? None of them have any Mac-specific features; they all run equally well on Windows (and to have Adobe tell it, they run better on Windows).
How is Adobe helping Apple? It's not.
Final Cut Pro wipes up the floor with Premiere.
DVD Studio Pro wipes up the floor with *any* Windows DVD software under $1000.
Soundtrack and LiveType are best in class on any platform.
Who's to say Apple can't create digital image software that will wipe the floor with Photoshop?
Apple already has all the parts they need:
1. The already have a GUI application framework (FCP, DVDSP, LiveType, SoundTrack, and Compressor all share the same UI components).
2. They already have image/video editing tools in FCP. Making them work with bitmaps instead of video isn't rocket science.
3. They already have image organizing tools in iPhoto.
4. They already have text and graphic manipulation in tools like DVDSP 2, LiveType, and Keynote.
I don't mean to trivialize the amount of work it takes to create a Photoshop-quality application, but Apple clearly has all the engineering skills they need.
Then they package all their Pro applications up as a suite, and sell it with a new PowerMac or PowerBook at a discount. Nobody on the Windows side can compete with that, because whatever Apple loses in software discounts it makes up in hardware markups. How can Adobe compete with that?
(In some ways, this is scary because it puts all your eggs in one basket. On the other hand, Apple really has done a bang-up job with all their Pro apps.)
Software announcment possibilities
I think it's a good possibility os 10.2.8 will be out with quicktime 6.4. ical and isync updates. Ichat AV will be out but requires you to purchase for $25. New safari, itunes for windows and mac (for europeans). Release date for Panther announced. Apple announce they bought out Luxology. Pixar Renderman beta (demo). Maya unlimited. Adobe will announce their new products.
I think it's a good possibility os 10.2.8 will be out with quicktime 6.4. ical and isync updates. Ichat AV will be out but requires you to purchase for $25. New safari, itunes for windows and mac (for europeans). Release date for Panther announced. Apple announce they bought out Luxology. Pixar Renderman beta (demo). Maya unlimited. Adobe will announce their new products.
