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A concept of mine for a new mac accessory - Apple Space Mouse. It will use spatial gestures similar to a magic track pad.
It is modeled in Plasticity.
 

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That looks even worse to use than the hockey puck. We are talking precision movements by air wavings, or do you touch the black part? At least it is different, that is for sure.
This is just a concept. In actuality it should be easy to use, due to it’s ergonomic design. The spacial display is for the thumb and the haptic panel on the other side is for the fingers.
 
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I’ve used the Logitech MX Vertical for years, you should study the differences in shape because that’s why this concept doesn’t seem comfortable to me. The touchpad could be way in the front while the thumb controls could be more in the back.
 
It would be exhausting to hover your hand steadily over this device. The thing being overlooked here is that your hand rests on a normal mouse and uses it or stability.

Go hold your hand out in the air for 5 minutes straight and watch carefully to see how much your hand starts moving and how fatigued your arm gets.
 
It would be exhausting to hover your hand steadily over this device. The thing being overlooked here is that your hand rests on a normal mouse and uses it or stability.

Go hold your hand out in the air for 5 minutes straight and watch carefully to see how much your hand starts moving and how fatigued your arm gets.
There is no need to hold your hand straight, your hand can rest on the back of the space mouse. It is not that difficult. Anyway this is just a concept nothing more.
 
Wouldn’t it make more sense for Apple to replace the existing camera on a Mac or pro display with a spatial camera that tracks all your hand gestures, eliminating the need for an accessory like this entirely? What are we gaining here?
 
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surely you jest, in accord with an earlier responder I'm not keen on the Magic Mouse, I'm more old school the track ball is my choice for all its faults - a blue tooth wireless trackball would be nice
 
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Wouldn’t it make more sense for Apple to replace the existing camera on a Mac or pro display with a spatial camera that tracks all your hand gestures, eliminating the need for an accessory like this entirely?
Honestly, not really. The Vision is able to do hand gestures because the camera placement near the eyes means the hands are mostly operating in front of you (especially if you reach out to interact with what’s in front of your eyes. Have the camera facing you adds some limits, but I think you can see Apple already implemented a solution: the new Mac’s offer “desktop view” in FaceTime, so it can share both your face and what’s on your desk. Trouble is, the field of view is *very* specific. You'd have to have your hands in that specific area to register. Nearly impossible to do with a laptop, and not convenient if you are typing on a keyboard. Awful if you are going to rest your arms on the chair rest, and use your figures in a relaxed position. The easy fix would be more cameras, likely needing to protrude from the screen. iPhone Camera Bump, meet iMac Camera Pimples!
 
Interesting concept, but I'm one of the few who actually likes the MM, except for the head-scratching placement of the charge port.
Is it confirmed or urban myth that Jobs or Ives insisted that the mouse not have a cable protruding from it when working?
 
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Honestly, not really. The Vision is able to do hand gestures because the camera placement near the eyes means the hands are mostly operating in front of you (especially if you reach out to interact with what’s in front of your eyes. Have the camera facing you adds some limits, but I think you can see Apple already implemented a solution: the new Mac’s offer “desktop view” in FaceTime, so it can share both your face and what’s on your desk. Trouble is, the field of view is *very* specific. You'd have to have your hands in that specific area to register. Nearly impossible to do with a laptop, and not convenient if you are typing on a keyboard. Awful if you are going to rest your arms on the chair rest, and use your figures in a relaxed position. The easy fix would be more cameras, likely needing to protrude from the screen. iPhone Camera Bump, meet iMac Camera Pimples!
Guessing you don't own a Vision Pro.
 
Interesting concept, but I'm one of the few who actually likes the MM, except for the head-scratching placement of the charge port.
Same here. There current Magic Mouse works perfectly for me. The location of the charging port is stupid, and yet it hasn't really caused me troubles in the past so many years.
 
Guessing you don't own a Vision Pro.
Had one for a week, loved it, had to return it because our fridge and dish washer died at the same time. Looking forward to seeing the product evolve. When I was sitting down on the couch and my hands were outside the field of view of the gesture cameras or if I held them in a typing stance, it would miss the forefinger-thumb pinch. It was easy to adjust while wearing the cameras, you adapt quickly, again because what you are interacting with is in front of you and the IR cameras. You can get it all done with a visual camera if you wanted to, but the camera is going to have to point down (which newer Macs show off they do already with Desktop view). You could build IR cameras into the chin of an iMac for a similar effect, but if your desk is ergonomically focused like mine where the keyboard lives in a drawer at elbow-level while seated, and the screen raised to eye level to prevent hunching over, your hands are BELOW the desk surface, and mac-mounted cams won't see them. You are going to have the same "gorilla arm" effect Phil Schiller argued left Mac Touch Screen ideas DOA.

The only real way to do it is to combine eye tracking with hand tracking (and get really good algorithms for when the floating hand is blocking the user's eyes from the cameras) and make the gesture area reserved for in front of the screen like a "no-touch touch screen" which is still "gorilla arm"
 
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