I am prove that this is not true. I probably am a minority but if you look at previous years, Apple updated the whole lineup before or during the back to school promo.
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Apple Spokesperson Confirms New Mac Pro Designs Likely Coming in 2013 [Update: Not iMac]
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I am prove that this is not true. I probably am a minority but if you look at previous years, Apple updated the whole lineup before or during the back to school promo.
I knew his information wasn't correct on the iMac. There would be no way Apple would let the iMac linger that long.
The iMac isn't considered a 'Pro' device even though many of us use the top of the line one.
So I'm glad at least they clarified it...but I definitely knew they were only talking about the Mac Pro.
Now...WTF is the Mac Pro going to have
I knew his information wasn't correct on the iMac. There would be no way Apple would let the iMac linger that long.
The iMac isn't considered a 'Pro' device even though many of us use the top of the line one.
So I'm glad at least they clarified it...but I definitely knew they were only talking about the Mac Pro.
Now...WTF is the Mac Pro going to have
Retina 96gb of ram, 4tb of SSD goodness new toy-like design
Exactly. I like the cheese grader. It is heavy and very uncomfortable to carry, but design wise it is great! Internal updates please, keep the box.
Why? A design change isn't warranted by ivy bridge. Maybe when Haslam comes out next year. Still why does the iMac need to be any thinner? And how....why get rid of an optical drive in an all in one desktop this year? They might do a macpro like screen that would reduce glare and make it thinner, and that could happen this year based on the April rumors.
The other change might be combo ssd and hard drives that might imdeed require dumping optical. But I doubt if they go to retinal displays this year for iMac. They would cost way more than the full BTO MacBook pro. Prices for 'retinal' will decline, but until they do, I doubt too much tinkering with the current iMac design.
But I agree we'll probably see spec bumped iMac in the next few months. Nothing magic about October or any other particular month as it will be silent. When they are ready to go. In apples interest to be before school and Xmas.
The Mac Pro and the iMac are approaching EOL. The desktop itself is approaching EOL. They don't get frequent design updates because there isn't that much you can do on the desktop that will actually drive sales. Bigger screen, faster processor, faster graphicsbut the average iMac consumer just doesn't care about what "generation" of hardware is inside. The iMac hasn't changed much since 2005. Plastic to metal and a bigger screen. While they've stolen away PC sales for all-in-ones, the category isn't booming the way notebook sales are YOY. All the growth is in notebook and device sales.
The more interesting thing is what happens when the desktop is no longer necessary. When a notebook becomes the primary device for everyone. When you need better graphics and you pick up an external graphics card that sits between your notebook and the display, or is built into the display. Not maintaining this idea of we have of a "desktop".
I would hope that the next Apple product that sits on a desk is neither an iMac nor a Mac Pro. The concept is just so dated. We're already starting to see third party hardware for Thunderbolt that used to only exist in the internal PCI/PCI-E form factor. Fibre channel, RAID, encoding/transcoding hardware, audio interfaces cards all of this already exists for Thunderbolt.
The more interesting thing is what happens when the desktop is no longer necessary. When a notebook becomes the primary device for everyone. When you need better graphics and you pick up an external graphics card that sits between your notebook and the display, or is built into the display. Not maintaining this idea of we have of a "desktop".
I would hope that the next Apple product that sits on a desk is neither an iMac nor a Mac Pro. The concept is just so dated. We're already starting to see third party hardware for Thunderbolt that used to only exist in the internal PCI/PCI-E form factor. Fibre channel, RAID, encoding/transcoding hardware, audio interfaces cards all of this already exists for Thunderbolt.
I have a BTO 2011 3.4GHz i7 iMac with a 256GB SSD and a 2TB HDD. It's not a "hybrid" setup -- hybrid implies that the OS sees both drives as one volume. My two drives are seen as two distinct volumes. That said, the configuration works great. The OS and apps are all on the SSD and my home folder (media, settings, etc) and other data is on the HDD. The computer screams.
That said, my iMac is now my one and only computer (gave my wife my i7 MBP and am selling the C2D MBP -- just don't need anything portable that's more powerful than my iPad), so I'll likely upgrade to the newest iMac when it's released (faster SSDs, USB 3, and a faster GPU are all selling points). I was really looking forward to stepping up to the Mac Pro in the next few weeks, but it looks like that won't be a possibility for quite some time. Oh well, maybe I'll dump my '12 iMac for a '13 MP when the time comes...fortunately Apple desktops hold their values astonishingly well.
We could see Retina iMacs...don't be surprised...Apple could literally put most of the other desktop makers in the grave if they come out with something amazing.
I'd love to see Apple do something like the HP-Z1. That is exactly what an iMac should be...but alas we'll never get that.
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Certainly a first I have seen apple show a "new" on their store sites only to remove it within 24 hours.
They really could be innovative and come up with a new Pro Desktop using thunderbolt technology so people could use different modules to achieve whatever power CPU/Graphics suits their pockets, or their business.
The late great SJ was very open regarding the demise of xserve, they did not sell enough of them, and I hope that Apple will use their own genius to come up with something new for those who prefer more powerful machines. The iMac to me who lives in Singapore is an unwelcome room heater, and it is too difficult to upgrade.
Since the introduction of thunderbolt, Tim Cook has lost a great opportunity to show that apple will continue to set new trends in the future rather than continue with pointless law suits that only lawyers gain from.
Come on Apple - you need to do better - your fanboyz are your greatest strength - do not be complacent.
Certainly a first I have seen apple show a "new" on their store sites only to remove it within 24 hours.
They really could be innovative and come up with a new Pro Desktop using thunderbolt technology so people could use different modules to achieve whatever power CPU/Graphics suits their pockets, or their business.
The late great SJ was very open regarding the demise of xserve, they did not sell enough of them, and I hope that Apple will use their own genius to come up with something new for those who prefer more powerful machines. The iMac to me who lives in Singapore is an unwelcome room heater, and it is too difficult to upgrade.
Since the introduction of thunderbolt, Tim Cook has lost a great opportunity to show that apple will continue to set new trends in the future rather than continue with pointless law suits that only lawyers gain from.
Come on Apple - you need to do better - your fanboyz are your greatest strength - do not be complacent.
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I use the current iMac model, and I absolutely love it. 21-inch screen, Core i5, SuperDrive, and (gasp) SNOW LEOPARD! It starts up every time, runs like a dream, and does absolutely everything I need it to.
That said, though the current iMac meets my needs, it may not meet yours. I'm a believer in making technology purchase decisions based on your needs. If the current iMac meets your needs, I say by all means get one. It's been almost a year since the last upgrade, but one advantage of this is that you can get a used one in excellent condition, and save a fair amount of money.
Oh, and I knew as soon as I saw the headline for this post, the reaction to the iMac news would range from "Oh noes, they're ignoring the iMac" to "Yay, down with outdated desktops".
I use the current iMac model, and I absolutely love it. 21-inch screen, Core i5, SuperDrive, and (gasp) SNOW LEOPARD! It starts up every time, runs like a dream, and does absolutely everything I need it to.
That said, though the current iMac meets my needs, it may not meet yours. I'm a believer in making technology purchase decisions based on your needs. If the current iMac meets your needs, I say by all means get one. It's been almost a year since the last upgrade, but one advantage of this is that you can get a used one in excellent condition, and save a fair amount of money.
Oh, and I knew as soon as I saw the headline for this post, the reaction to the iMac news would range from "Oh noes, they're ignoring the iMac" to "Yay, down with outdated desktops".
I suppose they could make the case nearly half the size. I use all 4 drive bays, but even that doesn't take up much room. The biggest card I have in my Pro is the 5870 card, and how tall is that...maybe 2 inches?
I wonder if the next IMac wil be a touch device that can be used in a conventional manner or fold down like a big iPad. Almost no bezel and black frame around a retina screen.
I bet they move to the same high speed ram and SSD with ivy bridge, multiple TB and USB 3 ports.
I bet they move to the same high speed ram and SSD with ivy bridge, multiple TB and USB 3 ports.
It's good to see Apple being upfront about it.
So, I guess we just need to wait.
Hopefully when they figure out ThunderBolt on the MacPro they can release a ACD Retina Display 30" +! NIce!
What???
The ONLY reason they are being "up front" about it is/was because of all the negative press they received yesterday along with consumer backlash.
Regardless, 2013 is WAY TOO LONG TO WAIT. There is no excuse for what happened yesterday.
That's «basically» correct, except for the minor detail that internal PCIe bus is x16 (PCIe 2.0) and TB is what? x4? x1? I forget, but it at best 25% of today's PCIe speed.
So basically it is no replacement for internal PCIe. That's just Apple PR speak.
2013 is a long way off even if you consider January.. which I highly doubt will happen. I don't think Pro's who are looking to buy want something totally out of the cards. Most want thunderbolt/USB 3.0, new graphic cards, and the new intel chip; nothing too-too crazy. Am I wrong?
I don't care what the hell the computer looks like, I want the fastest it can be.
I don't care what the hell the computer looks like, I want the fastest it can be.
I have no complaints with a 2013 redesign since I probably upgrade my 2010 Mac Pro in 2014. However, if the new design is really attractive, I may end up upgrading in 2013.
On the second thought, if people complain really loudly, is it possible for Apple to bring out another minor upgrade with the SB Xeon, Thunderbolt, SATA 3, and USB3.0 to the Mac Pro line?
On the second thought, if people complain really loudly, is it possible for Apple to bring out another minor upgrade with the SB Xeon, Thunderbolt, SATA 3, and USB3.0 to the Mac Pro line?
Delayed until the second half of 2013. Almost makes you wonder if Haswell-E will just become the next step.
That's good!
Deserves more than 3 up votes.Ok, here's my theory. Keep in mind that I have zero supporting evidence for this.
18 month(ish) ago, for whatever reasons, Apple decided they wouldn't make any new Mac Pros.
Now, they have decided to reverse this decision and make a Pro Mac again. This maybe due to management changes at the top of Apple. However, since they didn't do any engineering work on a Pro Mac for 18 months it's going to take a while get the wheels turning again - hence the delay in getting a new product out.
I had wondered that too.
"Our pro customers are really important to us...don't worry as we're working on something really great for later next year." - Tim
Hmm..that sounds awfully familiar:
"....Not to worry." -- Steve
Hmm..that sounds awfully familiar:
"....Not to worry." -- Steve