You won’t get a counter argument because there is none to be made. Google doesn’t sell data. @ersan191 is flat out wrong but clearly won’t own it.
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Apple Sold an Estimated 600,000 HomePod Speakers During the First Quarter of 2018
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You won’t get a counter argument because there is none to be made. Google doesn’t sell data. @ersan191 is flat out wrong but clearly won’t own it.
I have heard of people saying that they were having a conversation and then they received ads on their phones or facebook for what they were talking about. As if they phones mics were turned on.
Now, they have mics on at all times with a dedicated unit in peoples households. Granted, I know this is a bit "tin-foil hattie" but there have been quite a few stories about spoken conversations leading to advertisements.
Take that into account with everyone pushing for their microphone speakers in everyones household at razor thin margins as you say.
Typically, you’ll end up realizing it’s a lot more simple than them listening. These companies are scraping every website you go to. They don’t need your voice data. They know what you’re searching for, what websites you go to, how long you’re on them, and when you went to them.
Mono speakers sacrifice an entire dimension of sound, discarding almost half the information present in nearly all recorded music, a bizarre and unnecessary compromise for a speaker which claims quality.
You can't say that too loud here, not many have the logic to realize this and swear that it is the best sounding speaker.
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I am not going to bother with counter points on all the quotes, because it will basically be repeating my self, and maybe it is my fault for not explaining my reasoning well. The two issues I had with the original quoted post was the following:
Because if there was a high amount of returns, this impacts the sales number.
I completely understand that certain data such as returns would not be easy to obtain and/or estimate, but I still disagree with your post that I originally quoted, and nothing you posted since explained why including returns would be a bad or unnecessary thing, other than not being able to estimate these numbers.
In the article, Home Pod sales are estimated, and maybe it could have estimated returns too, especially with the threads about so many Home Pod being returned.
The other issue was this post, which is off topic from the article, but not correct which is why I took issue with it:
Companies like Apple do determine this for financial accounting. The number of returns is estimated. The actual number of returns is taken in account as an adjustment later on.
Aside from being required by law for financial accounting, this information can be used internally for making decisions on individual products. So, even if it was not required, I am sure that companies would still do this for decision making purposes.
Are you saying the company you worked for had returns but didn't account for them? Was that company publicly traded like Apple? Probably not, because they could get in big trouble for not having returns reflected in their net sales.
I won't make any comments about your knowledge or experience, but I will leave you with a few links about sales returns and refunds:
Apple's own SEC Filing:
The Company also records reductions to revenue for expected future product returns based on the Company’s historical experience.
bizfluent.com on recording a sales return:
When a business issues a refund for a product, it must account for this refund on its financial statements.
smallbusiness.chron.com on GAAP Refund:
When a business sells products that a customer can return for a refund, it must make two accounting decisions. First, the business must determine when to recognize revenue from the sale of a returnable good. When the proceeds of the sale are recognized, the business includes them in the business’s revenue for the period. Next, the business must record a contingency for future returns.
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For those wanting a price cut, Micro Center is selling HomePods brand-new, in-store for $299. Plenty in stock.
My guess is that they're clearing orders the big box retailers placed with Apple in advance, but now find they can't sell. All my local Best Buy's (for example) have had plenty available since launch. They can't even shift their discounted open-boxes. Nobody's buying.
Me? I'll wait for the price to drop another $150.
My guess is that they're clearing orders the big box retailers placed with Apple in advance, but now find they can't sell. All my local Best Buy's (for example) have had plenty available since launch. They can't even shift their discounted open-boxes. Nobody's buying.
Me? I'll wait for the price to drop another $150.
Here in italy (and 80% of EU countries) HomePod is not even listed in music section on Apple store. Only France and Deutschland have a page dedicated to HomePod, but still not available for purchase. Siri in here works even worse than US and UK, go figure.
The diehard fans have purchased theirs. I don’t see any evidence that it’s popular either. Discounted and readily available doesn’t suggest a hit.
I see parallels between HomePod and the Watch. I think the watch had a bigger built-in market at launch, but after those people bought, the rest of us had to be convinced of its utility. Sales clearly suggest that Apple is convincing people. I had no interest in the watch but I now have one for the gym. I love being able to load a workout and have the watch step me through it, record my stats, and time my breaks between sets. There are some great fitness apps and so, for me, the watch now has value. I don’t wear it otherwise.
HomePod also had a built-in market, a much smaller one in my mind. Can Apple convince the rest of us? So far, not me. I tried it and didn’t like it. Once the software and feature set matures, maybe I’ll try it again. It’s very nice hardware and Siri works quite well at controlling Apple Music. But I didn’t care for the sound that much, certainly not enough to replace the Play5 I’m using. But, just like a good fitness app brought me to the watch, improvements to HomePod like being able to set them up in pairs or use them for AppleTV surround sound, might convince me to buy.
You might because while it is not causation and not near 100%, you are more likely to see long-term support of your widget by the company of that line of widget is profitable. This is the primary reason I switched to the iPhone platform years back. The long-term support is unmatched in the industry, and I would guess some good measure of the profits of the iPhone line is because Apple sells to customers like me who care of this.
Estimated 600,000 HomePod speakers:-they wouldn't know.
Home Pod is the best low cost speaker I have purchased.
Naim "MUSO" has to be the best medium cost speaker and I have 2.
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Most wouldn't play good quality music so Mono is fine.
It's going to be a different story once Home Pod plays stereo with 2 speakers.
Home Pod is the best low cost speaker I have purchased.
Naim "MUSO" has to be the best medium cost speaker and I have 2.
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Most wouldn't play good quality music so Mono is fine.
It's going to be a different story once Home Pod plays stereo with 2 speakers.
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If you want a nice sounding bluetooth speaker for home use and don't really care about the Siri functionality, just get a single active studio monitor speaker (The KRK Rokit 6 are okay for listening to music), a mid/high end bluetooth audio receiver (make sure it supports aptX, i.e. lossless audio and low power drain) and you got yourself a pretty badass system for around $150 if you buy the monitor speaker used. Only caveat is that those speakers are directional and you need some adapter to make the stereo signal into a mono signal (or use the accessibility setting on the iPhone).
You can still use Siri on your iPhone or Watch.
You can still use Siri on your iPhone or Watch.
Two points.
One, if you don’t like the price — don’t buy it.
Second, this entire comparison is iditiotic. We have created a culture where if you’re not # 1 then you’re failing. Apple doesn’t have to “catch up” to anyone. I’m pretty sure Porsche sells fewer cars than Toyota, yet you will not see anyone comparing sales of the 911 to Camry. Amazon products are junk — both hardware and software. Google collects so much data that you may as well get the product free. You’d be paying for it with targeted advertising anyway.
One, if you don’t like the price — don’t buy it.
Second, this entire comparison is iditiotic. We have created a culture where if you’re not # 1 then you’re failing. Apple doesn’t have to “catch up” to anyone. I’m pretty sure Porsche sells fewer cars than Toyota, yet you will not see anyone comparing sales of the 911 to Camry. Amazon products are junk — both hardware and software. Google collects so much data that you may as well get the product free. You’d be paying for it with targeted advertising anyway.
That's why I'll be buying a second one the moment AirPlay 2 is available for it.
Yeah, that is one advantage of Amazon/Google - they will let third parties build it into their own hardware for something like a stereo. I don't think we'll ever see a stereo with Siri built in (Which in its current state is just fine, of course
)Yeah, that is one advantage of Amazon/Google - they will let third parties build it into their own hardware for something like a stereo. I don't think we'll ever see a stereo with Siri built in (Which in its current state is just fine, of course
Maybe Timmy, son of Siri, will support 3rd party devices.
I have a number of no name outlets and lightbulbs. They all work flawlessly and I don't want to replace them all. I have also found that my Eco-Bee thermostat works better with my Echo than Siri.