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Intel introduced Sandy Bridge in January 2011. Apple waited five months until June 2011 to move the iMac line to Sandy Bridge. Intel introduced Ivy Bridge in April 2012. It's still within that 5-month window. Plus, Apple has been known to update its iMac lineup late in the year, right before the holiday shopping season, such as in October 2009. Combined with the Apple PR clarification that that the "wait till 2013" applies to the Mac Pro and not iMac and I think we can expect Ivy Bridge iMacs in October 2012.
 
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Great news will chug along with my 2011 iMac and upgrade on new design, glad i bought in feb. See you in 2013.

Couldn't agree more. Going to enjoy my '11 iMac till then as well. Looks like 2013 will be the year to upgrade.
 
I find it astonishing that a technology company with income >$25bn and assets >$100bn is unable to at least upgrade its current desktop computer even to existing hardware specs - USB3 etc.
 
Well, there goes the sales for the rest of 2012. Someone at Apple should look up "The Osbourne Effect" on Wikipedia. Guess they had to announce something due to the backlash.

Businesses don't wait for the next model typically. If they need a new machine they buy one.
 
I find it astonishing that a technology company with income >$25bn and assets >$100bn is unable to at least upgrade its current desktop computer even to existing hardware specs - USB3 etc.
Hmmm... something not quite right here =[
 
A super thin iMac coming this fall I predict.

Yea, totally hoping for that. Seriously can't wait to see what Ives will have in store for us next year. :)

Edit: Oops, just read you think it will be Fall instead of 2013. Well, whenever it comes, just can't wait to see the new design.
 
It's good to see Apple being upfront about it.
So, I guess we just need to wait.
Hopefully when they figure out ThunderBolt on the MacPro they can release a ACD Retina Display 30" +! NIce! :D
 
I think somebody mentioned it earlier and i may be echoing but meh...

when you think about it, Apple will be releasing ML next month, so its possible, especially with the iMac that they may release an update to the specs then. I agree that there is no logical reason not to release a new spec machine this year since everything they would need to put in it is available. Im holding out for a new iMac over the next few months to replace my current one (2009 model). But if it doesn't happen i may even look into the whole hackintosh thing
 
Then Apple was un-Apple until early 2000's. These broadcast professionals weren't using Macs until that time because Apple never had decent hardware and software for that until then.

Really? I was using PowerMac towers in the mid-90's for AVID Media Composer and Digidesign Pro Tools systems. Let's see, before that was Affinity Stratosphere, Turbo Cubes...
 
Thanks and phunnie.

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Just Rocketman

Not all scientists bother with the latest and fastest apple & intel throw into the market, they have even clustered n number of PS3s as an alternative solution.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3_cluster

Quote: Dubbed as the "PS3 Gravity Grid", this PS3 cluster performs astrophysical simulations of large supermassive black holes capturing smaller compact objects. Khanna claims that the cluster's performance exceeds that of a 100+ Intel Xeon core based traditional Linux cluster on his simulations. The PS3 Gravity Grid gathered significant media attention through 2007,[11][12] 2008,[13][14] 2009[15][16][17] and 2010.[18][19] Khanna also created a DIY website[20] on how to build such clusters, accessible to the general public.

It's never lupus, so quit simulating
 
The new iMac would benefit from better thermal management, my iMac runs pretty hot sometimes. It seems like if there were better internal design it wouldn't need to work so hard to cool itself when it really needs to.
 
1. When has Apple ever come out in public about as of yet announced hardware? Software, all the time, for developers. But hardware? That makes very little sense, especially with Tim Cook's added push for secrecy.

2. If Apple is still committed to its Mac desktop line, why are they not introducing new models until NEXT YEAR? Skipping a year for the Mac Pro, they've done that before; it has never been this bad, but it has at least been done before. But with the Mac mini and iMac? I guess the Mac mini rev from 2007 stuck around for over a year, but not updating the iMac for over a year seems unprecedented.

3. How hard is it to maintain your current enclosures, design only marginally modified logic boards (modified enough to accommodate for a complete upgrade from Sandy to Ivy) and go forth? An Ivy Bridge Mac mini should be very easy to do at this point.

Don't get me wrong, I've always found Apple's desktops to be lacking in things that desktops should inherently have and thusly am not in that market, but as an Apple fan and follower, I fail to see what the hold-up is.

The simple answer could be that they have be unable to find a solution in order to package what they want to put into the new Mac Pro. The use of the new processors may include difficult cooling problems for example that produce unacceptable effects (e.g. cooling problems, loud fan noises etc) and therefore require a complicated reworking of the case. Most people on the forum are probably not aware of the problems of the PowerMac G5 (Wiki link) and it's own cooling problems., causing much embarrassment to the company at the time.

Wikipedia said:
Some 2.5GHz dual processor and all 2.7 dual processor and 2.5 Quads were cooled by a liquid cooling system (LCS) that consisted of a radiator, coolant pump, and heat exchangers that were bolted to the processors. The cooling system was made by Delphi, a former Harrison Radiator Division of General Motors. This was a bold step for Apple, and should have allowed the use of very fast processors, giving Apple an advantage in both the horsepower and reliability race, but the LCS turned out to be subject to coolant leakage. If not caught in time, the leakage can destroy the processors, logic board, and even corrode the aluminum casing itself. While leakage was sometimes detectable by drops of green coolant in or beneath the machine, in many machines the seepage is so slight that it was almost impossible to detect without dismantling the entire computer.
 
I find it astonishing that a technology company with income >$25bn and assets >$100bn is unable to at least upgrade its current desktop computer even to existing hardware specs - USB3 etc.

It's not that hard to believe. Apple as any other company has limited engineering resources. I can't imagine they have a permanent Mac Pro hardware engineer team assembled. A redesign of the workstation would take engineering resources away from other teams. They decided to prioritize other projects.

How much it would take to sort out some of the most glaring problems, such as USB3? I have no clue. But I assume they decided it wasn't worth it until other projects finished, and that's why we're looking at 2013. They aren't waiting for technology to come ripe, they are waiting for other Apple projects to finish.

..and they are likely to loose boatloads of professional users while it happens.
 
iMac

Like many, bummed out this update appears to not be happening for awhile. Aside from just spec upgrades, was really looking to a 512 gb SSD drive, and having ONLY that drive in the iMac. The "hybrid" of having a 256 gb SSD drive (which would not be large enough) and regular HD just seems to be asking for trouble.... But I guess am reconsidering (was also looking at OWC upgrade to 480 gb SSD, but seems like a major hassle, warranty issues, etc).

Anyone have good (or bad) experience with using hybrid SSD/HD drives on iMac? Even just thinking about using migration assistant to move everything (currently about 320 gb) seems like could cause problems with successful migration (going from 2010 MB Pro hooked up to 24" monitor, with way too many spinning balls for what I do).
 
Finally some iMac news, if we can call it that LOL

I'm not dropping $2k on an iMac at this stage without USB3 or Ivy Bridge CPUs, still hoping these will come with the next OS X ML in late summer. Personally I'd love a new design iMac but can live with the current one, if it have USB3!

BTW still no news on the Mac Mini?
 
I have a 2009 MP so I was planning to wait anyway. It will be interesting to see what they come up with. I can't imagine a better case design than what we have now though... hmm.
 
The simple answer could be that they have be unable to find a solution in order to package what they want to put into the new Mac Pro. The use of the new processors may include difficult cooling problems for example that produce unacceptable effects (e.g. cooling problems, loud fan noises etc) and therefore require a complicated reworking of the case. Most people on the forum are probably not aware of the problems of the PowerMac G5 (Wiki link) and it's own cooling problems., causing much embarrassment to the company at the time.

Sandy Bridge E uses a new socket; Socket 2011. Otherwise, it's not THAT different in terms of what could possibly be needed in terms of chassis modification. It also doesn't run THAT much hotter. I remember the liquid cooled Power Mac G5s. I needed to study the many failures that machine had to prepare for my Apple Certified Macintosh Technician certification. I don't think the same applies here.
 
A super thin iMac coming this fall I predict.
Convergence with ATV? :D

Not all scientists bother with the latest and fastest apple & intel throw into the market, they have even clustered n number of PS3s as an alternative solution.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3_cluster

Quote: Dubbed as the "PS3 Gravity Grid", this PS3 cluster performs astrophysical simulations
G4 continues to rock. Apple had x-grid which still runs on commodity G4 Macs and PCs. (and PS)

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The MagSafe 2 should be replaced by the new iPod 30 pin connector replacement as both thinner and FAR more capable (TB/PCI4/HDMI/USB3/POWER).

The headphone jack I believe is also the unmarked microphone jack. In a future world it will also be TB optical at 500 GB/s in the center of the 40 year old 1/8" audio jack. :D

Rocketman

Apple intends to make the audio jack last even longer than the Ethernet plug. :(
 
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